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Also we don’t know if she does or does not have MH issues or any other issues going on behind the scenes. Paul knows her the best. IF for example she does, and it was very much unlike her to not be home, and if he was worried about it more than others would be, then of course he would call the police straight away. We don’t know what she was going through. He does. He called her 3 times when she wasn’t home by 10am or something. That to me is excessive, but to him it may have been very concerning for whatever reasons. We don’t know whether he may feel he has to keep an eye on her more than other partners do.
 
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Yes I said this the other day as well. As a ND person it annoys me to know that if my partner went missing, I would 100% be deemed guilty by all of these armchair behavioural psychologists just based on my facial expressions and the way I speak.
I'd probably be the same. I also remember half laughing with shock when I was told my best friend's mother had passed away, as it was so sudden. It wasn't in front of my best friend thankfully!
 
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I don't know why this is in my head tonight, and I apologise if its been covered previously, but after reading the (absolutely amazing) recap 👏 -

I would really like to know where the 9.30am phone finder went and if that appointment was verified
And
Where the daughter in law that took the call was from her taking the call until 10.50am

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I don’t think any of that information is privy to the public, rightly so. In fact I don’t think (I may be wrong) that the police ever verified that it was the caravans owner who found Willow and the phone and that that information came via the internet.

There does seem to have been quite a long time between the lady finding Willow and tying her up, and her daughter in law coming back to the scene. It’s not great, but I think there are lots of ways to explain that (appointments, getting kids ready, work meetings, needing to pop to the shops first etc) and maybe the message wasn’t relayed with a great sense of urgency? Who knows.
 
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Please read the recap if you are not up to date
Please don't be offended if you ask a question that's answered here and you're directed back to the recap rather than given a full answer.

Timeline:
0826 Nicola left home with her children and dog
0840 Nicola dropped her children at school and spoke briefly to another parent
0843 Nicola was seen walking along the path by the river towards the bench into the lower field
0847 (approx) Nicola was seen in the lower field by another dog walker. The dogs interacted and this dog walker knows Nicola
0853 Nicola sent an email to her boss
0859 Nicola sent a message to a friend
0901 Nicola joined a zoom team meeting - her phone was muted and her camera was off meaning her colleagues did not see or hear anything
0910 Nicola was seen in the upper field by another dog walker
0920 Nicola's phone was back in the area of the bench - this is confirmed by the Police through phone data
0930 the Zoom call ended but Nicola remained logged in
0933 Nicola's phone, along with Willow, the harness and lead were found at the bench area. The phone was on the bench; the harness was on the ground further down the bank towards the river (confirmed by Paul during Channel 5 Interview)
1050 Willow and the phone were still at the bench area. Paul was alerted and called the Police

The phone was still connected to Nicola's zoom call which had ended at 0930.
Willow (Nicola's dog) was loose in this area.

This video shows the small distance between gate, bench and river:


Doorbell footage has been shared of Nicola leaving home the morning she went missing to show the clothing she wore.
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There have been many discussions of whether this is actually Nicola, as some think it looks like her friend Emma. The fact remains that Nicola took her girls to school, and that cannot be disputed. Another parent spoke to her at school, and one of the sightings on the walk was someone who knew her personally.

There is some confusion over who loaded Willow into the car. During the Channel 5 interview Paul stated that if he was doing the school run and dog walk Nicola would load the girls and dog into the car, and vice versa, but that day Nicola was ready earlier than usual and she had them in the car already, even though she was the one taking them to school. He did not know why this was, just that Nicola was more organised that morning and ready earlier than usual.

Nicola parked at school, dropped her daughters off, and started the walk from there as usual.
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The fact that Willow's harness was off is normal - it was usually removed at the gate by the bench at the start of the walk, and put back on on the way back to the car.

Willow was dry when found, meaning that she had not at any point that morning been in the water. This has been discussed at great length over the threads so please search for it if you would like to understand more, or read this post for the quick version: https://tattle.life/threads/nicola-bulley-7.37276/post-13925742

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The lady who found them is believed to be the owner of Wyreside Farm Caravan Park which is very close to the bench and area that Nicola is thought to have entered to the river. This is not the same caravan site as the broken or non-functioning CCTV.
The lady secured Willow - apparently with string (we do not know why, when the harness and lead were there) - and left as she had an appointment. She recognised the dog but couldn't remember who the owner was, so called her daughter in law.
At 1050 the daughter in law attended the bench area and identified both Willow and the Lock Screen photo on the phone as Nicola's. She called Nicola's daughters' school, who in turn called Nicola's partner, Paul.
There is much speculation but no facts for the gap in time here.
Paul left home by car, calling the Police on the way to report Nicola as missing.
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Caravan Parks & Campsites
There has been confusion over the caravan parks:
Wyreside is a campsite near to the bench. The owner is alleged to have found Willow and the phone.
Rowanwater is a mobile home park next to the top field. This is where Nicola was last seen. This is where the broken / non-functioning CCTV is.

