Peaches Geldof

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I think the media articles show how clever Peaches was at getting in first where she could have been exposed. Doesn’t breastfeed & potential eating disorder? Thyroid issue. Kids in hospital for a few days after birth for opiate detox? Traumatic birth.
 
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I think the media articles show how clever Peaches was at getting in first where she could have been exposed. Doesn’t breastfeed & potential eating disorder? Thyroid issue. Kids in hospital for a few days after birth for opiate detox? Traumatic birth.
Addicts get very good at this sort of thing.
 
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Yes, codeine is too accessible. I have taken it for pain but usually steer clear as I have migraines and it can lead to secondary headaches, but I must say I've never noticed a buzz or high. The addiction must come from the bodies dependency rather than a high.
 
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personally I was in an out of the private system for pregnancy and I don’t think you could “hide”
Unless you were colluding with a dodgy private supplier to do so (have no idea if these exist)

Yes, codeine is too accessible. I have taken it for pain but usually steer clear as I have migraines and it can lead to secondary headaches, but I must say I've never noticed a buzz or high. The addiction must come from the bodies dependency rather than a high.
It’s also the absence of pain- if you are used to the painkillers easing your chronic pain it’s very hard to decide you want to come off them and experience pain instead if you know what I mean?
 
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personally I was in an out of the private system for pregnancy and I don’t think you could “hide”
Unless you were colluding with a dodgy private supplier to do so (have no idea if these exist)


It’s also the absence of pain- if you are used to the painkillers easing your chronic pain it’s very hard to decide you want to come off them and experience pain instead if you know what I mean?
Interesting - did you have to disclose past use like on the NHS? I know it's easy to tick the no box but when I did my midwifery training it was in a small enough area where people talked. We used to get a load of gossip off of the health visitors.
 
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Oh yes sorry I was thinking of “legitimate” users- people who were prescribed it many years ago for their anxiety and are now obviously addicted and their mental health is so affected by the addiction they’ll never come off it. Cheaper and easier to keep prescribing, every GP surgery has these patients and there is no point trying to do anything else with them.
I volunteer in the welfare tent at festivals in the summer. The amount of young people using like likes of diazepam and Xanax is absolutely diabolical. Mixing it with alcohol, mdma and all sorts not even realising what they are doing to themselves. Coming in absolutely out of it, found on the ground by a stranger, had shat themselves, some people spiked with it. Then we had the safeguarding issues with our company and the festivals it’s self on how to deal with 16yr olds in this state without being able to get hold of anybody parents / next of kin and the festival rules stating they cannot leave the welfare tent without a person over 18 but the festival allowing 16yr olds in without a parent. Absolute madness. It’s a hell of a drug.

God only knows what happened to peaches and her methadone program. I know if it was anybody else they would have the social all over them. If all this was known to services they would have a duty of care to protect her and her children, or at least make sure a plan was in place to support her to keep the children safe with help from family or friends, which obviously didn’t happen in this case.
 
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Interesting - did you have to disclose past use like on the NHS? I know it's easy to tick the no box but when I did my midwifery training it was in a small enough area where people talked. We used to get a load of gossip off of the health visitors.
yes but you could lie the same way you could in the nhs. They always asked for access to medical records and sent test results/ scans etc to my GP (who seemed most put out by them tbh 😂)

I guess someone like Peaches potentially used private for some things, the NHs for others and maybe had quite an erratic medical history including treatments abroad etc.
 
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personally I was in an out of the private system for pregnancy and I don’t think you could “hide”
Unless you were colluding with a dodgy private supplier to do so (have no idea if these exist)


It’s also the absence of pain- if you are used to the painkillers easing your chronic pain it’s very hard to decide you want to come off them and experience pain instead if you know what I mean?
Yes I do, pain is frightening, I can see why people would want to avoid it.
I'm thinking of the people my friend told me about and how they ended up taking codeine habitually, how does that even start, they can't all be experiencing chronic pain, surely. It sounds like its an epidemic.
 
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Yes, codeine is too accessible. I have taken it for pain but usually steer clear as I have migraines and it can lead to secondary headaches, but I must say I've never noticed a buzz or high. The addiction must come from the bodies dependency rather than a high.
I do buy cocodamol on occasion for migraines and period pain. I am so careful with it and would never use it more than 2 days in a row, I’m quite susceptible to “psychological” addiction anyway and I know the physical element of codeine would be awful.

