Yup totally, I think it’s kind of an ego boost Jackie, that they can get women and girls to send them intimate pictures and I’ve no doubt they will be sharing and showing them around.
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I am sorry you went through that. I wish you had reported it because if anyone he had been vile with had come forward at the time it happened, he would have been cancelled sooner, which would have saved others from him.
I would like to add that Ashley Walters is one of the kindest most supportive people around. I knew him back in 2010 before he was with Danielle and he was co parenting his children from previous relationships and he is the most humble genuinely hilarious guy who does a hell of a lot for his community, but, I don’t know how he couldn’t have known what Noel was like if so many of their peers have said how much of an open secret it was. I do however still have a lot of time for Ash and just hope it was the fact that it was more ignorance of the severity of Noels behaviour rather than turning a blind eye.
I think at that time in 2009 and Twitter was relatively new I wouldn’t have even thought on that level to report it if I’m being honest. In hindsight I should have said something to someone about it but I was embarrassed at being asked for something so personal and just wanted to forget the interaction ever happened I just felt ick.
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Bit victim blamey, no? Sure logically, its right but woah there
I must admit I thought that was a slightly old fashioned take. It’s not on victims to prevent other potential victims.
I 100% agree @Kinvarra x
I think that’s what needs to change also, maybe this is the reason women haven’t come forward before for fear or embarrassment of the fact the people may perceive them as having done something to encourage it, or the judgeyness of some people thinking that it’s someone else’s fault for not speaking up when it’s no ones fault but Noel Clarke’s he chose to act this way
I have been a victim too. However, he approached at a do that I was with alongside my date who turned around and said when I mentioned what had happened "That's Noel being Noel. Just ignore him". Everyone knew what a bastard he is!
Thank you for speaking up hun, that’s the problem, that behaviour is just seen as ladish and banter with zero concern for how it makes a woman feel, he is a bastard and a piece of tit and your a Goddess
According to the Daily Mirror, 5 are being looked into . Clarke , Barrowman I bet...... who are the other 3?
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I am sorry you went through that. I wish you had reported it because if anyone he had been vile with had come forward at the time it happened, he would have been cancelled sooner, which would have saved others from him
I am sorry you went through that. I wish you had reported it because if anyone he had been vile with had come forward at the time it happened, he would have been cancelled sooner, which would have saved others from him
It is a fine line isn't it? Everyone has a right to not report someone, most likely because they feel they are going to be fobbed off, want to forget it or the end result will harm you more than the perp. Unfortunately, this kind of abuse thrives because the perps know exactly that those reasons are why they can get away with it. Being a whistleblower is thankless, but you are unlikely to be the first or the last person that they abuse. I hope this fucker gets his comeuppence. Seeing garbage people get caught out is delicious.
Why oh why do some men think it’s OK to flash their bits in public. Like, how do they get off on that.
Not In a million years would a woman flash their fanny flaps or pull their knickers down to get their butthole out! They just wouldn’t.
I also don’t get the whole asking women for pics, like if a man wants to see a vag or boobs, surely just go and look at porn?
Jason Maza probably. Not sure about the other two.
Like most sexual assault it's about power more than just sex
It sounds like people did report him, and questioned it and were ignored. As with Barrowman, they were told to ignore him, just stay away from him etc to save people actually confronting them.AllSeeingEye123 said:
I am sorry you went through that. I wish you had reported it because if anyone he had been vile with had come forward at the time it happened, he would have been cancelled sooner, which would have saved others from him
It is a fine line isn't it? Everyone has a right to not report someone, most likely because they feel they are going to be fobbed off, want to forget it or the end result will harm you more than the perp. Unfortunately, this kind of abuse thrives because the perps know exactly that those reasons are why they can get away with it. Being a whistleblower is thankless, but you are unlikely to be the first or the last person that they abuse. I hope this fucker gets his comeuppence. Seeing garbage people get caught out is delicious.
Jason and ashley
Today’s front page….. who could they be 
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I knew a woman who did things like that and she was sectioned. The banter defence really doesn’t go both ways.
Not usually no, but didn't Pheobe Waller-Bridge do this during a stage production to one of her costars? I was disgusted by the story but it was framed as a hilarious jape, can't imagine if she had been a man the reaction would've been the same.
Yes she did - and told the story on Graham Norton. It definitely would not have gone down as well if Tennant - who I think was on the sofa, was telling the story.
Barrowman confirmed?
Both victim-blaming AND naive. The only thing that would have come from it would be fast-forward to 2021 and the person he tried to violate saying 'well I tried to report this back in 2009 and nothing was done'. The Guardian article is FULL of stories of women saying they tried to do something about his behaviour.
In case you haven't noticed, it has taken a HUGE shift in public consciousness and literally dozens of women telling their story about one man and the papers deciding to print it and a huge social media backlash to occur before anything has been done. It's a rare occurrence and the industry has always been full of these types. It's only now, big old 2021, and several years after the US me too movement, that these abusers in the UK might actually start being slightly worried that something MIGHT be done about them.
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Please don't let anyone make you feel like you have to justify yourself for reporting/not reporting or however you choose to process and deal with your OWN trauma. The only person responsible for future victims is the abuser. I'm extremely sorry that the moment you finally feel able to tell your story has been met with instant victim blaming. I had hoped we were starting to move past this but clearly not