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Exits from the walking route are not all covered by CCTV - Rowanwater Mobile Home Park (camera not working) YELLOW and the Garstang Road exit PURPLE. CCTV does cover the riverside path (ORANGE) and the school (GREEN). Police are working to contact all drivers to obtain dashcam footage where possible on the A road but there were around 700 drivers to contact. Nicola's friends held an appeal for dash cam footage here on Friday 10/2.
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Search Efforts
A helicopter with thermal imaging was deployed, and divers were in the river, the day Nicola went missing.
Lancs Police have been using the caravan park as their base. All empty caravans have been searched, as have local empty properties along and near to the riverbank.
Nicola’s family are keeping all possibilities open in the hope of Nicola’s safe return, which is absolutely understandable.
SGI headed by Peter Faulding assisted the search efforts at the request of the family. Unfortunately, they found no trace of Nicola in the area they searched.

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Nicola's partner Paul
Paul has never been named as a suspect. This has always been called a missing person investigation by the Police so there are no suspects.
Paul is the father of Nicola's daughters. The fact her refers to 'the girls' or 'her girls' is irrelevant.
Paul has a mark on his face near his left eye which some think is a bruise; some think is from recent botox. It is visible on old photos seen by more than one person who have looked at Nicola's Facebook posts, so it is not a bruise or botox. It's likely to be pigmentation or a birthmark.

Nicola’s partner's businesses are a frequent question: has a business which is shown on Companies House as ‘compulsory strike off’ just after Nicola’s disappearance. This does not in any way suggest financial difficulties. It purely means the company was already in the process of being closed.
He is director of another company which is still trading, and he works in a skilled industry.
It is explained here https://tattle.life/threads/nicola-bulley-missing-4.37193/post-13873756

There is another previous company which has an address similar to Rowanwater Mobile Home Park. It is not linked to the mobile home park in any way. It is Paul and Nicola's previous house.

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Other / Misc
The area that Nicola walked in has frequently been referred to as a park, and many posters think there will be much local CCTV and Ring doorbell coverage. It is not a park. Nicola's walk was over fields, in the countryside by a village. The only CCTV is on businesses that happen to be there. There is no doorbell footage because there are no houses.

Lancs Police gave an update via press conference on Tuesday 7/2 confirming that they are still focussing huge resource on the search effort and asking the general public to avoid doing anything to make this any more difficult. Transcript here: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-bulley-missing-press-conference-26181487

The police have continuously stated that the most likely situation is that Nicola has sadly somehow entered the water, but they remain open to all possibilities and fully investigate all information they receive. There have been 40 detectives working on the case.

Although the water was only around 2.5-3.5ft deep where Nicola is thought to have fallen in, the bank is high and steep. The police diver had to be helped out.
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Cold water shock can mean that you are incapacitated quickly and silently. Info here: https://www.rya.org.uk/knowledge/safety/look-after-yourself/cold-water-shock

It's also possible that Nicola was unconscious before she entered the water, for example following a medical episode, or that she slipped and hit her head on rocks under the water.

This post gives more information about why a body may not be found in a river: https://tattle.life/threads/nicola-bulley-8.37288/post-13940903

A GoFundMe page was set up on Monday 6/2 by family friend Emma with a target of £100,000. This was quickly changed after social media unrest to £50,000, then £5,000. Shortly after, the page was closed before it raised even £500, and the friend posted on Facebook to state that the family didn’t initially know she was doing it, and she was just trying to help.

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There have been mixed messages about a possible mental health element on previous threads.
Any speculation here about Nicola's mental health should come from a place of concern, not judgement.

Anyone who has struggled, or is struggling, with mental illness knows that at times it is more powerful than anything else and takes over all rational thought. If that has played a part in Nicola going missing (which - to be clear - her family or Police have not suggested) it does not mean that she doesn't love her family, especially her children, more than anything in the world.


