That's just so sad. This whole thread has had me thinking about the whole family the last few days. I hope they all find some peace.
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The police report is interesting. Sounds like all the methadone bottles were prescribed and all but one were empty. Not sure why she would keep them - do they need to be returned to the pharmacy for safe disposal?
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“Details of the recent prescription were provided to the police and the data indicates the current prescription period started in October 2013 and continued until 3rd April 2014. The amount prescribed started at 40mls daily and gradually reduces down to 9mls. Twenty seven methadone bottles were recovered from around the family home, only one of the bottles contained any liquid and this was dated January 2014 and was listed as 20mls.
The quantities of bottles found and the dose levels shown corresponded to the prescription data obtained from medical records.
The drug treatment providers stated that Peaches reported struggling with the levels of methadone in March 2014 and was offered additional support to help with her difficulties with sleeping.”
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“Details of the recent prescription were provided to the police and the data indicates the current prescription period started in October 2013 and continued until 3rd April 2014. The amount prescribed started at 40mls daily and gradually reduces down to 9mls. Twenty seven methadone bottles were recovered from around the family home, only one of the bottles contained any liquid and this was dated January 2014 and was listed as 20mls.
The quantities of bottles found and the dose levels shown corresponded to the prescription data obtained from medical records.
The drug treatment providers stated that Peaches reported struggling with the levels of methadone in March 2014 and was offered additional support to help with her difficulties with sleeping.”
At 9mls per day she would be really struggling and would be feeling quite unwell. Cold, tired, restless, unable to sleep, snivelly, a bit flu like. When you get. down to 30mls and under it’s when you can feel it being weaned off, when under 10mls it’s
. Nah you can just throw empty bottles away like you do other medication bottles.I remember the press saying they had he name on speed dial if they wanted stories or pap shots of Amy.
It says on the link 2012 pictures or something so it’s the people they bought from interiors
Do you mean whilst she was returning from buying them? Or that the police would want to arrest her because they know she’s an addict? Possession of drugs isn’t really a crime the police proactively go and arrest people for for the sake of it- obviously we’d much rather they concentrate on the dealers than arresting addicts just because they can- addicts are the low hanging fruits aren’t they?
as another poster said they can’t come into her private property and search it and in terms of being stopped randomly in the street, being a young white woman she’s not really the police’s target market for stop and search
It's a gossip forum!
If she had been in the methadone programme for 2.5 years, as per the report, she would have been on methadone throughout both pregnancies with her boys, who were 11 and 23 months at the time of her death.
Someone mentioned earlier that a baby born to a mother who has been using methadone is born addicted, and as such, has to stay in hospital while he/she withdraws from the drug. Seeing as both boys must have been born addicted, as Peaches was in a methadone programme that she commenced during the pregnancy of the eldest child, surely there must have been a multidisciplinary team supporting the family? They can't just have been discharged from hospital to fend for themselves?
Also, seeing as she started the methadone programme 6 months before Astala was born, that must mean that he was conceived while she was an active heroin user?
Someone mentioned earlier that a baby born to a mother who has been using methadone is born addicted, and as such, has to stay in hospital while he/she withdraws from the drug. Seeing as both boys must have been born addicted, as Peaches was in a methadone programme that she commenced during the pregnancy of the eldest child, surely there must have been a multidisciplinary team supporting the family? They can't just have been discharged from hospital to fend for themselves?
Also, seeing as she started the methadone programme 6 months before Astala was born, that must mean that he was conceived while she was an active heroin user?
So sad reading this thread. I was reading Lily Allen's autobiography and she mentions briefly Amy and Peaches. She's the only one of the 3 alive now which is quite stark. Sounds like both Lily and Peaches wanted the dream life in the country with children but neither of them seemed to find what they needed.
“They tried to make me go to Rehab
But I said no, no, no
Yes I've been black but when I come back
You'll know, know, know
I ain't got the time
And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
Just try to make me go to Rehab
Says it all really. I remember watching the Amy film and feeling desperately sorry for her. She was just a mealticket to everyone around her.
I remember Mitch Winehouse appearing with Amy on the Robert Elms BBC Radio London programme at the start of her career. He later appeared regularly on the programme after Amy’s death to talk about her AND his own singing career. 
The bit in the timeline about her watching True Detective and searching for the Dog Whisperer is so mundane and sad. I wonder what the phone call to her friend was about, I wonder if she told them what she was intending to do.
She gave birth in a private hospital so don’t know if it might have been different there?
It doesn't matter where you go in the world, if you're poor or destitute and on drugs well, you have failed at life and bring the property values down; you're a scourge on the community. Middle class, wealthy high flyers who are highly functional on drugs, they are almost rewarded for being addicts. Hey, as long as it doesn't affect your work, no one cares what you do on your own time. It's sickening.
Bob Geldof can choke on a fool as far as I am concerned. Should he have ever been a parent? Who knows, but by all accounts he was a hands-off parent. Didn't the kids live in a different part of the house, whilst he and his gf were in another? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
Clairer86 I can't even begin to imagine the horrendous journey you have been through. Yes, you are lucky to have a good support system, but that is half the battle. I wish you all the best health in the future.
