Paris Hilton

[Raven_nevermore]

Also let’s not forget Stars Are Blind was a banger

Screwed, nothing in this world- I still love those songs too

 

[queenwannabe]

Is the baby just in the nursery with the nanny constantly? Disgusting she’s having another baby and doesn’t even bring the one she has out his room to spend any time with him!!

 

[Ingognito.Queen]

Excited for this - I think it could be really good.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...ng-Toxic-docuseries-pop-culture-misogyny.html

'Paris Hilton has signed on to produce a scathing new docuseries about 'the sexist, exploitative culture that let down' nine famous women - including herself - between 2000-2010.'

 

[openbook1]

That school sounds horrific. If she was that bad why didn't they move the family out of New York instead of sending her away.
(It might have been said in the documentary)

I am going to guess because they had more opportunities in NYC and at the end of the day, all they cared about is the Hilton name. She says, "my mum wanted me to be a Hilton, I just wanted to be Paris."
She was being a normal rebellious teen. Her parents are horrible.

 

[bunsofsteel]

Yes poor Kim has a lot of sadness in her eyes.

I feel awful for Kim. She's definitely struggled through life.

 

[Ingognito.Queen]

Hmmm I'm thinking something more along the lines of -

Aspen
Hudson
Jackson
Rome/Rome
Milan
Orlando
Phoenix
Rio
Maybe even London

Just came here to say that Paris named her baby Phoenix!!

I was right!

 

[Ingognito.Queen]

And thats before you get to the fact that pregnancy is bloody dangerous. Even if you've had other children without incident. It can lead to birth injuries in the mother. It can kill you. Which is by the by if you're doing it for yourself... but paying someone else to take those risks for you is pretty immoral imo.

On average - for every 100,000 babies born in the UK, less than 9 women die during childbirth...?

Khloe Kardashian lied about being infertile when she was married to Lamar - that family would lie about anything. Let’s face it, this is just rich women piling all the risk and consequence of pregnancy onto poor women because they live in a country that allows them to pay them to do it. This is not your sister, or your close friend, who’s had their own baby and wants to give you the chance to be a parent.

She lied about being infertile as she was afraid to have a baby with her drug addict husband who was constantly cheating on her. She lied to protect herself and also not to have to bring a baby into a toxic situation.

Trauma can begin at conception and affect the baby for the rest of their lives no matter how loving the family they are inducted into

Really? Never knew this - where is the research to back this up?

Jesus some of you need help getting off your high horses! We don't know anything about Paris. Maybe she has a health condition that makes it so she can not/is difficult for her to natural conceive a child? Even if she can conceive naturally but chooses surrogacy, WHO CARES? As long as the surrogate mother is payed for her time/effort and Paris pays for it out her own money. You claim that the babies born via surrogacy can cause trauma but don't post anything to back your claim up. Listen I'm not a big Paris fan but damn the bitterness from some of you is revolting.

Exactly! We really don't know the back story and what led Paris to make this choice. As long as everyone is happy with the situation - where is the problem?

 

[panini]

Hmmm I'm thinking something more along the lines of -

Aspen
Hudson
Jackson
Rome/Rome
Milan
Orlando
Phoenix
Rio
Maybe even London

I quite like the name Tokyo. I can imagine she’s going to be quite a private mother in terms of social media etc, what do you think?

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Funny how these women who choose to be commercial surrogates are always poorer than the commissioning parents isn’t it?

These posts are becoming such reaches. This can be said about any labour in a capitalist society unfortunately

 

[vikka]

If you look at Kathy’s sister Kyles children, they are well adjusted. I think Kathy is cold. All the videoing and calling Paris ‘Star’ all the time. She couldn’t breath and expres

i didn’t expect to either but it shows you she had all that money and she’s a sad, lonely girl. I felt her sister and Mum resented her. And when she said she’ll stop when she makes a billion, that is sad too.

It really is, because when you push off your personal life in favour of material goals, it shows that something's wrong.
I kept thinking that the whole time she said it (esp because at that point that's clear to any armchair psychologist as her abuse was detailed prior to that), but when she said that she'd said the same only with "100 mil" as goal, that was confirmation.