Please be mindful of Nicola’s family with any comments made ❤
I’ve not been able to get on here or keep up with the case all weekend and this is a fantastic recap. Great starting point for people just joining! Thank you for putting such time and effort into it.
 
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I know many people are ruling him out based on ‘albi’ but the partner is highly suspicious to me, the fact he keeps appearing in interviews (police encouraging him or he’s enjoying it) he chosen to cover a bruise up he had in one of the earlier interviews, he uses language such as ‘fine out what happened’ almost a challenge to police, there’s also no emotion in his eyes.

Go rewatch Chris Watt’s TV appeal and see the lack of emotion and smirks. Paul had a smirk in his latest interview.

see smirk at 1:09


Good god
 
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I know Louise, Nicola’s sister might be to upset to appear on camera again but why is it Emma all the time and now a neighbour? Nicola’s immediate family need to start stepping in and getting a grip of this because it’s just odd behaviour all around. If I was Louise I wouldn’t be happy at my sisters tarty mate taking centre stage.
 
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So let me get this straight here, he rings the police straight after he's told his wife is missing (as per the recap!) and then he pops upstairs to sort his gym bag out? Or have I grossly misunderstood? 😂
No, I *think* he said he’d tried to call her and got no answer so was going to go up there. Before going he changed into his gym clothes so he could go to the gym straight after. I *think* he got the call from the school after that and then called the police. I’m sure he said he spoke to the police when he was in his car.
 
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No, I *think* he said he’d tried to call her and got no answer so was going to go up there. Before going he change into his gym clothes so he could go to the gym straight after. I *think* he got the call from the school after that and then called the police. I’m sure he said he spoke to the police when he was in his car.
Right that makes more sense. Cause I rememeber from the interview him saying that he was going to have a look for her and assumed she'd be in the car and that's why he was going to go to the gym after. But then I got confused with him ringing the police.

ETA: One thing I will say in all of this though, there's a lot of ringing around before the police actually get called. I can only assume this is small village everyone knows each other shenanigans. I wouldn't be ringing around and then having other people ring around

ETA again: If that's the case then he wasn't alerted at 10:50am then? Cause he didn't ring her a couple of times, go up and get changed, come down and ring the police in 1 minute
 
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Just remembered something from the interview I wanted to ask, what’s the significance (if any) of the fact he phoned, then WhatsApp phoned and then normal phoned again? Why the WhatsApp call in the middle, what’s wrong with just calling? I wouldn’t have thought WhatsApp would be that reliable in a field so calling would suffice
 
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My opinion is she accidentally tripped and fell in. She possibly hit her head on the rocks under the water upon entry (both the police and that Peter guy stated there were rocks near the edge). I think that could have knocked her out, so she'll have gone in and unfortunately drowned silently. The dog may not have even seen it happen, as it would have been quick, and the dog could have been running around and just not noticed. This might be why it was agitated and running from the bench to the gate, looking for her. And also could explain why when Paul took the dog back the following day, it didn't show any form of reaction.
As for why she's not been found, I do think she's probably been taken out to sea by now. A young lad where I live went missing. He'd fallen in the river and after extensive searches, just like for Nicola, he wasn't found. No clothing or personal belongings were found either. But 7 weeks later, his body surfaced miles down stream. I honestly do think the police are right, and this is what's happened.
I agree. Whilst it’s not the most interesting theory swirling around out there, it’s certainly appears the most logical. Part of me selfishly hopes it isn’t the true reason behind her disappearance, purely because it hits home how easily a life can be taken due to something so simple. However, at the same time at least it would’ve been quick and she would’ve fallen victim to any malicious characters. I empathise with her family so much. I know Willow is just a dog, but I can’t imagine how panic-stricken she must’ve been if she didn’t witness what happened to Nicola, as she would’ve been so confused as to why she’s seemingly been abandoned. I’ve seen videos online of how dogs react when the can’t find their owners when out on their walks and it’s just heartbreaking. Please, if you do let your dog off the leash when out walking with them, ensure they have good recall and keep a close distance to you at all times.

I’ve believed ever since the river was searched by Faulding’s team that she was already well on her way out to sea. The fact the police are now searching Morecambe Bay surely means they think the same? This is why I always found it bizarre when Faulding would completely shut down the idea of her being further downstream or out at sea in interviews.