This topic pisses me off. Physicians and nurses have been known to get addicted to that stuff. I have read articles whereby they said they knew the addiction factor was quite high, but being in the medical profession, they thought they were too smart to get addicted. I'm talking about OxyContin/Oxycodone. This drug was originally just a palliative care drug, so it was for people who were on their way out anyway. I will try to give your the Reader's Digest version: There was a move towards the idea of using these palliative care drugs in non-palliative situations, as there was a demand from chronic pain patients for better modalities. Along comes Perdue Pharma with a marketing blitz for OxyContin. Their marketing campaign was from 1996-2001, with 40 pain management conferences for physicians, pharmacists and nurses; all expenses paid. Then 5000 of them were trained to Perdue's national speakers bureau. Perdue took marketing data to narrow their push to market to physicians in the US who prescribed the most narcotics, ergo most likely chronic pain suffering patients. Of course, this also meant that a good portion of these physicians were not very careful as to who and how many pills they prescribed. Now add in sales reps who would get bonuses for plugging this drug (avg. salary $55,000 + bonus avg $75,000, 2001 Perdue paid $40 million in bonuses.) Perdue had a paitient coupon starter programme, more incentive. By 2003, more than half of the doctors prescribing Oxy were not pain specialists, but GPs, so everyone and their grandmother with a crick in their neck could get a hold of it. Perdue misrepresented their addiction data. They were finding people who had never been addicted in their lives (iatrogenic addiction) hooked on this crap. Of course, when these people were cut off from the Oxy, the next best thing was heroin. Perdue essentially created a generation of drug addicts and that is why they are being sued into oblivion, capitalist people.
Nothing like profiting off a tragedy of your own making. What a parasite.
Everything you have said is so right. My old career was actually in social services and i was a child protection social worker so i too had previously worked with families who were addicts- this was around the time i was legitimately using codeine, and at that time in my life if someone had said that 5 years later i would be injecting heroin i would have laughed at them! My own drugs worker told me once about she also helps a nurse who is on methadone due to taking oxy.It doesn't matter where you go in the world, if you're poor or destitute and on drugs well, you have failed at life and bring the property values down; you're a scourge on the community. Middle class, wealthy high flyers who are highly functional on drugs, they are almost rewarded for being addicts. Hey, as long as it doesn't affect your work, no one cares what you do on your own time. It's sickening.
Bob Geldof can choke on a fool as far as I am concerned. Should he have ever been a parent? Who knows, but by all accounts he was a hands-off parent. Didn't the kids live in a different part of the house, whilst he and his gf were in another? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
Clairer86 I can't even begin to imagine the horrendous journey you have been through. Yes, you are lucky to have a good support system, but that is half the battle. I wish you all the best health in the future.
This topic pisses me off. Physicians and nurses have been known to get addicted to that stuff. I have read articles whereby they said they knew the addiction factor was quite high, but being in the medical profession, they thought they were too smart to get addicted. I'm talking about OxyContin/Oxycodone. This drug was originally just a palliative care drug, so it was for people who were on their way out anyway. I will try to give your the Reader's Digest version: There was a move towards the idea of using these palliative care drugs in non-palliative situations, as there was a demand from chronic pain patients for better modalities. Along comes Perdue Pharma with a marketing blitz for OxyContin. Their marketing campaign was from 1996-2001, with 40 pain management conferences for physicians, pharmacists and nurses; all expenses paid. Then 5000 of them were trained to Perdue's national speakers bureau. Perdue took marketing data to narrow their push to market to physicians in the US who prescribed the most narcotics, ergo most likely chronic pain suffering patients. Of course, this also meant that a good portion of these physicians were not very careful as to who and how many pills they prescribed. Now add in sales reps who would get bonuses for plugging this drug (avg. salary $55,000 + bonus avg $75,000, 2001 Perdue paid $40 million in bonuses.) Perdue had a paitient coupon starter programme, more incentive. By 2003, more than half of the doctors prescribing Oxy were not pain specialists, but GPs, so everyone and their grandmother with a crick in their neck could get a hold of it. Perdue misrepresented their addiction data. They were finding people who had never been addicted in their lives (iatrogenic addiction) hooked on this crap. Of course, when these people were cut off from the Oxy, the next best thing was heroin. Perdue essentially created a generation of drug addicts and that is why they are being sued into oblivion, capitalist people.
Nothing like profiting off a tragedy of your own making. What a parasite.
God it makes me so angry what these drug companies do to regular people! In America it seems much worse with the prescription pain meds and they advertise their meds etc on prime time tv like ‘ask your dr about this drug’! I once had to give an infusion to a child, it was bought from America, very specific for their condition and one bag cost 13k!! Bone marrow transplants alone costs the NHS 250k but if there’s complications it doubles/triples! Thank god for the country we live in!It doesn't matter where you go in the world, if you're poor or destitute and on drugs well, you have failed at life and bring the property values down; you're a scourge on the community. Middle class, wealthy high flyers who are highly functional on drugs, they are almost rewarded for being addicts. Hey, as long as it doesn't affect your work, no one cares what you do on your own time. It's sickening.
