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until about 1.5- 2 years ago brooke was super strict and super controling about their diet.
it often seemed that the kids didnt eat enough and were often hungry.this was often talked about on this forum.
this almost certainly contributed to the older siblings delayed growth and delayed puberty(there other reasons as well,especially with sabre).
naz got to eat enough just before the normal age of puberty and this probably contributed to her normal growth and puberty.
 
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some things we learned from their last vlog.
1)sabre wants/hopes to start dating pretty soon. when she is an adult-that means in a few months from now.
that is the main reason it is so important for her to get a room of her own in the new house.she wants to be able to have privacy with her future boyfriend.
she frustrated and and angry with with the idea of having to share a room and even more frustrated and angry with the idea of biggy getting a room while she will have to share.



2)naz who is almost 12(in november) has begun puberty(her parents talked about it).
not surprising and not unusual for this age. but in this family it is!
3)sabre said that biggy hasnt begun puberty and is still a child.

an insensitive and even a mean remark. sabre,especially, should know this.
we dont know if this is true literally. if it is true there are 2 possibilities-
biggy may be a late bloomer like sockie.
biggy may need hormone treatment like sabre.
i dont think they know yet.
4)they are seriously considering letting sockie share a room with the 2 babys!sockie has "volunteered".
it is an awful idea and extremely unfair to sockie.brooke is exploiting sockies deep attachment to her and her deep need to please her.sockie is the" good" child of the family and this may even have to do with sockie being perhaps on the spectrum.
her parents shouldnt exploit her like this and her " volunteering " is not real consent.
5) all the houses they have considered had only 4 rooms and thats creates many problems.it is impossible to find a satisfactory arrangement for all their kids with only 4 rooms.it frustrates the children and causes tension between them.
they should be willing to put in more money or search for a larger house in qweensland where it is much more cheap.
 
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PoppyJ322

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Brooke needs therapy, she is unhinged and offloading all of her issues on to the kids, she drags them in to adult topics almost to force the children to give her comfort and attention, even if that means bullying them. She clearly has quite a few deep insecurities about body image, health anxiety, self esteem and she is projecting it all on to the kids. It was only a small statement but when speaking about her dad she said he died at a young age and then said she is almost that age so she can be with her dad again, she has mentioned previously about her dad dying young and so she will as well, it’s clearly a very raw trauma for her, that she also dumps on the kids. It’s scary because I genuinely think she could be very mentally ill. She also clearly doesn’t want Sabre to go to Uni, she is getting in her head about it, making out like only doctors go to Uni and then in one video it cut to a clip of Brooke and Sockie making fun of Sabre about something saying she can’t even do that so she shouldn’t go to Uni, it’s obvious that Brooke is ganging up with the help of Sockie (being the kid that desperately wants to please Brooke) just like she does when Sabre wants her own room, no doubt its Brooke that put Sabre off of driving by telling her horror stories, everything is about keeping the kids close to her. Therapy could do wonders for them all.
 
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PoppyJ322

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It breaks my heart when everyone tells Sabre to “move out” when she voices needing privacy as an adult, there is something so toxic about that, she has been held back in life by her parents, they have created an environment of codependency, and Sabre would probably be scared to just be chucked out on her own at 18, lots of people do it, but I just feel she doesn’t seem ready for that, she is still struggling to find the confidence to drive. The “then move out” statement seems to come from Sockie the most, perhaps because of her different perspective and possible autism, she doesn’t get Sabres view point, Sockie has no interest in boys or privacy or even friend groups, and the fact that the parents allow Sockie to say this to Sabre would suggest to me that the parents likely would want to make the threat themselves but Sockie is doing the dirty work. I see a lot of tension coming for the siblings now they are becoming older, disagreements become more serious and personal as they get older, the kids certainly don’t seem to be the “team” they used to be. Naz seems to be growing in to a lovely sensible young lady, but I think her occasional age inappropriate behaviour is because she only has Sabre and adult social media influencers to look up to, if she was with girls her own age more regularly she would also age in a similar way, rather than trying to be like her nearly 18 year old sister.
 
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gr00vychick

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Sabre needs to realise there is more to life than what she looks like, or what outfit she's wearing. I feel she only consentrates on this aspect of herself. My girls have friendships, school, hobbies. So aren't so focused on their looks. She used to be a about her skating and surfing.
Same with Naz she tries so hard to look older. She’s naturally pretty and doesn’t really need the amount of make up she wears. She’s always trying to make every top she wears into a crop top and wants to be just like Sabre.
 
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fletcher401

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Sabre is not mature enough to move out on her own. In today's vlog, she said she was really scared of having to move out. I feel like they're partly pushing this narrative of Sabre moving out for content. I just can't see her living on her own. Brooke and Justin will still be heavily involved in her life. There's not much point in her moving out if she'll still be cared for...

