Nurses striking

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As a nurse, I definitely support the strikes. I am shocked by some of the posts on here, the government want us all to turn against each other when they are the ones to blame for this catastrophic situation. I have a masters degree, I have so much responsibility every shift and not only do I not have the pay to reflect this, but I am striking for patient safety and the unsafe staffing levels as well. All staff are the backbone of the NHS. We are losing registered nurses faster than ever, nursing degree applications are already down and with stagnant pay on the cards again the current nurse shortage will lead to the NHS not being viable, dismantled, and sold off to private US companies
 
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HCAs do an amazing job. They really do. But it’s common in any organisation for more junior members of staff to be unaware of what their senior staff are doing, and because of that, very common to assume they’re not doing much. It doesn’t mean it’s the case.

I don’t care if nurses are “well paid” they should get more. I saw a tiktok the other day showing a nurse in the us can be on $100k after 5 years. Things have moved on, nurses pay hasn’t moved with it
 
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HCAs do an amazing job. They really do. But it’s common in any organisation for more junior members of staff to be unaware of what their senior staff are doing, and because of that, very common to assume they’re not doing much. It doesn’t mean it’s the case.

I don’t care if nurses are “well paid” they should get more. I saw a tiktok the other day showing a nurse in the us can be on $100k after 5 years. Things have moved on, nurses pay hasn’t moved with it
The US is totally irrelevant in this situation. That is all private healthcare. Most people out there can’t even afford their medication

I support the right to strike but I don’t support any of the strikes that are on currently
 
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It’s not up to you to decide what’s irrelevant. Nurses are leaving in their droves because of poor pay and can obviously transfer their skills to other countries.
 
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I support the strikes. And I’m not sure where this misinformation about it just being for the qualified nurses is coming in. I am an HCA and as a member of the RCN I voted to strike( but my trust didn’t have a mandate)Note how RCN are being very careful to say nursing staff, rather than “nurses”. Because it includes the HCA’s!!
 
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It’s time to completely change how the NHS is funded. We can’t have low taxes and a universal health service.

We need a separate health tax that everyone pays into. And a complete reorganisation of the management structure to do less bean counting.

Make sure GP surgeries are operating sufficiently enough so that people aren’t attending A&E for every ailment.

I don’t know if hospitals have subsidised accommodation for medical staff, but in areas particularly with high housing costs this needs to be an option.
 
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Oh and you forgot all the ambulances are piled up in resus getting their patients in but we can’t get anybody out of A&e onto wards because all the ward discharges can’t get home because there’s no ambulances to take them home because They’re all outside of A&e 😂😂😂
Most health authorities don’t use the emergency ambulances to take people home. My HA use the patient transport vehicles, or taxis in some cases. Anything to get them home and the beds freed up. This brings up the issue of who is going to look after them when they get home. The social care sector is in a terrible state. No one wants to work from 7am to 11pm for less than £10 an hour, driving miles in shocking weather, living off sandwiches and food from garages.
If social care was sorted it would eventually work its way up to the top
 
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Imagine you've been training for 3 years. You've gotten yourself in a load of debt. You've completed 2,300 hours of free labour Then you finally get your pin, which you have to pay £120 for yearly, along with £17 a month to be in a union just to cover your back. You go onto one of your first shifts and staff haven't turned up. The "safe numbers" are 12 but you've only got 8, another ward is even lower so they have to ask for one of your staff too. So now you're on 7. You've got two 2-1's, so that's 4 staff gone. Now you just have 3 people to supervise an entire ward. You know this is dangerous but these are the conditions everyone is used to now so you're basically told to put up and shut up. You probably have 3 or 4 agency staff in who are getting paid triple, with nowhere near the same amount of responsibility. You sit in the office because you've had several incidents and now you've got to get all the paperwork done, as the responsibility lies on you, the nurse, not any other staff. You know your pin has been on the line all shift and, in turn, your liberty. You have to stay behind 3 hours because a nurse has called in sick, and you have paperwork to complete anyway. It's now been a 15 hour shift and you could of picked up more for a shift in Lidl with nowhere near the same amount of responsibility on your shoulders or debt behind you. That's why nurses are striking. Everyday is a battlefield. Everyday patient safety is at risk and everyday that responsibility lies on our shoulders.
 