I was once given codeine phosphate at 14 by a family friend who was trying to help me, I had horrible period pains. I took it and went straight to bed at 4pm, didn’t wake up until the next morning. Scared the hell out of me! It was strong stuff.
 
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Haha this was superb. I think seeing this was what made me change my mind about Peaches having found her very irritating as a know it all teen. She came across very intelligent and articulate. Obviously she wasn’t a perfect person but I don’t think you can fault her desire to be better.
Does anyone else watch this now and think Katie and Peaches are sat waaaaay too close to each other? Katie is practically sat on her knee, I don’t know if I’m traumatised by lockdown or something but it really looks odd now!


It obviously doesn’t work like any other though as presuming that Peaches was EBF she got pregnant within a month of having her first son (she says in the video one was 7 months and one was 17 months). I’m dubious about any professional saying that breastfeeding is a *reliable* form of contraception - yes it reduces fertility but no doctor I know would advise to bin the pills or coil and rely on that (I’m a doctor too!)
I bet peaches wasn’t ebf though, especially if she was doing drugs, or considering doing drugs, she was probably supplementing with formula or pumping for someone else to do night feeds, which might have given her body a long enough break from bf to kickstart her cycles again

when I had my daughter in 2019 I was given an nhs printout about exclusive bf being 99% reliable as contraception for the first 6 months as long as your periods have not come back, I’ll see if I can find it and post a pic, and it is absolutely correct, I’m still bf my daughter now at the age of 2 and my periods didn’t not come back until 13 months post partum, which is around the average for mothers who continue to bf past 6 months, this is mother nature’s way of stopping a woman from having pregnancies too close together - look at the information on la leche league website, the association of breastfeeding mothers website , the nhs website under breastfeeding and contraception

it is unusual for an ebf mother to be able to get pregnant again so quickly after birth, so my guess is that she was not ebf, or maybe she was pumping was a nanny or Thomas to do night feeds or something
 
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This has opened up some really interesting conversations about attachment parenting and drug addiction. Name a drug and I know someone who was addicted to it and it probably started because of another drug, whether that was alcohol or hash or whatever. I myself am a valium addict. I stopped taking all other drugs apart from alcohol and benzos in 2010 and I still drink on social occasions (so not at all in the last year really) but I was taking valium ever single day up until 3 years ago. A friend thought I was a secret alcoholic because I was always slurring and even nodding off in normal situations and he came to my flat one day to look for empty bottles. When I convinced him I wasn't an alcoholic he was adamant i go to the doctor in case there was something wrong with my health so I had to tell him. He'd been down a similar road so he swooped in pretty swiftly. I started taking it in 2004 because it helped me come down after nights on K and MDMA and all the rest. Then I was taking it to cope with next-day anxiety after nights out. I thought everyone took valium to get through the day, honestly. I thought it was normal. I used to take it in the morning with my B12 drops and vitamin D tablets. I was treated with anti-convulsants, therapy and I did the 12 steps. It took months for me to accept I was an addict because it was medicine for my anxiety to me and it was, like codeine, accepted that people would take it every day. I thought it didn't affect my life but looking back I'd lose weekends to it, I felt Ill all the time, I lost a big contract in work because I made a big blunder forgetting something important, my memory was pure rit. I missed a week of work once because I couldn't get my hands on any and I thought I was dying..i locked myself in thr flat for 6 days until i asked a neighbour for two pills saying I kept having panic attacks. I forgot the name of one of my bests mates girlfriends so often she thought I was just being a witch and that caused issues . Quitting my job in PR and setting up a very different business helped as well I think. I mean the drugs I took- everything excluding crack and heroine and this pill they give you at the doctor's a little too easily could have ruined my life. Thanks to OP for starting it and to everyone who has shared their experiences.
Please do not try and come off it on your own. It’s the one drug (that and alcohol) that can kill you withdrawing from it. The physical withdrawal symptoms are really dangerous. When you chose to come off it, do it with medical guidance. There is a lot of help out there and these professionals will not judge you. Take all the support, groups, meetings you can get. I wish you all the best and remember once you do it and come off it, you’ll never have to do it again. It is hard to come off it but it’s hard being on it too. You are worth it and deserve a good life free from addiction ❤
 
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These deadbeat dads are always the same. Adele's dad moaning on because she wont forgive him. I wonder how much 'forgiveness' he would have wanted if she worked in Sainsburys? None, I bet.

