Nurses striking

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Wasn’t that part of the tit that came out re the pandemic? How little prepared all the countries were despite being warned constantly by experts that the world was “due one” so to speak
 
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Frontline in intensive care??? I’m telling you now all of my colleagues were underprepared. You get some heads up re Ebola. But Covid was on another level. So many have left since Covid because they can’t do it again. Don’t apologise my training was inadequate- we had the same curriculum as other universities and I’m a good nurse. But we were not prepared for Covid. Many weren’t, even the NHS!! Evidently. I’m pleased you had a good prep though! You must have been a pro in lockdown since you got good training.
Front line in Tesco probably
 
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Front line in Tesco probably
I was a frontline worker in a supermarket throughout the pandemic and I was bloody proud of that too. We had no ppe at all for the first few weeks and we worked bloody hard going above and beyond what we would normally, we were helping people yes in a different way but we were still helping people. As were many other people who worked through it.
Where would hospitals of been without the people who kept them fed or the lorry drivers who brought in the supplies for example.
There's no need look down on us because we don't work for the nhs.
 
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In the context of this thread a front line worker is a frontline health care worker ie patient facing worker. It’s misleading for OnlyHereForTheLolz to say they were a frontline worker in this context because they are inferring they had experience of caring for patients in a pandemic situation and that this lends weight to what they have to say about our training and preparation. If you worked in Tesco during the pandemic then I agree you had a crucial role to play in keeping society going, but you don’t know anything more about what it’s like to work in a hospital in that situation and so it’s kind of irrelevant if you’re trying to illustrate how your experience has informed your opinion about what it’s like to work in the nhs

there’s so many people here so ready to get offended about people talking about their experience as health care workers when this is literally a thread about nurses striking.
 
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I was a frontline worker in a supermarket throughout the pandemic and I was bloody proud of that too. We had no ppe at all for the first few weeks and we worked bloody hard going above and beyond what we would normally, we were helping people yes in a different way but we were still helping people. As were many other people who worked through it.
Where would hospitals of been without the people who kept them fed or the lorry drivers who brought in the supplies for example.
There's no need look down on us because we don't work for the nhs.
I absolutely have respect for you and everyone who worked hard in the pandemic and were essential workers. I had to go to work and so did my daughter.

I also think nurses and other NHS workers deserve a decent pay rise and have the right to strike for it. The issue of “average” pay can cloud the needs of those who are at the bottom of the pay scales in any profession.


My biggest issue as can be seen from my previous comments is with this bloody awful corrupt, out of touch, government. They are the ones responsible for this mess and they, together with the gutter press, (yes, I’m talking about you Daily Mail), are the ones who profit from sowing discord amongst the working population.

Love to all who are struggling and fighting for a fairer and more equitable society.

PS. I am not advocating that everyone gets the same pay, nor do I have an issue with rich people. The nature of any society is that some have more than others. I do have an issue with rich people not paying their taxes, and tax avoiding subsidised MPs telling us what to do with our taxes. There is also a wealth of reputable data showing that the gap between the wealthiest and the poorest in the UK has grown exponentially.

I am also wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt, a beret and a “duck the Tories” badge today. Xx
 
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I agree with the above. While I agree that people working in supermarkets during the pandemic played a vital role, the consensus/guidance during covid was that those with symptoms or were positive didn't go to the supermarket. That's very different to front line workers who were working with actual covid positive patients providing personal care etc.

I'm in no way undermining other people's role during covid but hospital staff were up close and personal with covid positive patients with no more PPE than supermarket workers for a big part of the start of the pandemic.
 
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In the context of this thread a front line worker is a frontline health care worker ie patient facing worker. It’s misleading for OnlyHereForTheLolz to say they were a frontline worker in this context because they are inferring they had experience of caring for patients in a pandemic situation and that this lends weight to what they have to say about our training and preparation. If you worked in Tesco during the pandemic then I agree you had a crucial role to play in keeping society going, but you don’t know anything more about what it’s like to work in a hospital in that situation and so it’s kind of irrelevant if you’re trying to illustrate how your experience has informed your opinion about what it’s like to work in the nhs

there’s so many people here so ready to get offended about people talking about their experience as health care workers when this is literally a thread about nurses striking.
Don’t try and look better now you insulted other frontline workers 😂 Just own it. Like I own my tit.
Yes, key worker here and the reason I know a lot of people in the medical field. We produced ventilators and worked bloody hard to get them where they were needed.
You act like you were some sort of martyr during the pandemic. Thank duck you didn’t need to martyr yourself for me 😂
 
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Don’t try and look better now you insulted other frontline workers 😂 Just own it. Like I own my tit.
Yes, key worker here and the reason I know a lot of people in the medical field. We produced ventilators and worked bloody hard to get them where they were needed.
You act like you were some sort of martyr during the pandemic. Thank duck you didn’t need to martyr yourself for me 😂
Nope actually due to my personal health circumstances i was shielded. Just sticking up for my colleagues. I maintain that you don’t know what it’s like. I imagine your company provided you with proper PPE if you went into a hospital?
 
