Preston Davey Trial #4

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I’ve thought about poor Sara during this case too. There was definitely a sadist element there as well.

The stepmother got 33 years and the uncle 16 years for causing and allowing.
I think JV will get a similar sentence of 40 years and the evidence against JMF is more obvious than in Sara’s uncle case so it should be way more than 16 years.

Sara’s father has already had the tuna can lid treatment!
I saw that! Unfortunately it was a surface cut to his throat and wasn't even bad enough to warrant a trip to hospital...shame....
 
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I know that she wasn’t approved to have Preston in her care/overnight at first, because it was mentioned somewhere they were glad she was now approved coz they wanted a night out 🙄
And that night out was the same day he had his arm put in the cast following the ‘twizzle’ the night before 🙄

The elbow incident was 6th July

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But also he had said before this that Preston would be with him mum on Wednesdays - as early as May. So yet again completely disrespecting what they were told to do as new adoptive parents.

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And that night out was the same day he had his arm put in the cast following the ‘twizzle’ the night before 🙄

The elbow incident was 6th July

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But also he had said before this that Preston would be with him mum on Wednesdays - as early as May. So yet again completely disrespecting what they were told to do as new adoptive parents.

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He seemed quite keen to have her doing a lot of minding.
those final 3 weeks so many incidents happened.
The arm incident is so suspicious, and they were both there, they both say they saw it.
 
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Every day I think nothing else will surprise me, but the realisation that they literally couldn’t care for him for just one moment out of four months is just breaking me. Grabbing him from his foster mother to just abuse him then palm him off to JV’s mum 😭. Were they hoping to blame her for anything??! Disgusting guys.
 
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Someone made a great point here a few days ago that JV was maybe trying to secure the anti depressants so he could drug Preston. I wonder if that's what the prosecution were getting at because he never told JMF he was depressed, that would be the first person you'd tell. He never told him because he wasn't depressed, it was to drug the child potentially
I wondered if they used something like Phenergan or Piriton to make him sleepy and more compliant.
 
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He worked in a secondary school. I’m amazed that the teenagers he worked with are not all over social media talking about him.
I've seen a good few comment to say he was their teacher on Facebook and tiktok. One of them was asked on a Facebook group what he was like and he said just a totally normal teacher 🤯
 
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I've seen a good few comment to say he was their teacher on Facebook and tiktok. One of them was asked on a Facebook group what he was like and he said just a totally normal teacher 🤯
Oh really! Where do they post? He probably was ‘normal’ around teens- can’t manipulate them as much as a baby. Weirdo.
 
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Oh really! Where do they post? He probably was ‘normal’ around teens- can’t manipulate them as much as a baby. Weirdo.
There was one past pupil on that "Little angels child murder" Facebook group that was posted here, and I saw a handful on random tiktok videos.

Question.. are jurors free to identify themselves and talk about the case after sentencing? And if so, in general is this a common thing to happen? Did any Letby ones ever identify themselves for example?
 
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There was one past pupil on that "Little angels child murder" Facebook group that was posted here, and I saw a handful on random tiktok videos.

Question.. are jurors free to identify themselves and talk about the case after sentencing? And if so, in general is this a common thing to happen? Did any Letby ones ever identify themselves for example?
They can't talk about anything that happens in the jury room ever. So are limited as to what they could say. I'm not sure why someone would identify themselves that way because nutters.
 
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I'm sorry , but JVs mum must have had some kind of worry / suspicion or whatever. This child was relatively healthy prior to being placed with these two deviants. And in the space of a few months he visited hospital how many times? The seizures, the broken arm, her comment at the hospital. These things taken together are more than just 'new parents' getting things wrong or learning the ropes. Whilst I agree that JV was a narcissistic drama queen , she must have had this feeling at the back of her mind surely.
 
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I don't understand the big thing about his mum, she was lied to same as everyone else. She's no worse than any professional who didn't notice. IMO

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Who else was Preston with (other than JV) when he was spun cruelly at the park? Was his mum not there?
 