See also: Russell Brand's dad who actually latched on to Amy Winehouse for a time despite some of his friends and presumably Russell himself warning her against him. Dying to get his face in the daily mail.
 
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Valium is beautiful for anxiety. I must admit I have invented a few 'work trips' and my hatred of flying to get my hands on some. They usually only prescribe a maximum of 5 a time and that's a full price prescription but it calms me right down. Haven't taken it for years, mind.
 
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I think the media articles show how clever Peaches was at getting in first where she could have been exposed. Doesn’t breastfeed & potential eating disorder? Thyroid issue. Kids in hospital for a few days after birth for opiate detox? Traumatic birth.
Definitely. She mentioned in one of the interviews linked upthread that Astala had breathing difficulties at birth because his lungs lacked surfactant - but that happens with premature babies, not 7lb babies born at full term. But it wouldn’t surprise me if babies born addicted to opiates suffered from respiratory issues...
 
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I think the media articles show how clever Peaches was at getting in first where she could have been exposed. Doesn’t breastfeed & potential eating disorder? Thyroid issue. Kids in hospital for a few days after birth for opiate detox? Traumatic birth.
I have thyroid issues, am on levothyroxine and I’m lucky to have an amazing consultant. He’s always asking me to tell him when I want to start trying for a baby as not having enough levothyroxine in my body is actually damaging for a foetus (higher % of babies born with developmental issues and physical disabilities), so your drugs normally get upped and its safe to breastfeed with those higher levels in your body (as they are just synthetic hormones replacing what should be there). Anyway long story short, she most likely didn’t have the same issues as me, but if she had hyperthyroidism the common medicine is PTU or Tapazole, both of which are safe to breastfeed on.

tldr - thyroid issues are common and the medicine is safe to use so looking back to Peaches that comment is a red flag!
 
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Please do not try and come off it on your own. It’s the one drug (that and alcohol) that can kill you withdrawing from it. The physical withdrawal symptoms are really dangerous. When you chose to come off it, do it with medical guidance. There is a lot of help out there and these professionals will not judge you. Take all the support, groups, meetings you can get. I wish you all the best and remember once you do it and come off it, you’ll never have to do it again. It is hard to come off it but it’s hard being on it too. You are worth it and deserve a good life free from addiction ❤
Thank you x I got inpatient treatment two and a half years ago thanks to a very brilliant friend of mine. but it's still a hard battle for me every day still. Especially nowadays, living alone with all of this going on, so I'm back doing meetings via the dreaded zoom.
 
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Yes, codeine is too accessible. I have taken it for pain but usually steer clear as I have migraines and it can lead to secondary headaches, but I must say I've never noticed a buzz or high. The addiction must come from the bodies dependency rather than a high.
You can feel high on the stronger ones from the Drs the 30mg ones. I had some during the summer and felt really woozy after having a few.
 
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You can feel high on the stronger ones from the Drs the 30mg ones. I had some during the summer and felt really woozy after having a few.
After surgery I was given something strong and had a prescription for same when I went home, I felt like I had a heavy hand pressing on my forehead and I would drift off. It was very comforting, I do wonder if its a similar sensation.
Edit, long tech/tek and short tech/tell not sure how to spell them.
 
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Please do not try and come off it on your own. It’s the one drug (that and alcohol) that can kill you withdrawing from it. The physical withdrawal symptoms are really dangerous. When you chose to come off it, do it with medical guidance. There is a lot of help out there and these professionals will not judge you. Take all the support, groups, meetings you can get. I wish you all the best and remember once you do it and come off it, you’ll never have to do it again. It is hard to come off it but it’s hard being on it too. You are worth it and deserve a good life free from addiction ❤
Well said - thank you.
 
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Of course they did. Do you think children have no rights? Thomas would, as a legal guardian, have every right to protect his child from coming to harm by being in the care of someone under the influence of drugs. He would be acting in the best interests of the child, and as such be protected by law.

Besides, do you really think she would have called the police if Thomas said no to dropping the baby off? That sounds a bit dramatic, esp considering that she was in an active drug treatment programme and had a house full of gear. The police wouldn't have done anything.
See also: Russell Brand's dad who actually latched on to Amy Winehouse for a time despite some of his friends and presumably Russell himself warning her against him. Dying to get his face in the daily mail.
Good grief what an old letch, you can see where Russell gets it from!
 
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