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Oh I’m so glad it’s not just me who’s found after care tit. I had quite a few episodes of reduced movement and then got covid towards the end and I couldn’t stop singing the hospitals praises, they couldn’t do enough for me when I was pregnant. I feel like as soon as I’ve had her nobody cares anymore, I even spoke to my midwife about how rubbish I’ve been feeling and my mental health and she discharged me and set up a call with a mental health nurse which was then cancelled and now isn’t until the end of March!
I want to breastfeed but her latch is dire and my nipples end up blistered and bleeding so I’m mostly expressing and using formula and she goes on the boob a few times a day with a shield, but really it’s more of a comfort than a feed.
I naively just assumed I’d be able to breastfeed and knew it would take some work but I’m 5 weeks in now and it’s still awful!
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It’s been awful! I feel like I can’t get anyone to listen or help without it having a domino effect. I’ve spent so much time glued to my phone googling stuff.
My supply isn’t terrible, I express with a pump a few times a day and make 2/3 120ml bottles. Not enough to not have to have formula too though. She goes on the boob a few times a day but it’s more a cuddle/comfort than a feed.
Omeprazole sounds a good way to go then, I’ll try and contact the GP again and see if they’ll give us that.
Its all so frustrating!
Demand it haha. My GP was fine but I’ve read other GPs not giving it. I just said gaviscon not working so they prescribed it. It’s not an instant fix, there’s an acid battle to begin with so it can get worse before it gets better and I nearly gave up. Can take a few weeks to see things settle for baby. When coming off it they generally need weaning off it too, but not always the case.
 
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Oh I’m so glad it’s not just me who’s found after care tit. I had quite a few episodes of reduced movement and then got covid towards the end and I couldn’t stop singing the hospitals praises, they couldn’t do enough for me when I was pregnant. I feel like as soon as I’ve had her nobody cares anymore, I even spoke to my midwife about how rubbish I’ve been feeling and my mental health and she discharged me and set up a call with a mental health nurse which was then cancelled and now isn’t until the end of March!
I want to breastfeed but her latch is dire and my nipples end up blistered and bleeding so I’m mostly expressing and using formula and she goes on the boob a few times a day with a shield, but really it’s more of a comfort than a feed.
I naively just assumed I’d be able to breastfeed and knew it would take some work but I’m 5 weeks in now and it’s still awful!
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BF is hard I stopped after a week as she destroyed me ☹ I tried to express but I just wasn’t getting enough. She’s been bottle fed since. Her latch was awful, she also has a small mouth (with a tight jaw so the osteopath has been working on releasing her tension and it’s now gone) she literally doesn’t open her mouth to receive a bottle and then the tongue tie and a bubble palette.
i explained all of this to HV and they didn’t do anything just kept weighing her even dismissing the TT and making me feel like I was failing. I’ve been thinking and my mum has suggested it too to write a letter of complaint. My mental health was/is awful and I’ve never taken anti depressants in my life until now. The system is really failing new mothers.
You’re doing great you shouldn’t have to fight to be heard but sadly you do. Just keep pushing.
not sure if it’s an option but there are private latch specialists. Where I went the TT snip was £175 and latch consultation etc was £100 and she was brilliant. Prices may varydepending On where you live. She was the best help I’ve had!!! X
 
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Feeling so frustrated and lost with feeding, so desperately wanted to breastfeed but we’ve really struggled.
I had an elective section (I have past PTSD from an assault that also caused vaginismus) and had the worst experience on the maternity ward the day after, they basically rushed me out and filled in my discharge paperwork wrong meaning I didn’t get the support I was meant to from the breastfeeding team.
I pushed for support with breastfeeding and annoyingly only got it when my partner called. Aoife was diagnosed with a posterior tongue tie at 2 weeks which we had snipped, breastfeeding support continued and they discharged me because they said she had a good latch (on one boob, with a shield). We’ve been supplementing with formula the whole way through.
Then she started with reflux, health visitor advised we saw the GP, the first one was useless and the second one gave us carobel and gaviscon to use in conjunction. He also told me to just express milk, and that you “can’t treat reflux in breastfed babies” which I know is wrong but I’m still struggling anyway.
My health visitor asked another breastfeeding specialist to come visit as Aoife had lost 3oz, she then told us that you should NEVER use gaviscon and carobel together. Frustrating as that’s what the doctor had prescribed and seemed to be helping, but now I don’t want to. She also said she still has her tongue tie and will re-apply for it to be snipped, but our hospital will only do them before 6 weeks and she’ll be 5 weeks on Monday and the lady that does them is off!
Also then got a phone call later saying she wants to send her for a late jaundice blood test, even though she isn’t showing any signs, and my midwife and health visitor have said her jaundice is gone.
I just don’t know what to do, I don’t want her to be in pain and just want her to be okay. ☹
I am so sorry things have been so tough for you. You’re amazing that through it all you are continuing to persevere with breastfeeding. The others have already given such wonderful advice, just sending love and solidarity. X
 