On the topic of the bedroom situation: Brooke and Justin should've bought a house with enough bedrooms for everyone. End of story. It seems ridiculous to me that the kids continue to fight about the bedrooms when the family could've just bought a bigger house. No kid should be sleeping in the attic. They would've needed a 7 bedroom house, which I'm sure they could've afforded (maybe not in Bondi but definitely somewhere in Sydney).
 
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Amanda87

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I just watched the video they did for their Christmas presents.
I cannot believe all Sockies presents except a pair of shoes, a workout outfit and headphones, were for winky. Like I understand that she’s bonded with him the most and she might have wanted those things for him, but they shouldn’t have been her Christmas presents. Also the other 3 kids got absolutely spoilt with hundreds and hundreds spent on them with expensive things(Biggys barrow hoodie was at least $300 alone!), and got lots. Sockie barely got anything even with the dogs stuff included. I dunno, being a parent, it’s always even with my kids, I will spend the same amount on them and they would never get presents for the family pet. even if they are more bonded to it.
 
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PoppyJ322

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I think it’s awful them going through sabres phone.. she’s literally an adult in 3 months, they clearly don’t respect her privacy. Even the whole room thing they’re teasing again, saying would you rather move to Sydney and share or have your own room in Queensland… why does she need to pick she should have her own room regardless! You can tell how fed up sabre is getting when brookes changed her mind to Queensland again (though who knows how long that will last). I also find it so annoying how when Justin was trying to say something serious about how boys shouldn’t take advantage of sabre and Brooke was there just giggling away… like what’s funny about that?
I was shocked at them going through Sabres phone, especially her father, I would have been mortified if my parents looked through my photos as a teenager! they aren’t even doing it from a safeguarding perspective because they are showing their underage daughters bottom and other scandalous images online to millions of people, there could be predators out there getting hold of these private images! It’s one thing Sabre taking these pictures to feel confident and maybe even sending them to boys her age (who didn’t as teenagers) but her parents putting them on the Internet where they can never be removed and of their technically still underage daughter, risking some disgusting predators getting hold of them, I mean talk about irresponsible! Sabre may almost be an adult but she is still quite sheltered and incredibly self conscious, so she may agree for those photos to be out there right now because she feels attractive and wants other people to find her attractive, but she may get bullied for it or get taken advantage of over it and change her mind, but there is no going back. Brooke jokes about being much worse with the pictures she took of herself, maybe so Brooke but your pictures weren’t put all over the Internet for all to see. Ugh poor Sabre
 
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account70032

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It’s actually kind of uncomfortable to see constant videos of Naz and Sabre fighting developing a toxic relationship with each other if things never improve. The parents just happily filming them arguing mostly Brooke kind of seems like she loves having the content cause it’s dramatic but any decent parent would seriously be trying to sort the issues between those two girls because they’re sisters it’s sad a fight over a room or clothes or whatever makes them shout at each other constantly. Yeah they’re siblings around each other 24/7 they’re going to have moments one of them gets on each other’s nerves or disagree so I’m not saying things have to always be perfect between them but their relationship is getting strained. With their age gap too it’s crazy how much they fight and the things they fight over you would think there’s only 2 years between them. This house bedroom argument is annoying at this point they need to figure it out already. I get Sabre has said her parents were more strict with her at Naz age and obviously she went through puberty later cause of her medical condition so maybe she only feels like she’s catching up on life now while Naz is rushing to grow up so it’s like they are in the same stage at the same time so they clash and compete but it’s the parents responsibility to turn the camera off , stop being so money hungry and try help sort out the problems because nothing will ever get better between the girls otherwise.
 
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PoppyJ322

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In all honesty they already have room to give all the kids privacy, they just choose not to, they have been looking for this “dream house” for years, and using it as an excuse as to why the kids don’t have more privacy. I don’t know the strict ins and outs of their housing situation, but they seem to have a gym, they have the place that Sockie used to cook in, why not split up the gym and give Sabre a room of her own, or let her use the ex cooking property, they could even let Sabre have the babies room, put some dividers up in the large joint room and the younger kids could all have a small semi private room each, and Sabre could have her completely private room away from the others, their house isn’t exactly a small house, there are lots of rooms here and there and far more property than we see, there is no excuse, even Fliz has a large house with many rooms just for herself, the kids are always there anyway, whats the harm in Sabre moving in there, if they can’t find the dream house soon, they will have to make the house they have work temporarily for their children going through puberty and entering adulthood! They just want all the kids to be stuck together for easy vloging access and house work, baby sitting, editing ect, if Sabre ever gains control over her own life, guess who loses control over her! They splashed $100,000 on Sockie to meet Gordon Ramsey, could they not splash $100,000 to make small adjustments to the large property they have to give the kids rooms
 
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In my opinion there shouldn’t be a discussion if Sabre or Biggy get their own room. The four older ones should ALL get their own room. They all deserve their own space as they are all teenagers/start puberty soon or just have. Naz deserves her own room too, she’s starting to grow up and it’s important for a tween to have their own room. And Sockie is almost 16, she needs her own room, they all do. The ‘babies’ can share, when they get older Sabre will have already moved out so they don’t have to share anymore.

