Peaches Geldof

[MonkeyTennis]

Don't know if this has been put up here already but here is Paula interviewing Gary Glitter, long before the general public knew what a revolting human he was.
She asks him a very specific question, watch from 58 seconds in, which makes me think it was known in showbiz circles at the time that he was into kids.

 

[Raininvain]

Don't know if this has been put up here already but here is Paula interviewing Gary Glitter, long before the general public knew what a revolting human he was.
She asks him a very specific question, watch from 58 seconds in, which makes me think it was known in showbiz circles at the time that he was into kids.

Revolting Individual. Is he still in prison?

 

[heatmagazine]

I'm not sure if you know what it's like to have someone die that is under your care. It's a pretty big deal and no one wants that on their record but of course, it is unavoidable. It is highly unlikely that a massive heart attack could be predicted whereas it was very likely that she was going to overdose and that could be predicted. A baby under 1 left alone for 17 hours could have easily, easily come to harm. And the question would be - why was a vulnerable baby left alone with a mother who had a drug problem and was in danger of overdosing? I'm not saying the agencies are to blame here but her husband and his family have to take some of the blame which is why there seem to be gaps in this story. I stand by what I've said all along, she should never have been alone with the children.

There are 100s and 100s of single mothers on methadone that get on just fine. They are just using it to stop them becoming unwell, wean off very slowly and to stop the risk of them relapsing. I know of mother’s that were using heroin and had their child taken off them but with help from a methadone program they get their children back. These programs are closely monitored and will be involved in other services.

 

[Clairer86]

The last time I was on a methadone program was around 10 years ago. It was back in the days where they would increase you up to 180ml of methadone so when you were kicked off the program you used even more gear than before you went on it I was also on a benzo reduction program. I’m surprised I’m not dead with that concoction. For peaches to get down to 9mls and work and look after children is amazing. I couldn’t do it. I am confused how they found a bottle with 20mls in it though. When I would get my bottles each bottle would have the exact amount I was prescribed.

I have just edited my other post and said sorry to you if i offended you. I didnt mean to at all, i should have been clearer myself in saying thats how it works where i live
You are correct, her going down to 9ml is bleeping amazing. Im on 30ml and this is my stable amount. Mine also have the exact amount in so perhaps she was buying it.
Btw you have done amazing as well. Its such a horrible thing and sometimes it feels like we are the only people in the world to be addicts and its so lonely, so its quite nice to be able to talk so openly on here.

 

[lalalanded]

There are 100s and 100s of single mothers on methadone that get on just fine. They are just using it to stop them becoming unwell, wean off very slowly and to stop the risk of them relapsing. I know of mother’s that were using heroin and had their child taken off them but with help from a methadone program they get their children back. These programs are closely monitored and will be involved in other services.

She wasn't on the methadone programme, she had relapsed. She had failed several drug tests so it's not accurate to say she was adhering to treatment. She should not have been in sole charge of her children alone.

 

[Phil Anne Throw Pee]

Mitch Winehouse is a parasite and deserves nothing but derision. I have lots of sympathy for Bob.

 

[heatmagazine]

She wasn't on the methadone programme, she had relapsed. She had failed several drug tests so it's not accurate to say she was adhering to treatment. She should not have been in sole charge of her children alone.

Any other fucker and the social would be right in there

 

[liar liar]

Revolting Individual. Is he still in prison?

Yes he is - peeps are fuming as he has been given the Covid jab. They should have removed his genitals.

 

[Lifeofeden]

A friend of mine ended up addicted to codeine, initially borrowing their parents as a teen and then getting it prescribed under false pretences, buying cough medicine off the internet etc. Really opened my eyes to how dangerous prescription opiates can be, they lost their marriage and imperilled their whole career. We had no idea until it all came out, we knew them about a decade before we realise and their long term partner had not known for years either. Once we knew a lot of wierd stuff about this person suddenly made sense (behaviour wise)

Codiene is a horrible nasty drug, people don't realise the danger and the real crisis this country is in with it and other opiates

 

[Eltonjohnsflorist]

I'm not sure if you know what it's like to have someone die that is under your care. It's a pretty big deal and no one wants that on their record but of course, it is unavoidable. It is highly unlikely that a massive heart attack could be predicted whereas it was very likely that she was going to overdose and that could be predicted. A baby under 1 left alone for 17 hours could have easily, easily come to harm. And the question would be - why was a vulnerable baby left alone with a mother who had a drug problem and was in danger of overdosing? I'm not saying the agencies are to blame here but her husband and his family have to take some of the blame which is why there seem to be gaps in this story. I stand by what I've said all along, she should never have been alone with the children.

