Noel Clarke

[Brian Butterfield]

Ashley Walters statement was very well judged. I hope he had no idea, and he does seem like a decent person. He has not done what a lot of men, even good ones which is side with a male they know being accused of inappropriate or worse behaviour because they think women over react and the man was ‘misunderstood’. I also feel for him, and all the others working on Bulletproof, and NC’s other projects. Some of them will get shut down for good so they are all going to lose a paying job-I know that Ashley does get a lot of work, but a jobs a job and people plan whole lives round production.

I think the fact he came out so quickly with a statement means he was fully aware of what Noel was like.

I can't imagine he worked that closely with him and didn't see anything.

 

[laughing]

Ashley Walters must have know what was going on.

Another well executed PR statement

 

[Brian Butterfield]

Ashley Walters must have know what was going on.

Another well executed PR statement

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It was a preemptive strike, he knew the tit was about to hit the fan in a big way and needed to distance himself ASAP.

 

[bitterntwisted]

We were talking about Noel last night and we think the shock is that he is a part of a younger generation that you would expect to act better

Which generation you are from has no bearing on whether you are a misogynist or not. Misogyny/sexism/chauvanism is as old as time.

 

[WadieHaddadsChocolates]

Noel is 45 anyway. He's a middle-aged man. I think there are as many bad attitudes toward women around as ever though among even very young people, formed through various influences, including the tsunami of porn young lads are exposed to at younger ages than ever these days.

 

[Thegreenbush96]

I think Rebecca Ferguson posted this a couple weeks ago and it was in reference to Katie Waissel's story, which imo was pretty much neutralised by the press - I wonder who her perpetrator was?

Zoe Alexander has been making youtube videos about abuse on the X-Factor and said that she was told by two victims that the media were about to print their stories too - they told journalists all the harrowing details and in the end the paper ditched their stories without explanation. So they evidently pick and choose who they are comfortable outing and who they aren't (I know this isn't a newsflash, as there are plenty of alleged abusers currently being protected to the ends of the earth in this industry).

Rather than a 'me too' movement in the UK, I think media / industry bosses intend to use the Noel Clarke exposé to make it look like they give a damn, but ultimately want to convey the impression it's 'one bad apple' and continue to protect all the other big famous (mostly) men that have been accused (too many to mention).


After the US Me Too movement, it was widely established that NDAs are illegal when they are being used to cover up literal crimes and thus not worth the paper they are written on. And yet that has not stopped UK abusers / enablers using them, or victims / newspapers abiding by them (victims I can understand, as they will literally be in fear for their lives and you can just imagine the types of threats and intimidation dished out to them).

Newspapers I believe are more in cahoots with those being accused (the powerful ones anyway) and use gagging orders as a way of getting out of covering these stories - 'oh well, our hands are tied on this'.

Legal aspects make it hard for the British media to publish abuse allegations. You have to have more evidence than just a single statement to be able to defend a libel case. A he said/she said case when go for defamation hearing would likely end with the acussed winning Unless Other evidence proves the allegation likely took place.

 

[Sazbee]

Adam deacon having his say now. It’s sad he wasn’t believed in the past and he’s obviously suffered pretty badly because of Noel. Hopefully he can get some closure now.

 

[Caitlin44]

It isn’t so much about a bandwagon, it’s that you aren’t the only voice anymore.
I have experience of being hit repeatedly by an ex. I’ve never told anyone about him (I’ve told one person I was hit but they are a friend who lives far away and doesn’t know anyone in my circle here)

The reason I don’t tell people is because I’m ashamed but also scared. He’s mean and much more nasty than other people realise. I don’t think people have any idea what he is really like - he’s a bully with very few morals.
No way am I exposing myself or my kids to that. I’m not telling people what he is like. It took so much to get out of that life, I’m just staying quiet. Staying off his radar and keeping my head down.
And he isn’t even in my work life or can influence it. Unlike Noel and most of his accusers. I can cut this man out my life entirely. I don’t think they could.

However, if a lot of women started telling their stories and they were similar, then yes.
Of course I would speak up.
Of course I would tell people and show the photos I have of the bruises.

But until then I’m keeping quiet.

This isn’t about bandwagons. It’s safety in numbers.


I tried to tell someone once. I started saying he had hit me and she interrupted me and said
“I’m surprised you put up with that. I thought you were strong”
So I didn’t tell her anymore I changed the subject.
And I drove home crying thing how weak I was that I didn’t walk away immediately. That I went back.
It’s such a complicated dynamic and leaves such scars.
It is very hard to understand, I know. But the thing is, you don’t have to understand. You just have to not be a critical hole when your friend tells you about it.

I was in the same position after getting out of an abusive relationship. I was never hit but was put through years of psychological and financial abuse. I finally felt strong enough to contact the police. Not to get him arrested or anything (I knew I had no real proof) but to have something on record if someone else had or did come forward with a similar story. I hoped it would help them to be believed. Anyway, the police woman I spoke to basically said it was normal to fight in relationships so I hung up the phone in tears.

Never again will I come forward and put myself in that position again

 

[House of Tea]

I was in the same position after getting out of an abusive relationship. I was never hit but was put through years of psychological and financial abuse. I finally felt strong enough to contact the police. Not to get him arrested or anything (I knew I had no real proof) but to have something on record if someone else had or did come forward with a similar story. I hoped it would help them to be believed. Anyway, the police woman I spoke to basically said it was normal to fight in relationships so I hung up the phone in tears.

Never again will I come forward and put myself in that position again

I am sorry to hear that. I don’t know when that happened but we are lead to believe that the police take domestic abuse, whether it is psychological or physical, more seriously and sympathetically now. And some forces are better than others of course. I hope you are in a better place now.