They need six bedrooms and I’m sure that wouldn’t be too hard to find, but Brooke keeps switching between Sydney and Queensland. They have enough money, finding a house with six bedrooms shouldn’t be too hard. They’ve been talking about moving for two years, I honestly believe Brooke doesn’t even care if her almost 18 year old daughter finally gets her own room. I think Brooke just really enjoys making videos talking about moving or ‘news about our house’, but never actually deciding something. It’s just for the clicks.
 
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Anyone else feeling uncomfortable about Brooke and Justin yet again using something like Cancer to stir up anxiety and suspense during their vlog, they used to do “she has cancer” Vlogs when the kids were younger and I always thought it was inappropriate for a kids channel considering how traumatic cancer can be for families. I understand that Brooke was anxious and as I women I do sympathise, however, the way they dramatised it, trying to suggest with their edits that something bad was happening, setting up their camera in a hospital where women are getting real cancer diagnosis, getting the best shots to make them look solitary, sorry but cancer is not a form of entertainment! If they really must include it in the video, they should say that she is getting checked, then immediately say she is fine to offer relief to their young viewers! I could imagine that the kids watching their channel would really feel upset by that.
Sockie was also missing from the most recent vlog, I assume she was left at home with the babies and Winky, which she likely offered to do, but that doesn’t make it fair, she is just trying to please her parents, and it should be the parents responsibility to make sure she doesn’t feel she has to do that.
I really agree!! I seriously thought Brooke had cancer when she said at the start of the video that if it gets posted then something very bad has happened. I understand if you want to be an open person but there are some things better kept private. Cancer scares are one of them. I think vlogging at specialised hospitals is very insensitive considering people around you are at their most vulnerable.
 
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Amanda87

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Sabre should have gotten her own room, they should have put Sockie and Naz together, and Biggy with Disco. And Charm with Brooke and Justin. Supposedly Naz got her own room because she fights with everyone so no one wants to room with her. So they reward that behaviour? If that’s true, I’d put her in with the 2 youngest ones if she was gonna be like that.
 
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Tanny2034

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I feel so bad for Sabre. She's a prisoner in her own home. She's 18 now and should have access to her share of the earnings in a trust account. I highly doubt she has one. This was all set up for her to not have enough education or social ability to go out on her own. She is trapped. If she wanted to fight, she can't even afford legal guidance. I feel like someone on the outside would have said something to her in passing. Greedy parents using their kids for their gain. I wish she could get out of there, it really does feel like she's frustrated.
 
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In the latest video, the chair challenge, they are planning to get a new puppy - Justin doesn't want it. At the end of the video they're talking about respecting Justin's boundaries and Sabre goes "we have to respect Papa, he finally put his foot down on something" and Brooke goes "It's the first time he's put his foot down on anything".

UMMM DIDN'T HE LITERALLY STAND ON THEIR PREVIOUS PUPPY AND IT DIED?!!? Biggy's facial reaction, he grimaces, showed exactly what I was thinking, though I don't think Sabre realised how it sounded. Think about the choice of words, the fact they repeated it twice, I can't believe they didn't edit it out.

Anyway, surprise surprise, they have bought a new puppy.
 
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Tanny2034

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Poor Naz was so scared her mother was going to chastise her for having a rash/reaction on her face. Just makes me wonder how often Brooke loses it about any given thing. Also Naz said she was working on her painting from morning to late afternoon on multiple days straight. That doesn't sound like they are doing any schoolwork. If they are, it certainly isn't enough.
 
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yuza

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I personally think if Sockie wants dog items, she should get them. I have an autistic son, I would love for him to want new tracksuits or the latest lego, but he enjoys toddler style sound books and bath toys, so that’s what he got. Individuals with special interests should be encouraged and I’m glad the family encourage Sockie's interests by buying her gifts for Winky. I see nothing wrong with it, it’s actually very supportive.
 
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nadiatania17

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I’m really worried about Sabre. There’s no way she feels happy and free living how she is, she KNOWS turning 18 means you’re an adult, and when you turn 18 so much more of the world opens up for you, but instead she’s stuck working for her parents. I can almost guarantee she wants to do things on her own but due to the way she was raised she is probably absolutely terrified to go out into the world on her own without the very close support of her parents. She will want to make her own channel and make her own money, but probably fears Brooke and Justin will take control, and even though she is an adult she is probably not educated in her own adult rights and what’s actually normal for someone her age. Plus she probably doesn’t want to upset her family. Behind closed doors with cameras off we will never know how she is really treated, what rules are really in place. From someone who had an EXTREMELY controlling family and upbringing, I think she’s definitely starting to feel suffocated and stuck with all these responsibilities that she feels she can’t escape. I think a possible break down for Sabre is looming very soon..
 
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Amanda87

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In the time between Them buying the house in Queensland and then looking for a new house, (it’s almost 2 years now, was November 2020 they posted they bought their dream home in qld) they could have designed and built a new house, that fits their requirements with bedrooms and things like that.
 
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