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Honesty is what's needed. The unions have their stage and top MPs and NO ONE is advising a revamp, a whole new version of the NHS. Same old same
Them each saying is the other's fault if people die :rolleyes: I'm half expecting them to start pinching each others arms next 👶
We're living in a bleeping nursery, no leadership anywhere 🤷‍♀️ I hate them all equally 😣

Myself and other nurses could easily hand our notice in tomorrow and join an agency and be on £40/£50 a hour and the nhs would be screwed with nobody to work for them and then it would all go privatised
Please do this. Its sinking fast and it'll happen anyway. Hurry so we can start afresh. Not saying it will work but neither is it now and GPS are all independent of gov and no one whinges about it 🤷‍♀️
 
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I'm 100% behind strike action

Especially after hearing a soundbite from some twit of an MP on the radio this morning "you're choosing to put patients at risk by striking..." or some such balls! I'm absolutely furious on behalf of NHS staff 🤬

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I think the time they’ve decided to strike is crappy, it’s just before Xmas, there’s a plethora of flus, RSV, strep, MH crisis’ due to the cost of living etc.
I get strikes are meant to disrupt service but in this case disrupting service means even more suffering to the most vulnerable. I can’t get behind that
 
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Any professional body of people can withdraw their labour for any reason they like

Clinicians are already doing this by proxy in leaving in their droves to work in Aldi or retire or call in sick

This strike is just a glimpse of the future in which labour continues to be withdrawn on a mass basis
 
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I'm really not trying to be an hole I am trying to understand. If the NHS working conditions are so crap why don't you all leave and go and work for a private authority... If that's the right term. I work for an accountancy firm. If my conditions were this awful I'd leave. I wouldnt have loyalty to the crappy accountants.
I appreciate nursing is more vocational though and that might explain why you stay x
 
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I'm really not trying to be an hole I am trying to understand. If the NHS working conditions are so crap why don't you all leave and go and work for a private authority... If that's the right term. I work for an accountancy firm. If my conditions were this awful I'd leave. I wouldnt have loyalty to the crappy accountants.
I appreciate nursing is more vocational though and that might explain why you stay x
That’s the whole point, they are all leaving . We have the biggest shortage of nurses of all time
 
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That’s the whole point, they are all leaving . We have the biggest shortage of nurses of all time
I know but you no one can force people to be nurses. Maybe people just dont want to anymore?
Or is it that the NHS has a shortage of nurses but in actual fact there isn't a shortage of nurses in the profession?
 
The problem with nurse shortages is nothing unique to the UK. Exactly the same is happening in the states with permy nurses leaving to do freelance, often in the same hospital. All a bit like the locum issue in the UK.

The NHS is a bit of a cult. It needs reform and the people immediately jumping to assume any kind of reform would the US system are part of the problem.

Another big problem is a whole generation has underpaid taxes and now thanks to modern medicine people are living longer, but with complicated and expensive health issues. Reform should have come decades ago.

 
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I know but you no one can force people to be nurses. Maybe people just dont want to anymore?
Or is it that the NHS has a shortage of nurses but in actual fact there isn't a shortage of nurses in the profession?
Either way there won’t be nurses? I don’t really understand what you mean. You said why don’t they all leave if they’re unhappy, and they are. They leave the profession, country or nurse as bank staff contracted back to the nhs.
 
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I'm really not trying to be an hole I am trying to understand. If the NHS working conditions are so crap why don't you all leave and go and work for a private authority... If that's the right term. I work for an accountancy firm. If my conditions were this awful I'd leave. I wouldnt have loyalty to the crappy accountants.
I appreciate nursing is more vocational though and that might explain why you stay x
yes, all the nurses who are unhappy should leave and go and work for private healthcare, then we would have no NHS and no health service to care for any poor/vulnerable people. Everyone who can’t afford private healthcare should then just suffer should they?
why don’t we just open the workhouse as well whilst we are at it?
honestly listen to yourself
 
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