She’s had that for ages though, this situation is new. So stands to reason they are looking for what has changed. Likely progression but even then, it’s not so easy to identify the exact cause especially when an illness is so widespread. They could have tried lots of things and they not be working so they could still be perplexed. Also she could know very well and just not be saying so.How can they not know the cause? I don't know shit about cancer but surely it's down to having bones riddled with cancer?
Because, IMO and in my brief stint into viewing these health "influencers", I've finally come to realise there is a significant disconnect between viewers and IG /YT content creators.Explain why she owes her followers no explanation ? I’d love to know your thought process?
no, you are missing the point im afraid.Because, IMO and in my brief stint into viewing these health "influencers", I've finally come to realise there is a significant disconnect between viewers and IG /YT content creators.
They (mostly) treat content as an advertising "job", whilst we become emotionally invested in the individual and their personal struggles.
Mostly for them, outside of the adulation and compensation factors, they can take us or leave us at a whim. Their loyalty isn't to us, it's to their benefactors. Her GFM is for a "living list". Well, she ensures she includes her fancy holidays to show that those funds are hard at work.
Is it right? Is it fair? Depends on your understanding of the disparate positions we hold. If you view the entire relationship from NNL's perspective, she's no more than an actress promoting various products through her cancer narrative and by cultivating as many sheep as possible. We don't expect actresses we see in product commercials to update us on their lives. To them, they are being paid to promote products and that's the extent which ends at the conclusion of the commercial. They are paid to sell us a narrative to capture our interest, whether it has included personal factors to persuade us or not. I believe that's how NNL views us.
To me, she doesnt "owe" me anything as that's not her modus operandi. I shouldn't expect something it was never her intention to give. Her content has been a means to an end to produce a financial stream. She therefore would not feel she ever "owed" her viewers a health update once she's satisfied the terms of her contracts of using her narrative to sell products. Her obligation is to her financial backers, not to the consumers.
That's how I've come to view this relationship. It helps to make sense why I should not "expect" anything from her since her loyalty and narrative are geared towards how best to capitalise on her advertising relationships. It has absolutely nothing to do with producing an authentic, timely biography which, sadly, is what her viewers actually want.
Because, IMO and in my brief stint into viewing these health "influencers", I've finally come to realise there is a significant disconnect between viewers and IG /YT content creators.
They (mostly) treat content as an advertising "job", whilst we become emotionally invested in the individual and their personal struggles.
Mostly for them, outside of the adulation and compensation factors, they can take us or leave us at a whim. Their loyalty isn't to us, it's to their benefactors. Her GFM is for a "living list". Well, she ensures she includes her fancy holidays to show that those funds are hard at work.
Is it right? Is it fair? Depends on your understanding of the disparate positions we hold. If you view the entire relationship from NNL's perspective, she's no more than an actress promoting various products through her cancer narrative and by cultivating as many sheep as possible. We don't expect actresses we see in product commercials to update us on their lives. To them, they are being paid to promote products and that's the extent which ends at the conclusion of the commercial. They are paid to sell us a narrative to capture our interest, whether it has included personal factors to persuade us or not. I believe that's how NNL views us.
To me, she doesnt "owe" me anything as that's not her modus operandi. I shouldn't expect something it was never her intention to give. Her content has been a means to an end to produce a financial stream. She therefore would not feel she ever "owed" her viewers a health update once she's satisfied the terms of her contracts of using her narrative to sell products. Her obligation is to her financial backers, not to the consumers.
That's how I've come to view this relationship. It helps to make sense why I should not "expect" anything from her since her loyalty and narrative are geared towards how best to capitalise on her advertising relationships. It has absolutely nothing to do with producing an authentic, timely biography which, sadly, is what her viewers actually want.
Maybe some people have taken this as “suzeq agrees with this” rather than “this is the way it is, and suzeq is just calling a spade a spade…”Because, IMO and in my brief stint into viewing these health "influencers", I've finally come to realise there is a significant disconnect between viewers and IG /YT content creators.
They (mostly) treat content as an advertising "job", whilst we become emotionally invested in the individual and their personal struggles.
Mostly for them, outside of the adulation and compensation factors, they can take us or leave us at a whim. Their loyalty isn't to us, it's to their benefactors. Her GFM is for a "living list". Well, she ensures she includes her fancy holidays to show that those funds are hard at work.
Is it right? Is it fair? Depends on your understanding of the disparate positions we hold. If you view the entire relationship from NNL's perspective, she's no more than an actress promoting various products through her cancer narrative and by cultivating as many sheep as possible. We don't expect actresses we see in product commercials to update us on their lives. To them, they are being paid to promote products and that's the extent which ends at the conclusion of the commercial. They are paid to sell us a narrative to capture our interest, whether it has included personal factors to persuade us or not. I believe that's how NNL views us.
To me, she doesnt "owe" me anything as that's not her modus operandi. I shouldn't expect something it was never her intention to give. Her content has been a means to an end to produce a financial stream. She therefore would not feel she ever "owed" her viewers a health update once she's satisfied the terms of her contracts of using her narrative to sell products. Her obligation is to her financial backers, not to the consumers.
