Misbehaving
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Excellent post @missmickey and I agree with every word. The problem is because Nadia defines herself by her physicality and also her fertility, and sense of feminine abundance,(coughs) regularly spouting off on such issues as (we know) giving birth, and the menopause or body inclusivity etc etc.Ronaldo & Georgina's Devastating Loss Gets Nadia to Emotionally Open Up About Her Miscarriages | LW - YouTube
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I'm surprised that Nadia Sawalha is so surprised that football supporters - MEN - can empathise with stillbirth.Despite the fact that Kaye introduces LW Sunetra as a massive Liverpool fan. I'm surprised because Nadia Sawalha has been happily married
to the most empathetic of new men for twenty years now.
In short, Mark Adderley is a man who understands the female condition inside out, so long as the sl*t isn't wearing red lipstick.
- A man who is forever referencing his lesbian feminist mother, in the moments he's not blaming her for his considerable ongoing failings.
- A man who is forever perched at his keyboard primed to defend his daughters' stripping online, having armed them up with zero qualifications.
- A man who is ready and available at the drop of a hat to take the wife's credit card to Sainsburys to stock up on tampons.
- A man whose eyes glaze over at the very mention of HRT.
Nadia Sawalha, along with her dated opinions around gender and childbirth (and everything else), needs to be taken off the TV. Judy Love took the right tone in this segment, whilst Nadia repeated her foetus in the freezer story. Again.
She has now become the default pundit on all things related to women!
Not because she's particularly knowledgeable but because she's the most vocal!
This is tedious beyond belief, just because that's how she defines herself doesn't mean I want to relate to the constant over sharing, and lack of boundaries and TMI!
It just makes LW look so redundant, and desperate!
Also another point that (you so eloquently brought up) is her overriding need to always (in Nadia's mind) be seen to be inclusive!
I'm really getting sick of this term, using it actually invalidates people's experiences imo, that's because if anyone feels the need to constantly try to be inclusive, then as far as I'm concerned they are not practicing that in real life!
In other words it's a buzzword for fascists! You don't need to bend over backwards to make a show of including others, if you actually do that in real life!
So her immediate reference to men, just comes across as disengenous...you just know by men she means Mark! How does it make men (Mark) feel?
Well if you have any empathy you don't even need to ask those questions? (It's patronising)
Newsflash men have feelings too! Wow who knew right? Losing a baby is gut wrenching, I know it's happened to me four times....and when it happened (sorry not sorry) but my first reference point was not gee I wonder how my husband is feeling right now
Also another pertinent point would have been I wonder how Georgina is feeling right now? She barely gets a mention though, (if at all)?Losing a baby is very visceral and devastating and yes (as they are so rightly reminding us) we need to have that conversation!
We do but we need to have it about women and babies! To encourage a culture of support and empathy for women who are often dealt with on a merely physical basis, by the medical establishment.
Counseling should be available (if needed) and a proper burial....let's honour a (much loved) life even if it ended in death.
That's not the end result that anyone wants, but so often it's brushed under the carpet, and the culture of the stiff upper lip emerges (which is not helpful in this context) and women need to be treated as human beings ones with feelings, not just as a baby carrier, or collection of bodily parts!
Sadly Nadia with her constant self objectification is encouraging the latter attitude, so a little more emotional intelligence wouldn't go amiss!
Would have been nice for example if someone mentioned support for women after their loss, that's what is needed.
Also as Judy was at pains to point out, a bit of privacy and respect.
We actually shouldn't need to have THIS conversation....that speaks volumes about the way, WOMEN are routinely neglected and treated, when it comes to trauma and loss and babies....England (especially in some areas) has a terrible record in ensuring the safe delivery (and protection) of newborn babies and mother's, now that's something that we need to be talking (or outraged)about!
The way maternity services are chronically under staffed, and not given priority, and mother's and babies often not checked up on, often enough.(Also during labour).
That's what should be given our attention and consideration, because (potentially) that could affect any of us, and that's a (needless and often preventable) tragedy.
So the real way to be kind and respectful was shown by the football fans (and not Nadia Sawalha) who struck a nice balance on that, conveying their genuine best wishes and support, but without making a big deal about it (virtue signalling).
Sometimes actions speak louder than words ...that's true altruism, something Nadia Sawalha and her emotionally incontinent husband,(who has to be name checked in everything, else his fragile ego sustain a blow it cannot recover from) have yet (if ever) to grasp.
Moodie and her friends are fuckwits. I bet if Moodie stopped smoking pot, she’d see her circle of ‘friends’ disappear and move on to someone else who’s got drugs.