 

[WadieHaddadsChocolates]

Anyway, the police woman I spoke to basically said it was normal to fight in relationships so I hung up the phone in tears.

FFS, they are utterly hopeless sometimes. I'm sorry that happened to you.

 

[Caitlin44]

I am sorry to hear that. I don’t know when that happened but we are lead to believe that the police take domestic abuse, whether it is psychological or physical, more seriously and sympathetically now. And some forces are better than others of course. I hope you are in a better place now.

Thank you! This was three years ago and I was lucky enough to be able to afford intensive therapy and I’m happier than I ever was before.

I’m glad these women are able to come forward now with their story and are being believed. Hopefully times are changing

 

[The Devils Arse]

I was in the same position after getting out of an abusive relationship. I was never hit but was put through years of psychological and financial abuse. I finally felt strong enough to contact the police. Not to get him arrested or anything (I knew I had no real proof) but to have something on record if someone else had or did come forward with a similar story. I hoped it would help them to be believed. Anyway, the police woman I spoke to basically said it was normal to fight in relationships so I hung up the phone in tears.

Never again will I come forward and put myself in that position again

I'm sorry you were put in that position. Sometimes it depends what force and who you speak to, which is shocking. I used to be a copper and when to an incident in which the female partner was getting harassed by her ex. Nothing nasty was being said, it was all very complementary etc but she was just getting torutued by it all. My colleague turned round to her and advised "nothing we can do about him harassing you as he is being nice" FFS. Absolute rot.

To anyone in this position, when you speak to the police, please ask to speak to someone in the domestic abuse unit if you are feel like the call handler is not taking it seriously. Forces nowadays have to take DA incredibly seriously, and everytime a domestic is reported, paperwork has to be filled in Xx

 

[Captainmouse]

Apparently viewpoint has been removed from the hub

 

[The Devils Arse]

Apparently viewpoint has been removed from the hub

I think they were only keeping it on for 72 hours so viewers could watch Fridays episode. I feel so sorry for the other actors and crew. All that hard work, probably never to be shown again, but right decision to remove it.

 

[Booington]

Sadly not in a union. I learnt my lesson there.
He's disgusting and I still have to pass him and get emails from him.
It took me a year or so to get over shaking when I thought or saw him. I'd burst into tears at home.
To know this man has a vile reputation and is still employed and protected is the most upsetting part.
I've said he's dangerous, I've said he will do this again and it will be worse next time.
I'm so bleeping angry now I nearly confronted him at work because he'd come to our area of work where he's banned.
It took everything I had not to chase him and tell him in front of everyone that he is banned because he's a predator
Hence HR saying I need counselling to manage my emotions.

I consider myself pretty tough and it took everything to make the complaint and go through the procedures and it nearly broke me.
I absolutely and totally see how these men get away with it.
And it won't just be 20 women. You can easily times that by 3 or 4. I'd say it's rare to come forward because it's such a complex situation and there are limited help in place for these situations.

Maybe I will go to the police ,just to chat to them

im not telling you what you should do, because doing it is very different to saying it but you would have a strong case here if you went to the police. Keep a diary of everything that has happened, even him approaching you when he has no need etc, if the other workers want to add their experiences that would strengthen your case. If he has touched anyone, keep that clothing in a bag and don’t wash it.
your company are leaving themselves open massively as they are clearly aware there are allegations but failing to protect you in the workplace.
copy any emails relevant to your own private email address as evidence. Where does it say he’s banned from certain areas? get a copy of it .
at the very least you could look to get a payout from this company, why the duck should you and others have to put up with being attacked at work?

 

[Blackjack2]

This is probably irrelevant to this now but I followed NC on instagram
And didn’t even realise he was married still he never ever ever had a photo of his wife on there until February this year. Which isn’t there now.I know this doesn’t mean anything but I think strange he never had any photos on there of her or ever spoke of her.
There’s no photos online either except the award type ones.
There were comments (ages ago) under some of his pics from people saying things like ‘these are those guys who came back to our hotel’ now removed, maybe innocent comments but looking like they were stirring the pot for him.

 

[LaraQ]

This is probably irrelevant to this now but I followed NC on instagram
And didn’t even realise he was married still he never ever ever had a photo of his wife on there until February this year. Which isn’t there now.I know this doesn’t mean anything but I think strange he never had any photos on there of her or ever spoke of her.
There’s no photos online either except the award type ones.
There were comments (ages ago) under some of his pics from people saying things like ‘these are those guys who came back to our hotel’ now removed, maybe innocent comments but looking like they were stirring the pot for him.

Speaking of his wife,it'll be interesting to see if she stands by him.I don't see how she can after all this.

 

[Emmie81]

This is probably irrelevant to this now but I followed NC on instagram
And didn’t even realise he was married still he never ever ever had a photo of his wife on there until February this year. Which isn’t there now.I know this doesn’t mean anything but I think strange he never had any photos on there of her or ever spoke of her.
There’s no photos online either except the award type ones.
There were comments (ages ago) under some of his pics from people saying things like ‘these are those guys who came back to our hotel’ now removed, maybe innocent comments but looking like they were stirring the pot for him.

he has a private account (FB) with his family on that, a work colleague is mates with or old school chums - no clue which it is.

 

[Sazbee]

Speaking of his wife,it'll be interesting to see if she stands by him.I don't see how she can after all this.

I'd be running and wouldn't look back. Poor children.

 

[WadieHaddadsChocolates]

Speaking of his wife,it'll be interesting to see if she stands by him.I don't see how she can after all this.

I cannot imagine she didn't have some knowledge this guy was constantly perving on other women in various ways. God knows what their relationship is. I do wonder if she's the type of woman to turn a blind eye because he brings in the income or just hang in there miserably until this kind of public humiliation sets in.