She reaches her goal/time frame and then moves the post to not have to deal with her past.

That said I've read for ages that she's made an empire and wow has she!
I was also very suprised to learn how much stuff she has going and how successful she is, because she isn't in the media as much and I haven't seen her perfume anywhere in ages (not that I've looked, might be right there on the shelves and I keep glossing it over).

The way she detailed the sex video and how it happened also broke my heart.
Brought real perspective, the same for Monica Lewinsky btw, her speeches regarding her brutal treatment by press and people was also eye opening.

Quite disturbing when you consider that others (K Kardash fam) deliberately made a video and sold it for fame.
And that others *ahem ahem (K/Jen)* claim to be billionaires but aren't and that Paris alone still makes more than they do. Made me happy tbh.

Edit: Oh and the K/J clan have turnt themselves into blow up dolls and their whole image is sex and Paris never was that and never turnt to that, either.

 

[D_Wills]

I’ve never minded Paris Hilton (in comparison to the Kardashians etc..) and I’m only half way into the documentary, but, I just don’t buy a lot of what she’s saying, there’s something about her which seems so insincere and fake. I’ve also noticed her voice jumping a lot from her real voice to her ‘character’ in the narrative. Its so strange.

I have to agree. Its hard to believe anything that comes out of a narcissists mouth tbh. She's a sweet enough girl but its all fake. Like when she said she hadn't had a holiday in 15 years but then brought a camera crew along with the fake pool and bedroom shots. Made me eye roll a bit.
I would really love to see her settle down with someone, I wonder if she ever will. It must be so hard to trust anyones genuine intentions when you are a multi millionaire.

 

[probecco]

odd thing to say

Why? She was never pregnant. She didn't even have sex to create the child?

 

[Hunnaybadgerz]

Yes big Kathy (Paris’s grandma) pimped her girls out. “House of Hilton” is a great trashy read about the family.

 

[Ivegone]

Have you seen her YouTube offerings? Bizarre. She’s so unnatural with her children. Is her husband her gay best friend that she decided to marry and have rent a womb babies with?

That's because she doesn't parent the kids

 

[Eltonjohnsflorist]

I liked it. Her life is clearly bonkers but got a little understanding why

 

[Perspicacia Tick]

Are you a feminist? I am.

One of the core beliefs of feminism is that a woman has the right to full bodily autonomy.
'My body, my choice'

Yes I am.

But I don't think my children are part of my body once born so that's a moot point.

I also don't think I should be able to sell my organs, doesn't affect my feminist credentials one iota.

 

[Teaplease20]

Ooo I had no idea this was coming out. I actually adore her, always have, can’t wait

 

[DowntoearthDawn]

I would like to hear what a professional has to say about teens like Paris, who are completely out of control.

She had several issues root themselves as problems later, she was spoilt and denied at the same time. In the docu Nicky says how just about everything was forbidden, the parents were extremely strict and the girls had stricter curfews than their peers.
At the same time Paris received a credit card without a limit for her bday (16?) and shopped so much, the bills were massive, which is why Nicky got a credit card with a limit later at the same age (this was not said in the docu).

Then the home video of one Xmas, the girls are teens and Paris received a Chanel flap and dropped it like it was worthless and wouldn't really answer her dad on the video. I think that showed a lot how broken she was.

On one hand I have sympathy for parents whose kids go totally bananas off the rails and they don't know what to do.
On the other hand Kathy came off like an ass and I just think she was a shyte parent.

Paris was sent to several boot camps and she told her parents how abusive they were and she promised she wouldn't party anymore etc and they didn't listen at all and in the end sent her to Utah (the last "boarding school"/boot camp of her life, which was the most abusive).
The parents knew and yet Kathy pretends like she didn't and like some of it she's hearing for the first time. When those years were the topic, you could see how she was calculating what she'd say.
The fact that Provo kidnaps kids to get them to that school is just so fcked up I don't understand how any parent can even entertain the idea to enroll their child.
That kidnapping alone is enough to fuck up a child's relationship with their parents for life.

