Nigel Farage

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Baby Giraffe said:
Lots of people migrating from one area to another can be a problem, even if it is just from the next village however the thing that annoys me the most is the blame that is put on the people moving for stretching resources when nobody in a position of influence cared enough about the people that were already there which is why things were stretched to thinly already.
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I think that’s one of the issues- the levels of immigration are mainly hurting the most vulnerable and poor in the country, but nobody cares about them :( This whole country just seems a mess and it’s a mix of austerity, the rich getting richer and levels of immigration that are too high. I don’t think anyone’s JUST blaming immigrants, but it is an element.

That’s a reason why Nigel is popular- he does actually go and talk to people and engage with them, be chatty etc. Rishi, Starmer etc just do a photoshoot and walk off. It may well be fake, but people like it!
 
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Phil Anne Throw Pee said:
^ I wasn't comparing Farage to Fred West in any way whatsoever. I was making the point that if you're claiming that UKIP isn't far right, that is akin to saying that Fred West was a nice chap. i.e. nonsense.
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Ok, but most people associate Fred West with being a serial killer and not a nice man, so when a comparison is made with people who aren't murderers it's over the top imo. If you think that UKIP is far right then I don't have a problem with that, but most people would say for example the BNP was far right and quite rightly banned if they were dangerous so if UKIP were far right wouldn't they be banned?
 
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susan1375 said:
Shame we/ Clayton are stuck with him as an MP till the next election. Has he been near there or helped any of them since they elected him to save them? Wonder what will happen if Trump wins, will he want to negotiate or include his bestie F in conferences etc?
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As far as I am aware Nigel has been MIA in Clacton. He sent a tweet saying he was sorry about the fire in Jaywick and would be there as soon as he could, but reports suggest he has gone back to his luxury flat in Brussels And he hasn’t been seen.
Trump doesn’t care about him, when Farage went over to the Republican Conference to “support” his good friend Trump after the shooting, Trump didn’t even meet with him briefly 🤣
 
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soph30 said:
100%, actually agree with all of this :)

I’ve got to say I didn’t know all the details about AT though- I guess I’m not his target market. A boomer like Nige is unlikely to either despite him being male
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I'm mid 50s and female so definitely not hos target audience but have heard and read plenty about AT, he's horrendous and I'm quite sure Farage knows only too well well what he says.
 
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Gosh, who do I believe, your parents or mine and other friends of theirs. This went on in London when they came over.
 
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PeteM said:
Well the people of Clacton sure won't see anything get better. Nigel's a disruptor and he loves exploiting people, like all the mugs who've paid £25 to be a "member" of Reform, a limited company with Nigel being the main shareholder, filling up his bank account.
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It's a shame for any constituency represented by Reform imo. A lot of them don't seem to be local to their constituencies and while immigration may be a big problem in them (I assume that's why they voted Reform), it's hardly the only problem
 
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Helephant said:
Or the research on it which always comes up empty handed, on which there are countless articles. You aren't the only one with Irish family, sorry reality doesn't suit.
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If it's true and so widely experienced ask yourself how it has escaped all documentation? There's one sign that is always used to accompany such articles/claims, and no source for it. Some people swear blind they've seen Nessie and aliens.
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And some people claim Farage isn’t a racist, but unfortunately there’s no accounting for idiots.
The signs in the windows may not have been true, ( although I believe there were plenty of “No Navvies”, ie Irish signs )but the lived experiences of people certainly were. My grandfather applied in writing for lodgings in London. They were delighted to give a room to Dr Begotten, and he was delighted too, as it was within walking distance of the hospital he was working in. The delight lasted until he knocked on the door, greeted them in the warmest of Irish accents only to receive the news that his room had already been let- to an Englishman.
And surely you don’t need to be told that people from the West Indies were treated like absolute shit when they came here.
 
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sue22 said:
Sorry..not so sure about him. One trial when he kept giving up so quickly. I wonder how much there is behind his ‘chat’. Talk is cheap…
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His grift is being an antagonist - that's all there is.

I still find it hilarious that so many of his supporters were up in arms over the whole Coutts thing - when you can afford to bank there, you ain't no man of the people.
 
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soph30 said:
The BLM movement is controversial. It's not just about being anti racist, it's got political undertones. Describing those who defend it as 'anti racist' is topical. I don't really want to go into the history of slavery here as it's a bit off topic, but that poster held below is quite negative and aggressive. It doesn't look like a peaceful anti racist protest, it looks pretty inflammatory. He's not criticising anti racism, he's criticising BLM.

''But Mr Farage , former leader of the Brexit Party, described the scenes as “terrifying,” likening protesters to a “paramilitary-like force.”

“This is what the BLM movement wanted from the start and it will divide our society like never before,” he said on social media. ''

That's not really a 'slur'. He's not commenting on a group of black people walking peacefully and saying they're terrifying, he's commenting on scenes like the one below.
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I don’t agree with BLM and nor do a lot of people I know, including some black people. Sad times that you can be accused of being racist because you don’t agree with aggressive, threatening, intimidating twats. BBC manipulated the photos a lot, I remember one in particular that shocked me was a black fella looking like a hero in a photo but the uncropped photo showed him brandishing a knife/machete. It was then that I realised I’d been a fool.
 
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Piff paff puff said:
Ok, but most people associate Fred West with being a serial killer and not a nice man, so when a comparison is made with people who aren't murderers it's over the top imo. If you think that UKIP is far right then I don't have a problem with that, but most people would say for example the BNP was far right and quite rightly banned if they were dangerous so if UKIP were far right wouldn't they be banned?
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UKIP doesn't even exist any more afaik as its only aim was Brexit. It's now Reform UK. So it's just calling Brexit far right 😂

Nigel's flaw really is that he's power and money hungry and does stupid, greedy things. He's not perfect by any means. But he's not a monster.
 
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