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I don’t know if this is normal but little crazy cat has developed a strong attachment to me. Which I know is normal im her mother and main care provider. She literally doesn’t stop looking at me or following me around the room. If my husbands holding her she’s looking at me. It’s got to the stage where she doesn’t really feed for him and gets really stressed out (could be partly him being unfamiliar with her difficulties) but I have to step in and finish the job. Weve always socialised her with family, taken her out for food, coffee walks etc but recently if either of the grandparents hold her or were out with more then just us two her bottom lip keeps going and she’s all sad. As soon as we get home she’s fine.
i don’t want her to feel unsettled around others or when out. I don’t know where it’s come from all of a minute and how to stop it.
 
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I don’t know if this is normal but little crazy cat has developed a strong attachment to me. Which I know is normal im her mother and main care provider. She literally doesn’t stop looking at me or following me around the room. If my husbands holding her she’s looking at me. It’s got to the stage where she doesn’t really feed for him and gets really stressed out (could be partly him being unfamiliar with her difficulties) but I have to step in and finish the job. Weve always socialised her with family, taken her out for food, coffee walks etc but recently if either of the grandparents hold her or were out with more then just us two her bottom lip keeps going and she’s all sad. As soon as we get home she’s fine.
i don’t want her to feel unsettled around others or when out. I don’t know where it’s come from all of a minute and how to stop it.
I think they go through phases. I make a conscious effort of passing baby tango to my brother/mum and sister in law. Funnily enough she is obsessed with mr tango. I am merely her milk provider and bum wiper 🙃 if I do the same thing that he is doing to make her laugh I get a dirty look 👍
 
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I don’t know if this is normal but little crazy cat has developed a strong attachment to me. Which I know is normal im her mother and main care provider. She literally doesn’t stop looking at me or following me around the room. If my husbands holding her she’s looking at me. It’s got to the stage where she doesn’t really feed for him and gets really stressed out (could be partly him being unfamiliar with her difficulties) but I have to step in and finish the job. Weve always socialised her with family, taken her out for food, coffee walks etc but recently if either of the grandparents hold her or were out with more then just us two her bottom lip keeps going and she’s all sad. As soon as we get home she’s fine.
i don’t want her to feel unsettled around others or when out. I don’t know where it’s come from all of a minute and how to stop it.
Same here!! If someone has told of her she’ll just stare at me and she’ll only smile at other people if I’m holding her. If they hold her, she’ll pull her bottom lip down at them and look at me and smile. I read it’s normal for about 4 months for them to be like this. Hopefully it’ll be a phase and just continue to have your partner feed and spend time with her and others hold her.
with me because I breast feed andso partner can’t feed her and because we co sleep I’m hoping she does grow out of it. She will be happy with some other people like grandparents.

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Hi everyone, first time posting in this thread. I had my baby boy on Thursday morning, stayed one night in hospital and have been home since. I’m sure this is really common, but I’m literally not getting any sleep and I don’t know how much longer I can do this, I’m so scared of falling asleep with him in my arms but I’m exhausted. He is content Aslong as he’s being held, but as soon as he’s put down he won’t settle and cries, then the moment he’s picked up again he’s fine. I’m also trying to BF so I’m the one who’s up with him all night. I’m having a couple of naps during the day, but they are about an hour long if that. Does anyone have any tips for settling a newborn in the early days? We have a next to me crib but he won’t go in it 😣
 