Provo now has kids as young as 8, I mean wtf???? Why would an 8 year old even need a "corrective" school?

I think most kids go off the rails because of shit parenting, but with some it does seem out of the blue.
Schools like these are never the answer, however.

Why didn't the Hiltons send Paris to therapy?

When she turnt 18 she was free to leave the school and I think, even though she loves to party, she did a lot of it as a "fuck you" to her parents and did things to spite them and I can't blame her at all.

I've never been a fan of Paris or any of the Hiltons, but I've found Paris and Nicky very likeable in that docu and I have tons of sympathy for Paris.

It is well worth watching.
For those who are hesitant because of the abuse and the stories around that, the docu centres around that topic later on.
The first bit is fine to watch for anyone, the abuse stories come in around.. not sure, half point?

If you look at Kathy’s sister Kyles children, they are well adjusted. I think Kathy is cold. All the videoing and calling Paris ‘Star’ all the time. She couldn’t breath and expres

I watched it the other night! I don’t believe for a second that her mum didn’t know what that place was like. I remember watching that channel 4 show years ago -brat camp? And some of the kids on that seemed utterly broken by their wilderness behaviour schools and that must have been the schools on their best behaviour for the camera crew.

I didn’t expect to feel sorry for Paris, and I didn’t actually know that the sex tape was released without her consent. Surely that’s illegal these days?

i didn’t expect to either but it shows you she had all that money and she’s a sad, lonely girl. I felt her sister and Mum resented her. And when she said she’ll stop when she makes a billion, that is sad too.

 

[1982]

I’ve not read this whole thread (sorry!) but I do like Paris. She’s almost like a real life cartoon version herself!
However, does anyone else get a strange vibe from her husband? I’m not sure woman are his type, if you know what I mean?

 

[Oprahclear]

Is the baby just in the nursery with the nanny constantly? Disgusting she’s having another baby and doesn’t even bring the one she has out his room to spend any time with him!!

Right in so confused!! She did have another baby didn't she a girl?? Why do we never see her? Ever. I came here off the back of her family day post, even the dog was there. But no 2nd kid

 

[Peoniesandballetshoes]

I agree she is afraid of Kathy, it’s a very sad watch to witness Paris apologise to her mother after she disclosed such traumatic experiences as a teenager, Kathy’s response was wild ! dismissive, no compassion shown to her daughter , was a very difficult watch. Kathy appeared to be more concerned with the information contained in the book and how this impacted on her image rather than showing any ability to reflect on how it impacted her daughter and changed the trajectory of her life. Surprised she didn’t stop it from being aired .

same thing when she presented the baby, gifting her mum stuff to help stop the angry .

The husband I think handled it well when Kathy was so focused on telling Nicky and her husband didn’t care about his family or say thank you for being the first to see the baby. Self centred and completely horrible person, Kathy is so used to being number one. I think the whole family or it around her when she personally seems to be the laziest individual.

I think Paris did it with the camera so Kathy couldn't be mean.
her dad seemed genuinely happy to see the baby and that was nice but god Kathy is horrible.
I hope over time Paris is integrated to husbands family more and away from mum.

Nicky is mini Kathy. Uncaring and very judging of Paris but at least slightly better and prompting Paris to take time with the baby more. Feel that even thoughnicky had a nanny she was more hands on, Paris seems to cuddle and run, husband is there more than her.

i felt for Paris when she said she was tired at the wardrobe choosing with her mum and sister, Kathy’s welcome to the resloth comment, I have never seen you work at all kathy, you go to lunches and get photographed in your small little bubble. At least Paris travels, works on do nights, runs her domestic, merchandised etc businesses unlike you Kathy who ’helped’ your husband with the hotels when you were young, now what do you do.

Pretty sure RHOBH was for PR Post Paris documentary and now only in Paris in Love with gritted teeth, didn’t bother to visit your daughters new home for four months and then whenever it’s a conversation that isn’t about you you apply that stupid lipstick, your not fooling anyone Kathy.