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It’s fine if other people believe she should have spotted all the signs and reported him, but I think hindsight is 20/20.
He also seems like the vindictive type who would stop her seeing him out of spite.
Oh my goodness yes in spades, he seems like he has to have it his way. And no matter what he does he can’t be challenged. I can just imagine him flipping out over the slightest thing and everyone around him tiptoeing about in case he throws one of his almighty hissy fits.
When the medics were trying to revive Preston at A&E I can just see JV running up and down the department, getting in every one’s way, even if they were dealing with other patients. They were dealing with other patients the department was full. The derangement of the look at me screeching like a banshee roadrunner crying, without tears. I’ve got camp friends who act dramatic, but not one of them have said they would act like ‘sweet fancy Nancy’ during the so called trying to save their child’s life. JV is such a fool!
 
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The hospital video was farcical …. No tears just really bad acting.
The only truthful thing this slug has ever said with regard to Preston was “ I’m going to hell “
Yes you are.
 
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The hospital video was farcical …. No tears just really bad acting.
The only truthful thing this slug has ever said with regard to Preston was “ I’m going to hell “
Yes you are.
I think even the devil might close the door on him.
Hope their arms don't get twizzled. Hope the guards don't leave them alone in the shower block to self soothe....
So, JV closing tomorrow, JMF closing Wednesday, judge stuff Thursday, out for deliberations Friday... Hopefully have a verdict mid next week?
 
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Oh my goodness yes in spades, he seems like he has to have it his way. And no matter what he does he can’t be challenged. I can just imagine him flipping out over the slightest thing and everyone around him tiptoeing about in case he throws one of his almighty hissy fits.
When the medics were trying to revive Preston at A&E I can just see JV running up and down the department, getting in every one’s way, even if they were dealing with other patients. They were dealing with other patients the department was full. The derangement of the look at me screeching like a banshee roadrunner crying, without tears. I’ve got camp friends who act dramatic, but not one of them have said they would act like ‘sweet fancy Nancy’ during the so called trying to save their child’s life. JV is such a fool!
He ran in the room after they called it I think the pod said, he was demanding they carry on or trying to do CPR bloody crank
 
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I think even the devil might close the door on him.
Hope their arms don't get twizzled. Hope the guards don't leave them alone in the shower block to self soothe....
So, JV closing tomorrow, JMF closing Wednesday, judge stuff Thursday, out for deliberations Friday... Hopefully have a verdict mid next week?
Just a little twizzle for him every day, he said himself he clicks. Have at him.
 
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I don't understand the big thing about his mum, she was lied to same as everyone else. She's no worse than any professional who didn't notice. IMO

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🙈 I think I kick started it about his mum today because I saw the summing up comments about the abnormalities and it made me so mad. People have said previously that she couldn’t have known or done anything because the injuries happened after she’d seen him on that last day but that just isn’t true now the prosecution have clarified the timeline a bit better. The injuries were already there. You’re right though, she is no worse than the professionals but then I think they’re all absolute rum too, every last one of them that let that little baby down. So they’re all fair game imo and I’m not sorry for digging her out today.
 
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DM article today has more of a description of the cot photo that I haven’t seen before:

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Not that anyone believed it before, but how could he have “fallen asleep” like that? The baby who could barely crawl, and was the worst sleeper the foster carer had ever had, somehow wedged himself between a soft toy, draped himself over the cot bars and fell asleep?
 
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DM article today has more of a description of the cot photo that I haven’t seen before:

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Not that anyone believed it before, but how could he have “fallen asleep” like that?
Haven’t read that part about the soft toy before. I find this particular event really hard to work out and now it’s that he’s being propped up by a soft toy. You just picture your own babies don’t you I can see mine standing in their cots using the cot bars for support after nap time happy to see me when I went in to get them. I can’t comprehend walking in to an unconscious bub turning blue and it being a big laugh and “oh what is he like!?” situation. Truth is they were thrilled to see him like that because it’s what they’d done to him in the first place. I guess that kind of answers how he was fixed in place though 😪
 
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