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Hi everyone, first time posting in this thread. I had my baby boy on Thursday morning, stayed one night in hospital and have been home since. I’m sure this is really common, but I’m literally not getting any sleep and I don’t know how much longer I can do this, I’m so scared of falling asleep with him in my arms but I’m exhausted. He is content Aslong as he’s being held, but as soon as he’s put down he won’t settle and cries, then the moment he’s picked up again he’s fine. I’m also trying to BF so I’m the one who’s up with him all night. I’m having a couple of naps during the day, but they are about an hour long if that. Does anyone have any tips for settling a newborn in the early days? We have a next to me crib but he won’t go in it 😣
Hey!! Congratulations and welcome over to this thread 🤗

Ooh remember these days “fondly”. So so hard!! And because you’re breastfeeding your baby is cluster feeding at night to boost your supplies so it is really really exhausting.

I also had a baby who wouldn’t be put down- she’d wake up straight away and I was falling asleep with her at 3/4 am and in the end (don’t want to scare you) nothing worked and I had to co sleep. Only way we could get any sleep and that I didn’t fall asleep with her.

This however is the fourth trimester- baby is still very attached to you. Baby is safe and comfortable and warm with you. Baby still thinks you’re the same person. Really human babies should still be in the womb we just come early because of our big heads. When baby is put down they go into survival mode. Snuggles and cuddles are all they want. However when it gets to the point you’re exhausted that’s no good for you or baby.

Things that didn’t work for us but could work for you-

Keep preserving putting him down after feeds- don’t leave to cry- pick back up- comfort and put down- in a dark quiet room

Making sure where you’re putting him down to sleep is not cold- heat pad or hot water bottle before hand- take them out before putting baby in

White noise- apps or Ewan the sheep or the owl one

A bath- when big enough (does help my baby)

Tummy massage.

Have partner put him down instead of you- baby can smell the milk on you.

Dummy or other comforter.

Any signs of reflux waking baby when you put him down? Even silent reflux- likes he’s chewing on something and chokes a bit? Have where he’s sleeping raised at top side.


I didn’t crack it- my baby is still extremely needy but I really hope something helps. X
 
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Hi everyone, first time posting in this thread. I had my baby boy on Thursday morning, stayed one night in hospital and have been home since. I’m sure this is really common, but I’m literally not getting any sleep and I don’t know how much longer I can do this, I’m so scared of falling asleep with him in my arms but I’m exhausted. He is content Aslong as he’s being held, but as soon as he’s put down he won’t settle and cries, then the moment he’s picked up again he’s fine. I’m also trying to BF so I’m the one who’s up with him all night. I’m having a couple of naps during the day, but they are about an hour long if that. Does anyone have any tips for settling a newborn in the early days? We have a next to me crib but he won’t go in it 😣
Hi congratulations, this first bit is so tough but you can get through it. I’d say you need to persevere with putting him down so that you can try and get some much needed sleep. Swaddling might make him feel safe and cosy when away from you. They say hold them for 10 mins after they’re asleep so they go into deep sleep and then put them down. Doesn’t always work and doesn’t work for everyone but worked now and then for me. Just pick back up if he’s upset and pop him back down and keep trying. It can feel endless but it’s not forever and if you get good sleep associations going you’ll be able to get some sleep. Hope you’re ok x
 
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Hi everyone, first time posting in this thread. I had my baby boy on Thursday morning, stayed one night in hospital and have been home since. I’m sure this is really common, but I’m literally not getting any sleep and I don’t know how much longer I can do this, I’m so scared of falling asleep with him in my arms but I’m exhausted. He is content Aslong as he’s being held, but as soon as he’s put down he won’t settle and cries, then the moment he’s picked up again he’s fine. I’m also trying to BF so I’m the one who’s up with him all night. I’m having a couple of naps during the day, but they are about an hour long if that. Does anyone have any tips for settling a newborn in the early days? We have a next to me crib but he won’t go in it 😣
Congratulations!! ❤

Yesss we had this, our health visitor was amazing she explained it’s because they still have the natural instinct that if they’re put down in the night an Animal would come and eat them. I was really scared about co sleeping but she said that instead of saying don’t sleep with your baby they say learn how to safely co sleep if nothing is working getting them down on their own.
I safely co slept with her for a few weeks and my partner slept in the spare room then suddenly one day she was happy to sleep in the next to me.
I’ve found she changes her preferences all the time so just because he doesn’t like something this week doesn’t mean he won’t next week. The newborn stage felt so intense at the time but it’s over so quickly then I missed it! I hope you get some sleep soon 💖
 