I do know what you’re saying but the point was no one was found to be at fault, as far as we are aware. Those agencies and the inquest would’ve investigated this and there is no “things that should’ve happened differently” I think we just find it hard to accept that these things are complex and can’t always be prevented. It’s not always someone’s fault- it’s just life. It’s not black and white

 

[Raininvain]

Codiene is a horrible nasty drug, people don't realise the danger and the real crisis this country is in with it and other opiates

True, there's a lot of abuse of prescription medication and a lot of theft of diamorphine etc in the NHS. One of my friends boyfriends years ago got kicked off his medicine course for thieving opiates from the NHS.

 

[BigMavis]

Yip, it would appear that half the country is addicted to codeine, I was talking to a friend who works between two pharmacy's and they see the same people buying or attempting to buy boxes of the stuff every couple of days, and very little they can do about it, apart from warning it shouldn't be used for more than three days.
What way does methadone effect a person, do users experience a high or is it to counteract withdrawal?

 

[liar liar]

I do know what you’re saying but the point was no one was found to be at fault, as far as we are aware. Those agencies and the inquest would’ve investigated this and there is no “things that should’ve happened differently” I think we just find it hard to accept that these things are complex and can’t always be prevented. It’s not always someone’s fault- it’s just life. It’s not black and white

We are very lucky in this country to have a Coroner's system that is open to public scrutiny.

 

[lalalanded]

I do know what you’re saying but the point was no one was found to be at fault, as far as we are aware. Those agencies and the inquest would’ve investigated this and there is no “things that should’ve happened differently” I think we just find it hard to accept that these things are complex and can’t always be prevented. It’s not always someone’s fault- it’s just life. It’s not black and white

I don't think you've ever worked for the NHS? It's a blame culture and it's usually the junior members of the team that get thrown under the bus although everyone gets stabbed in the back. There was no way that this wasn't dealt with internally - a vulnerable mother died in sole charge of a baby. Someone's knuckles were rapped over this, trust me.

ETA - Tom's family would not have come out well of any internal enquiry. My guess is that no one would have lost their job over this as the Cohen's most likely did not follow the advice they had been given and were probably found to be at fault.

 

[liar liar]

Yip, it would appear that half the country is addicted to codeine, I was talking to a friend who works between two pharmacy's and they see the same people buying or attempting to buy boxes of the stuff every couple of days, and very little they can do about it, apart from warning it shouldn't be used for more than three days.
What way does methadone effect a person, do users experience a high or is it to counteract withdrawal?

'ello Mrs - it reduces withdrawl symptoms

 

[Persephonehasreturned]

Codiene is a horrible nasty drug, people don't realise the danger and the real crisis this country is in with it and other opiates

My first experience of this as a concept was my ex husbands mother. When she was in a hospice dying, they couldn’t understand why the morphine (diamorphine?) wasn’t working until it was a level that would kill a person or two.

Turns out she’d been a codeine addict for 30 years and had an off the charts tolerance to opiates. After she died, the sheer number of boxes of codeine in her house when we cleared it was a sight to behold.

 

[tawdryhepburn]

damn! this thread has made me realise my mother probably had a painkiller issue too when i was growing up

 

[lalalanded]

My first experience of this as a concept was my ex husbands mother. When she was in a hospice dying, they couldn’t understand why the morphine (diamorphine?) wasn’t working until it was a level that would kill a person or two.

Turns out she’d been a codeine addict for 30 years and had an off the charts tolerance to opiates. After she died, the sheer number of boxes of codeine in her house when we cleared it was a sight to behold.

That's bloody shocking.

 

[Topaz]

Don't know if this has been put up here already but here is Paula interviewing Gary Glitter, long before the general public knew what a revolting human he was.
She asks him a very specific question, watch from 58 seconds in, which makes me think it was known in showbiz circles at the time that he was into kids.

There was a This Is Your Life I think around that time as well, where someone made some sort of allusion to GG liking them young or something and he acted all coy and jokey. So hideous, just like He Who Shall Not Be Named*, they were so arrogant about getting away with it and hiding in plain sight.


*Just finished series 3 of Line of Duty which mentions Yewtree a lot, it's got me all fired up!

 

[Clairer86]

'ello Mrs - it reduces withdrawl symptoms

To be honest ive always been a bit confused about methadone- i didnt understand if it was just legal heroin, or a painkiller etc. My drugs worker told me Methadone saturates all your receptors in your brain and if users take heroin or other opiates on top of the methadone then they dont have the same effect (ie) you dont get as high.

I dont really feel anything on my methadone tbh, i certainly dont feel high. But it stops the opiate cravings and i dont feel as though im withdrawing. I remember when i used to mess about with my methadone prescription and i used to take 2 bottles instead of 1 and sometimes that used to make me feel a slight high but absolutely nothing like the way heroin or other opiates made me feel.

Some users who i knew refused to touch methadone, i think due to the effect heroin would then have on them. And also some users (including me probably) are simply swapping one addiction to another, because it is also addictive and some people use methadone as their drug of choice.