I have a strong suspicion this case is sadly going to go cold. There’s been no new developments in the past couple of days really, and it’s slowly being fazed out of the news. This means less awareness is being raised about her disappearance so any potential witnesses are less likely to come forward. I think if they ever discover her body it’ll be in a few weeks or months, and will come completely out of the blue.

In fact, it’s ironic that my perspective on this keeps changing on a regular basis, despite there being no new evidence.
 
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I know Louise, Nicola’s sister might be to upset to appear on camera again but why is it Emma all the time and now a neighbour? Nicola’s immediate family need to start stepping in and getting a grip of this because it’s just odd behaviour all around. If I was Louise I wouldn’t be happy at my sisters tarty mate taking centre stage.
Sorry but calling Emma her “sister’s tarty mate” is totally unnecessary.
 
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I know Louise, Nicola’s sister might be to upset to appear on camera again but why is it Emma all the time and now a neighbour? Nicola’s immediate family need to start stepping in and getting a grip of this because it’s just odd behaviour all around. If I was Louise I wouldn’t be happy at my sisters tarty mate taking centre stage.
maybe they are being kept at arms length? maybe they respect what advice they are being given by the Police? or maybe they find it to upsetting? who knows!
 
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Just remembered something from the interview I wanted to ask, what’s the significance (if any) of the fact he phoned, then WhatsApp phoned and then normal phoned again? Why the WhatsApp call in the middle, what’s wrong with just calling? I wouldn’t have thought WhatsApp would be that reliable in a field so calling would suffice
I know I sometimes send my husband a message on FB messenger and because it shows as unread, I then send the same message via text and he replies immediately. I do that because I know his notification sound is louder and more distinct on his text messages than FB messenger so he’s more likely to hear it.

It could be as simple as that, especially as she didn’t answer the first time.
 
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I don't think it's sinister at all personally I just think it needs clearing up. How was their communication, did he not know why she was so organised that morning or why she put the kids/dogs in the car? It's not like he was still in bed...mind you I'm not married, I have no idea how much spouses (or long-term partners) communicate! It just seems like something they'd have had to communicate about since it means the other person doesn't need to do something they normally would. I mean all this stuff was asked of him in the interview, it's just he didn't really answer what exactly happened that morning did he? And he didn't say "I can't remember" he just kind of glossed over it and talked about the usual schedule that happened most days. We don't know their breakfast routine or anything, like did they have any sort of conversation or was she just straight off? It could be something like she was in a bad mood or they'd had an argument and understandably he doesn't want to mention it because that would arose suspicion. Or maybe he was just so laid back (although I don't get that impression tbh) he didn't notice.
Was he actually at home that morning has that been confirmed? That might stretch the timeline?? In that he could have been waiting in the top field.

could he have thrown her in river and doesn’t want her found as she might not have drowned. Who knows.

I guess we will eventually have the answers.
 
Right that makes more sense. Cause I rememeber from the interview him saying that he was going to have a look for her and assumed she'd be in the car and that's why he was going to go to the gym after. But then I got confused with him ringing the police.

ETA: One thing I will say in all of this though, there's a lot of ringing around before the police actually get called. I can only assume this is small village everyone knows each other shenanigans. I wouldn't be ringing around and then having other people ring around

ETA again: If that's the case then he wasn't alerted at 10:50am then? Cause he didn't ring her a couple of times, go up and get changed, come down and ring the police in 1 minute
I was thinking from what I read, if he was enjoying peace from 9am to 10am as he works for a US company so doesn't start till 10am, then how is he already planning to go to the gym mid morning ? Surely he has only just started his working day
 
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Just remembered something from the interview I wanted to ask, what’s the significance (if any) of the fact he phoned, then WhatsApp phoned and then normal phoned again? Why the WhatsApp call in the middle, what’s wrong with just calling? I wouldn’t have thought WhatsApp would be that reliable in a field so calling would suffice
he maybe tried a what's app video call.
 
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I know I sometimes send my husband a message on FB messenger and because it shows as unread, I then send the same message via text and he replies immediately. I do that because I know his notification sound is louder and more distinct on his text messages than FB messenger so he’s more likely to hear it.

It could be as simple as that, especially as she didn’t answer the first time.
Yeah sometimes if you ring or text on phone network it doesn't work / goes to voice mail but the person has WiFi/ data coverage so a WhatsApp message or call connects. Also, if I was ringing on "normal" phone, I would then maybe try WhatsApp on video call or vice versa
 
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