That's how I've come to view this relationship. It helps to make sense why I should not "expect" anything from her since her loyalty and narrative are geared towards how best to capitalise on her advertising relationships. It has absolutely nothing to do with producing an authentic, timely biography which, sadly, is what her viewers actually want.
I agree with all this too - it's another strand to my argument above and definitely not mutually exclusive to it. The sad thing is though, a pretty good percentage of her followers do feel a connection with her, especially those who are struggling with ill health, and that's just off the charts awful for them to be manipulated in that way. Unfortunately not everyone out there is a critical thinker and they're prime fodder for pawns in the game.Maybe some people have taken this as “suzeq agrees with this” rather than “this is the way it is, and suzeq is just calling a spade a spade…”
Well that’s how I see it anyway. Nicky is an actress, nothing more nothing less. In HER mind, she owes the people engaging with her content nothing. Whether we agree or disagree with that, is irrelevant because it still doesn’t change the fact that she doesn’t give two hoots about her followers, and it’s all about the money.
I couldn’t care less whether she updates or not to be honest. She doesn’t give a shit about me, so why would I? I don’t know about any of you, but I’ve never felt more empty than listening to Nicky update her stories with “How are we all?”
I even saw a post from Lauren Mahon yesterday asking for suggestions about “content.” It made my stomach lurch. Imagine living in a world, where you felt a connection to someone on social media, based on a post you came across— only to find out they viewed that post as “content.”
They are basically waiving a big flag that says IM MANIPULATING YOU right in your damn face.
Sure, they are all at it. “Content Creator” is a popular title it seems.
This is the game on social media, but it will never sit right with me.
We are talking the same language. And this is why, when I hear “content creators” talking about “safe spaces” and “community” I know it’s time to run. The fact is, social media isn’t safe if you are in a vulnerable place. It just isn’t. Especially if there is money being donated or purchases made on a regular basis to the same person. And it’s not a “community” if the money only flows one way. Like you said, this conversation is nuanced, and needs more analysis then I have the inclination for. But sadly I’d say MOST people are not critical thinkers. That’s humanity. You could spell it out to them, and they still wouldn’t be able to see it, or even WANT to see it. But the “Nickys” of the world sure do know how to benefit from these people.I agree with all this too - it's another strand to my argument above and definitely not mutually exclusive to it. The sad thing is though, a pretty good percentage of her followers do feel a connection with her, especially those who are struggling with ill health, and that's just off the charts awful for them to be manipulated in that way. Unfortunately not everyone out there is a critical thinker and they're prime fodder for pawns in the game.
Yes, this is just how I've come to reconcile why I'm left expecting more from these people who have shared such a compelling narrative that really makes me WANT to know how they are doing as I'm really rooting for them. That was their business objective.Nicky is an actress, nothing more nothing less. In HER mind, she owes the people engaging with her content nothing. Whether we agree or disagree with that, is irrelevant because it still doesn’t change the fact that she doesn’t give two hoots about her followers, and it’s all about the money.
Isn't that it, right out there clear as day.I even saw a post from Lauren Mahon yesterday asking for suggestions about “content.” It made my stomach lurch. Imagine living in a world, where you felt a connection to someone on social media, based on a post you came across— only to find out they viewed that post as “content.”
They are basically waiving a big flag that says IM MANIPULATING YOU right in your damn face.
Sure, they are all at it. “Content Creator” is a popular title it seems.
This is the game on social media, but it will never sit right with me.
I understood where you were coming from. Getting people to “want more” from them was always the plan. They have carefully constructed, and engineered a “character” out of themselves which makes people feel a sense of fascination towards them. They can’t get the money if they don’t get the masses to be fascinated with them FIRST. It’s why she ignores, deletes and blocks people without a second thought.Yes, this is just how I've come to reconcile why I'm left expecting more from these people who have shared such a compelling narrative that really makes me WANT to know how they are doing as I'm really rooting for them. That was their business objective.
I think your view is spot on. This sounds like the most plausible explanation of her weird behaviours.I don't believe she's EOL at all (most likely trying to get an infection under control like others have said). She's just limited in what she can post while she's in hospital because she can't be real, she never has been, so she's using the long pauses, vague responses and 'ask me' boxes as techniques to keep her engagement score high (which is actually quite challenging for her as she has a high number of followers) so that she can get back to the real business of grifting when she's out of hospital.
I feel so uncharitable with this view but she's done absolutely nothing over the last week or so to make me think any differently.
Bb did this and my god, towards the end she looked so ill and yet still ADs. Awful.We have now officially entered black mirror when people are flogging crap from their hospital room
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Yep. It’s vile isn’t it? Oh look p, says the sales company, she’s go blah blah number of followers an she’s dying let’s send her something so she can advertise to all those followers for the price of one measly dress and we’ll sell out!I will never, ever buy from a brand that sends a dying woman 'gifts' which are nothing more than exploitation for exposure. It's absolutely sick. Send her the dress and stipulate you don't want tagging, it's a gift nothing more. But ads make me sick. I know they all justify it as helping them still generate income but we all know it's nothing to do with that.
That’s when my opinion of BowelBabe changed the most. I just couldn’t understand why she was doing it??? It beggars belief!Bb did this and my god, towards the end she looked so ill and yet still ADs. Awful.
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