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Hi everyone, first time posting in this thread. I had my baby boy on Thursday morning, stayed one night in hospital and have been home since. I’m sure this is really common, but I’m literally not getting any sleep and I don’t know how much longer I can do this, I’m so scared of falling asleep with him in my arms but I’m exhausted. He is content Aslong as he’s being held, but as soon as he’s put down he won’t settle and cries, then the moment he’s picked up again he’s fine. I’m also trying to BF so I’m the one who’s up with him all night. I’m having a couple of naps during the day, but they are about an hour long if that. Does anyone have any tips for settling a newborn in the early days? We have a next to me crib but he won’t go in it 😣
Ah, I’ve been missing singing the trombolese song since I stopped reading the pregnancy thread!

Im another big fan of cosleeping. My last baby, I wouldn’t have got any sleep at all otherwise. This baby probably would sleep in a Moses basket if I tried, but then I’d have to get out of bed for night feeds and quite frankly I can’t be bothered.

They really try and build up your supply by cluster feeding in these early days - I promise they don’t feed this much forever. Have you tried feeding lying down? Then if your partner is at home on paternity leave, you could get him to keep an eye on baby while you sleep and baby helps themselves. If not, get your partner to hold baby after a feed for a few hours so you can get some decent rest.

It will get better though!
 
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@Crazycatlady18 the attachment is totally normal. It’s nothing to do with not being socialised, it’s normal for a baby to prefer to be with their mother, it’s what nature is all geared towards. At the age of little crazy cat they start to realise that other people ARENT you, and want to be with you. Also, some kids are keener to be close to care givers than others, so maybe it’s partly her personality. My kids have all been very attached to me as babies, but from the age of around 15 months have been happy to spend a day with dad or grandparents, and look forward to seeing them. It doesn’t last forever 😊

@Trombolese congratulations!! The others have given amazing advice already ❤ In the early days resting up a lot (but keeping moving to help that section scar heal!) and just enjoying sitting doing not much are what I would recommend. Cosleeping is also a life saver in our house. It is incredibly hard to suddenly have a baby to look after, after a big operation, and while getting no sleep. These are some of the hardest days, and they can be soul destroying. Be kind to yourself, and remember that some days it’s just about doing what’s needed to survive.
 
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Hi everyone, first time posting in this thread. I had my baby boy on Thursday morning, stayed one night in hospital and have been home since. I’m sure this is really common, but I’m literally not getting any sleep and I don’t know how much longer I can do this, I’m so scared of falling asleep with him in my arms but I’m exhausted. He is content Aslong as he’s being held, but as soon as he’s put down he won’t settle and cries, then the moment he’s picked up again he’s fine. I’m also trying to BF so I’m the one who’s up with him all night. I’m having a couple of naps during the day, but they are about an hour long if that. Does anyone have any tips for settling a newborn in the early days? We have a next to me crib but he won’t go in it 😣
Congratulations! And welcome 😃
I’m sorry I have no advice for you our journeys are different but the new born stage in the first few weeks is so exhausting. You’re trying to recover from birth and deal with a new and very demanding human. The sleep deprivation is rough but like everyone says and it’s so cliche but it does get easier. I’m sure some of the lovely ladies here will have some advice for settling the little one to give you a break x
 
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@Crazycatlady18 baby Goss is the same. She’s always been fine having cuddles with other people but in the past few weeks she just wants me. If I pass her to anyone else (other than my partner) she cries until I take her back. Glad to read on here that it’s a normal phase, like you I was starting to worry that maybe she wasn’t used to other people enough (even though she sees our families/friends loads!)
 