Bob Geldof can choke on a fool as far as I am concerned. Should he have ever been a parent? Who knows, but by all accounts he was a hands-off parent. Didn't the kids live in a different part of the house, whilst he and his gf were in another? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
Clairer86 I can't even begin to imagine the horrendous journey you have been through. Yes, you are lucky to have a good support system, but that is half the battle. I wish you all the best health in the future.
This topic pisses me off. Physicians and nurses have been known to get addicted to that stuff. I have read articles whereby they said they knew the addiction factor was quite high, but being in the medical profession, they thought they were too smart to get addicted. I'm talking about OxyContin/Oxycodone. This drug was originally just a palliative care drug, so it was for people who were on their way out anyway. I will try to give your the Reader's Digest version: There was a move towards the idea of using these palliative care drugs in non-palliative situations, as there was a demand from chronic pain patients for better modalities. Along comes Perdue Pharma with a marketing blitz for OxyContin. Their marketing campaign was from 1996-2001, with 40 pain management conferences for physicians, pharmacists and nurses; all expenses paid. Then 5000 of them were trained to Perdue's national speakers bureau. Perdue took marketing data to narrow their push to market to physicians in the US who prescribed the most narcotics, ergo most likely chronic pain suffering patients. Of course, this also meant that a good portion of these physicians were not very careful as to who and how many pills they prescribed. Now add in sales reps who would get bonuses for plugging this drug (avg. salary $55,000 + bonus avg $75,000, 2001 Perdue paid $40 million in bonuses.) Perdue had a paitient coupon starter programme, more incentive. By 2003, more than half of the doctors prescribing Oxy were not pain specialists, but GPs, so everyone and their grandmother with a crick in their neck could get a hold of it. Perdue misrepresented their addiction data. They were finding people who had never been addicted in their lives (iatrogenic addiction) hooked on this crap. Of course, when these people were cut off from the Oxy, the next best thing was heroin. Perdue essentially created a generation of drug addicts and that is why they are being sued into oblivion, capitalist people.
Nothing like profiting off a tragedy of your own making. What a parasite.
Can’t comment on methadone, but I’m on heavy prescription drugs long term (codeine/ tramadol) and have been having fertility treatment- everyone knows what I’m on and what I’m taking and honestly, I’m the only person concerned about it. I mention it at every appointment to remind them, and no one bats an eye. If I were to fall pregnant, the baby would stay in hospital for a short period of time, but beyond that, nothing. As I said, it may be different for methadone.
No they dont need to be returned. And tbh she was probably doing well as it seems like she was on a pick up for 7 days prescription. That is what im on now and its only because im totally clean, been engaging well with my drugs worker, and ive evidenced im clean. And im on 30ml, i was weaned down to 20ml but it made me quite ill so we upped the dosage again. So i imagine she was doing well for a period of time otherwise she would have had to go to the chemist each day and take it under the supervision of the pharmacist.
Also it is not correct that you get kicked off the methadone programe for testing positive, that just is not correct. Ive tested positive a couple of times and they certainly didnt kick me off! What happens at my local drugs place is if you test positive a couple of times in a row then they put you on a course- i think its called making changes, but i could be wrong. And if you dont engage with that, they give you another opportunity, and if you fail to engage with that then they will wean you off. But they certainly dont just kick you off.
Also its worth noting, alot of seasoned addicts know how to 'play' the system. They know when they have their unity appointment so they wont take the drug for 3 days prior to their appointment-and this makes their swab come back negative. But they are just kidding themselves doing that, and they are not helping themselves by doing that. The drugs worker would much rather you tell them the truth so they are able to support you in a much more effective way.
No you dont get kicked off the programe. What happens is if you test positive twice in a row then they put you on a group therapy type programe, and you get 2 chances to engage with that. If you dont engage then they wean you off methadone slowly (but by then most people re-engage with the programe anyway).
I really feel for your friend, its a horrible thing to be addicted too. I remember when i was first prescribed co-codamol and i was so naive and innocent- i honestly didnt know what it was! I just thought it was a stronger paracetimol. Then they moved me onto tramadol, and then onto codeine. I got to the point i was buying it from pharmacists (Nurophen plus was my fav because it had 12mg of codeine per tablet and i used to calculate i could take 6 of them that would equal 72mg of codeine, then syndol which had 10 mg of codeine per tablet and i used to take 6 of those which would take the codeine up to 122mg). Its sad but thats how i used to try and calculate it) But those are expensive wheras heroin was much cheaper. I also remember pinching my dads oramorph as well , which is something im so ashamed off.
My drugs worker and I, we identified that the cause of my problem is opiates in general, not heroin as such. But its rather opiates as an umbrella term, and heroin was just an easier, cheaper, and more effective way for me. But the root cause of my addiction stems from opiate painkillers. Ive got sciatica and chronic pain but i cant risk taking painkillers anymore. I take methadone which i suppose acts as a painkiller. But there are some users who will not touch methadone! I think because when you take methadone it saturates your receipters, and it makes you feel opiates less if you then take opiates on top of methadone. xxx
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On the “Melody Nelson” FB page, she says both babies were both at the Royal London in Whitechapel.
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