Oh the old “illegal”sex acts thing again lmao. So cringe. Supposedly he put an oyster in her vag. Groundbreaking. No disrespect to the dead but sometimes I read MH quotes about his love of women/sex and I get the major ick.
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me too. I remember Paula in an interview talking about their sex life and it grossed me out. It didn’t feel genuine, felt like someone bragging about an adventurous sex life (they did “everything”) to keep her man around and because she was clinging to the idea of her being some sort of sex symbol, even though she was an older woman with a fairy large family. It’s the kind of silly behaviour people roll their eyes at if you’re in your 20s, but by your 40s you should know better.
it just sounded sleazy to me.
I think this is very spot on. INXS weren’t doing quite as well anymore. Michael was the last of the group to have a child, and I think he felt a little bit lost as he was aging. Plus Paula’s social circle was pretty impressive - she moved in the same circles with Michael’s idols - Bono, David Bowie, Nick Cave. he was on the decline as a frontman and so was the band. He could never get access to these social circles otherwise.
I reckon his relationship with Helena started breaking down and then there was Paula - super keen, with a large brood already that he fell in love with, and she had a persona of an Earth mother/maternal goddess
I think he saw the girls and then tigerLily as a idealised family that offered an alternative life. But I think he was in love with the fantasy of family Life rather than the reality. I remember reading he’d cross the road to visit Nick caves house and witch about how boring life was with Paula. The messy custody battle further hampered those dreams he had of an “escape” and I think being told the girls couldn’t come to aus made him feel like that ray of hope was no longer there, in his irrational drunk and drug induced mind.
if he’d met a woman who was a bit more mature and grounded, without the baggage of drug abuse and custody battles… hed have probably been content with that for a few years at least, and I don’t think he’d have died.
I think having a baby with Paula meant forever being tied to the U.K., to custody battles and it must’ve felt very hopeless to him. Had he maybe not had the head injury and subsequent mental health issues… and if he wasn’t so dependent on substances … he might’ve been able to withstand the custody drama until it was resolved. But it was all a very sad, tragic mix. It’s a tough decision to make but Paula could have come to Australia as planned with Tiger, and left the girls with Bob. Not idea and a hard decision for sure, but she knew the impact of not seeing Tiger would be hard on Michael - she said so herself - so why didn’t she fly out as planned? This sounds harsh and judgemental but I wonder if Paula saw Tiger as something of a leverage and a hold over Michael.
I remember hearing that one of the worst things for Michael when he lost his sense of taste and smell, was not being able to taste his girlfriend (Helena), which I think is so heartbreaking. I can’t imagine the gradual toll that would take on your mental health and that’s without the other factors.
I suspect you’re right.
I think an awful lot of men are attracted to the idea of fatherhood and what it can bring them. They like the idea of elevating their status as a man. But the actual reality of fatherhood, the work, the drudgery… nah, they didn’t sign up for that.
If Michael had lived, I don’t think he would have been a very good dad. He wouldn’t have stayed with Paula. He would have wafted in and out of his daughter’s life.
He would have seen TL when it suited him and probably miss visits and not turn up at the last minute and confused her. I don't think he would have given drugs up completely either.
That’s gross but it’s not illegal, is it? In fact, most stuff is legal between two consenting adults these days. I always wonder if they just mean anal (but that’s not illegal anyway) but I’m probably quite vanilla when it comes to celebrities and their sex lives (and reading some of the stuff MH and PY got up to, I’m quite happy with that i.e the rubber suits, massaging her arse cheeks ‘for hours’ etc).
I think a lot of celeb type men push the boundaries when it comes to sex out of sheer boredom. They can have any woman they want, so they don’t even get a buzz out of ‘the chase’ and have to find it in other ways. Not my cup of tea. I wouldn’t want to be a performing monkey for a man in the bedroom just to keep him interested.
I’m thinking…. Not a gourmet in a posh sense, so never ate oysters. But aren’t they somehow still alive, when eaten?
This would make it illegal, because of sodomy.
Those were different times. Porn has normalised so many sexual acts that were considered extreme 20 years ago. Anal was not an everyday thing back then, but now we have teenage girls who think anal is expected of them the first time they have sex, and getting injured from it too.
I think I read about the “illegal” sex acts in a book about the tabloids, maybe a book by Piers Morgan or someone like that, spilling the “behind the scenes” view from working at a paper. Im sure they said Paula sold that as a story, and they were pretty sure she was over-sensationalising just to cash in.
Seems like she was sending out messages to all his other girlfriends that they were the supreme couple. Also from sounds of it every cloud has a silver lining re the taste and smell thing from what I have read here 
You’re probably right, although I’m sure she put it her in autobiography as well.
Do you mean beastiality?
She said it as if they were going to have another child it sounded like she had frozen embryos but did they use gender selection if she was definite it was another girl?!
I suspect after you've had 4 girls you probably get to the point of assuming all your babies will be girls
Sorry to interject but anal sex between consenting heterosexual couples was illegal until 1994 in the uk, so I’ve always assumed that’s what they meant tbf
I wonder why him and Helena didn’t have kids if he craved a family so badly?I think this is very spot on. INXS weren’t doing quite as well anymore. Michael was the last of the group to have a child, and I think he felt a little bit lost as he was aging. Plus Paula’s social circle was pretty impressive - she moved in the same circles with Michael’s idols - Bono, David Bowie, Nick Cave. he was on the decline as a frontman and so was the band. He could never get access to these social circles otherwise.
I reckon his relationship with Helena started breaking down and then there was Paula - super keen, with a large brood already that he fell in love with, and she had a persona of an Earth mother/maternal goddess
I think he saw the girls and then tigerLily as a idealised family that offered an alternative life. But I think he was in love with the fantasy of family Life rather than the reality. I remember reading he’d cross the road to visit Nick caves house and witch about how boring life was with Paula. The messy custody battle further hampered those dreams he had of an “escape” and I think being told the girls couldn’t come to aus made him feel like that ray of hope was no longer there, in his irrational drunk and drug induced mind.
if he’d met a woman who was a bit more mature and grounded, without the baggage of drug abuse and custody battles… hed have probably been content with that for a few years at least, and I don’t think he’d have died.
I think having a baby with Paula meant forever being tied to the U.K., to custody battles and it must’ve felt very hopeless to him. Had he maybe not had the head injury and subsequent mental health issues… and if he wasn’t so dependent on substances … he might’ve been able to withstand the custody drama until it was resolved. But it was all a very sad, tragic mix. It’s a tough decision to make but Paula could have come to Australia as planned with Tiger, and left the girls with Bob. Not idea and a hard decision for sure, but she knew the impact of not seeing Tiger would be hard on Michael - she said so herself - so why didn’t she fly out as planned? This sounds harsh and judgemental but I wonder if Paula saw Tiger as something of a leverage and a hold over Michael.
I remember hearing that one of the worst things for Michael when he lost his sense of taste and smell, was not being able to taste his girlfriend (Helena), which I think is so heartbreaking. I can’t imagine the gradual toll that would take on your mental health and that’s without the other factors.
Yes, sorry. In German, my first language, „Sodomie“ would be sex with animals.
Is Helena Christensen nice or not?
Take with a pinch of salt but in Gerry Agar's book I remember reading something about Paula taking things like Rohypnol during some of their antics and that Paula was just a "rag doll to do anything he wanted with". Also that when she was still breastfeeding, the sedative drugs would inevitably be in her milk and that because of this Tiger Lily used to be sleepy more than she should be, at that time.
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