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I don’t know if this is normal but little crazy cat has developed a strong attachment to me. Which I know is normal im her mother and main care provider. She literally doesn’t stop looking at me or following me around the room. If my husbands holding her she’s looking at me. It’s got to the stage where she doesn’t really feed for him and gets really stressed out (could be partly him being unfamiliar with her difficulties) but I have to step in and finish the job. Weve always socialised her with family, taken her out for food, coffee walks etc but recently if either of the grandparents hold her or were out with more then just us two her bottom lip keeps going and she’s all sad. As soon as we get home she’s fine.
i don’t want her to feel unsettled around others or when out. I don’t know where it’s come from all of a minute and how to stop it.
Everleigh will not go to anyone. Although she is fine with her Dad, it depends on the day!
She sees a lot of people but will not be held or go near anyone else
 
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It’s so weird isn’t it. She’s always been fine then in the last week it’s like nah just mum please. Dads ok too so long as I can see mum 😂
 
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I don’t know if this is normal but little crazy cat has developed a strong attachment to me. Which I know is normal im her mother and main care provider. She literally doesn’t stop looking at me or following me around the room. If my husbands holding her she’s looking at me. It’s got to the stage where she doesn’t really feed for him and gets really stressed out (could be partly him being unfamiliar with her difficulties) but I have to step in and finish the job. Weve always socialised her with family, taken her out for food, coffee walks etc but recently if either of the grandparents hold her or were out with more then just us two her bottom lip keeps going and she’s all sad. As soon as we get home she’s fine.
i don’t want her to feel unsettled around others or when out. I don’t know where it’s come from all of a minute and how to stop it.
Baby bean is the same. He is always on the look out for me. In fact, mr bean has him at the moment. I was talking to kid bean walking away and his eyes followed me. I’m taking it though, because as soon as they get to 18 months/ 2 they all abandon me for their dad 😂
He does go to other people, but looks for me if he hears me. He was not impressed with my mum the other day, and she got offended (like an 8 week old knows what he’s doing 🙄)

In other news, Mr B is getting the snip this week. We have 5 kids between us, so I know it’s the right thing to do, but I’m so sad 😭💔 I will never get to have the newborn stage again and the excitement of seeing the positive on a pregnancy test 😭😭
 
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Baby bean is the same. He is always on the look out for me. In fact, mr bean has him at the moment. I was talking to kid bean walking away and his eyes followed me. I’m taking it though, because as soon as they get to 18 months/ 2 they all abandon me for their dad 😂
He does go to other people, but looks for me if he hears me. He was not impressed with my mum the other day, and she got offended (like an 8 week old knows what he’s doing 🙄)

In other news, Mr B is getting the snip this week. We have 5 kids between us, so I know it’s the right thing to do, but I’m so sad 😭💔 I will never get to have the newborn stage again and the excitement of seeing the positive on a pregnancy test 😭😭
I wish my partner would hurry up and contact the doctors about it 😂

Did he have to wait long?
When I asked about it to a midwife, she said the waiting lists are 3 years long!
 
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Baby bean is the same. He is always on the look out for me. In fact, mr bean has him at the moment. I was talking to kid bean walking away and his eyes followed me. I’m taking it though, because as soon as they get to 18 months/ 2 they all abandon me for their dad 😂
He does go to other people, but looks for me if he hears me. He was not impressed with my mum the other day, and she got offended (like an 8 week old knows what he’s doing 🙄)

In other news, Mr B is getting the snip this week. We have 5 kids between us, so I know it’s the right thing to do, but I’m so sad 😭💔 I will never get to have the newborn stage again and the excitement of seeing the positive on a pregnancy test 😭😭
Ahh friend I know how you feel! I had my tubes tied when I had my section, and it makes me so sad knowing no more babies 😭😭😭 I think I’d happily keep popping them out forever if my husband let me 🙈
 
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Baby bean is the same. He is always on the look out for me. In fact, mr bean has him at the moment. I was talking to kid bean walking away and his eyes followed me. I’m taking it though, because as soon as they get to 18 months/ 2 they all abandon me for their dad 😂
He does go to other people, but looks for me if he hears me. He was not impressed with my mum the other day, and she got offended (like an 8 week old knows what he’s doing 🙄)

In other news, Mr B is getting the snip this week. We have 5 kids between us, so I know it’s the right thing to do, but I’m so sad 😭💔 I will never get to have the newborn stage again and the excitement of seeing the positive on a pregnancy test 😭😭
Awww I know I keep thinking maybe I should have another and then I remember how much I hated giving birth and I say no. 😂
Also I’m not getting any younger and if I did have another (not yet im too exhausted from this one) I’ll be pushing 37 so I don’t know if the odds will be in my favour
 
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