How does a ‘bystander’ have that information about his journey and intentions?He just wanted to see his son
He did that. For five minutes before he killed his son’s mother.
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I’ve just been reading the awful sentencing remarks and a few things stood out
1. they were living with her parents at the time he murdered Ollie
2. she had 3 other kids who she sent to live with their Dad and had no contact with for 5 months
and thirdly and most disgustingly,
3. They went on to have more children together!! as it took 7 years after the murder to be convicted. She stood by him despite knowing there was no other explanation than he had murdered their tiny son
link here but warning -a tough read
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Final-Sentence-for-Davis-and-Driver-Case-1.pdf
Justice for Emma. She's someone's daughter. She's someone.Ian Packer sentenced to 36 years for the murder of Emma caldwell today. Shame her dad isn't around to see justice served.
I've written to my MP about this. Men who view CSA frequently avoid jail altogether. This is incredibly dangerous behaviour which always has a victim and just suspending a sentence or giving them a community order is not going to make a damned bit of difference.Does anyone know the reasoning behind lenient treatment of these vile men who commit crimes against kids including sexual? I just don’t understand why they’re rarely ever properly punished. Commit a financial crime and you’re done for. It makes me sick to be honest. It’s no wonder so many of them continue to commit these disgusting crimes, why not when they barely get a slap on the wrist.
I would be really interested to see some proper research into the effects of exposure to pornography (especially hard-core porn) and subsequent sex offending.Has there always been so many of these evil bastards preying on children, or has the internet encouraged this behaviour? It seems like there's one every week in our regional paper caught either downloading images or contacting them via apps
I hear you. It is heartbreaking and sickening. She was so trapped in a place which should have been her little nest.I was reading about poor Shakira Spencer last night, I don't know why but these killings of vulnerable adults really make me so so upset. I was on her facebook and there was literally a trace of one of the killers befriending her by commenting on her photos and Shakira even posted something about "hate when something is so close but you can't touch it yet" and that killer commented "not long now hun" with a house emoji. She was obviously waiting in the wings for Shakira to get her house so she could take it from her and take all her disability allowanceShe was clearly jealous of Shakira because she was so beautiful and kind and trusting while this scumbag was the exact opposite. These kind of cases are way too common it just really hurts me that these people rely on other people's kindness to help them navigate life and dirty scumbags are waiting in the wings to take advantage.
I think a lot of it is down to the awful way the press seem to focus more on who they see as a ‘worthy victim’. They both are from middle class, professional families who are very articulate. Would there be so much attention for them if they were from a council estate?Nor me.
The main thing that really pisses me off about this case and the news coverage is the attention mainly being on Barnaby and Grace and their families whilst Ian Coates always seems to be an afterthought. Don't get me wrong, the whole thing is tragic and 2 youngsters cut down in their prime is heinous, but he was also a human being with a family and relatively young. Boils my piss and I find it very disrespectful tbh.
Yeah, I read that and thought that her story didn't make sense. If her friends saw someone put something into her drink, why on earth would she drink it?I don't know where to post my rant - I guess spiking is a crime so here I am
I read an article in DM that Kate McCann (fame-hungry broadcaster not the other one) was spiked in a club. Apparently her friends saw a man drop something into her drink, she drank it and reckons she was spiked.
What a load of guff - as if your friends would watch someone spike your drink and not do anything, and why would she then drink it? As Judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense it didn't happen.
Afaik, there is nothing you can put in a drink that can make someone compliant, no intra muscular injection that would do the job, and any hard core intra venous injection is impossible to do without someone knowing.
Every year or so this spiking story resurfaces and gets headlines - yet 2x women are killed every week on average, so if these papers and journos actually gave a shit about violence to women then why not address this instead of a load of dubious click bait titillation?
I can't believe it's been so long and the poor woman hasn't been found. Not a trace, like Suzy Lamplugh.![]()