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Nope actually due to my personal health circumstances i was shielded. Just sticking up for my colleagues. I maintain that you don’t know what it’s like. I imagine your company provided you with proper PPE if you went into a hospital?
I didn't go into hospitals and in fact the beginning we couldn't have any PPE because it was all reserved for hospital staff. It was a bit of a tit show tbh. I think people forget what the beginning was like.
But anyway I don't want to derail the thread with Covid talk. Think I've had enough of that during the bloody pandemic
 
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Front line in Tesco probably
Jesus. I'm not sure if you're aware how much of a fool you sound on this thread. You clearly think you're above everyone else and it really doesn't do your cause any justice.
Tesco workers were JUST AS IMPORTANT in the pandemic. Why don't you open up your surgery and see some patients so we don't all have to flock to a&e putting nurses under even more pressure.
 
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Jesus. I'm not sure if you're aware how much of a fool you sound on this thread. You clearly think you're above everyone else and it really doesn't do your cause any justice.
Tesco workers were JUST AS IMPORTANT in the pandemic. Why don't you open up your surgery and see some patients so we don't all have to flock to a&e putting nurses under even more pressure.
Loool I love you 😂😂😂😂😂
 
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Honestly! I can't cope with the superiority! Especially when I went on to read they didn't even work themselves during the pandemic. Sit the duck down then 😂
I missed the bit where they didn't even work through the pandemic, oh well least they were safe up in their ivory tower while us non medically trained plebs kept the country going in our own ways. Hope they didn't have home delivery from tesco how hypocritical would that be 🤣🤣🤣
 
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I missed the bit where they didn't even work through the pandemic, oh well least they were safe up in their ivory tower while us non medically trained plebs kept the country going in our own ways. Hope they didn't have home delivery from tesco how hypocritical would that be 🤣🤣🤣
Thats one thing I hate, people looking down on others!
 
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I can see this all ending with no decent pay offer for Wales, England and Wales. Many nurses etc will leave but realisticly most won't because the pay is still higher than nat minimum.
 
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Every single bleeping time the NHS staff give their reasons for striking it always includes mentioning supermarket workers for some reason. Why?!
They go to work, do a job same as everyone else.
You want a pay rise and the public to support your cause whilst making snide hand comments about people who aren’t in the medical field, dunno if it’s occurred to you but not everyone wants to be a nurse/doctor etc.
The “frontline in Tesco” staff were the ones keeping fridges and cupboards filled, providing deliveries for those who couldn’t leave the house due to medical reasons. We’d have been ducked without supermarket staff.
Also, bit hypocritical from NHS staff to keep jibing at supermarket workers considering “nurses are leaving their trusts to work at Lidl for more money” 🤔
 
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Jesus. I'm not sure if you're aware how much of a fool you sound on this thread. You clearly think you're above everyone else and it really doesn't do your cause any justice.
Tesco workers were JUST AS IMPORTANT in the pandemic. Why don't you open up your surgery and see some patients so we don't all have to flock to a&e putting nurses under even more pressure.
I think you’re missing my overall point in this thread as the pandemic is just one small part of this but overall the strike isn’t about the pandemic it’s about a decade plus of denrigration in pay and working standards. This has happened for many of us not just nurses but the RCN etc can only really deal with nurses. It’s tiring when it keeps getting brought back to what other people did in the pandemic when really that’s not the point of this all
 
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No one’s missing a point. It’s not just on this thread, comments on news articles, twitter etc are full of snide remarks off nurses etc about lower paid staff.
So they want their pay rise, want people to support them, happy for these low paid workers to face an NI rise, alongside the cost of living skyrocketing, to pay for this payrise, but will happily make constant digs at people who, god forbid, aren’t medically trained and work in a supermarket? duck that
 
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Nope actually due to my personal health circumstances i was shielded. Just sticking up for my colleagues. I maintain that you don’t know what it’s like. I imagine your company provided you with proper PPE if you went into a hospital?
Would love to know exactly what job you supposedly do for the NHS?
 
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I can see both sides of the coin. I’m very much pro-strikes, not just with nurses but I can’t see how this will do anything for pay or conditions. We’ve had a Tory government for 13 years - if they would’ve given a pay increase, they would’ve done it now.

I think most of us are struggling money wise as well and finding it hard to make ends meet. Not a lot of people agree with me on this but I do think some nurses have a chip on their shoulder since Covid - my Nana has weekly district nurses and the amount of times I’ve been there when they visit and heard them say they don’t have time to do that (one example being they couldn’t change a leg ulcer dressing that had been on a week as the nurse ‘didn’t have time’ yet was the reason for her visit!). My boyfriends had a heart valve operation cancelled twice due to nurses strikes as well.

Basically our entire healthcare system needs overhauling starting from the bottom up; bringing back nursing bursaries, re-structuring NHS management etc.
 
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