Can you imagine the pong in the car on the way to Cornwall?
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I didn’t consider that so perhaps I’m being too judgmental - if so I apologies
They couldn't give 2 fucks about us subs (As they call us).These videos they make are just for clicks..the more crappy content they put out the more clicks they get the more money they get...And she is all about the money
As he is to...I stopped watching them a while back..I can't be doing with his constant childish ways ..and hers to...She earns the money and she makes it known to him...But I wonder if Sara Khan will blow her out of the water...And people will get to see the real her...A selfish woman out to get what she want and to hell with everyone else. 
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"Without the editing involved" That's the sentence which reeks of a fake account to me. Either Manks or Michelle or a family member. I also notice there is no fullstop at the end of the sentence. Didn't Maddie say she found them aggressive a while back? Which I at the time thought was her joking around.
"their," not 'they're,' 'they pay their taxes probably double than what you do.'
Either a young'un with very bad written grammar, or they are trying to throw us off the scent; as they know when to use the word 'their' in it's proper context.
"Without the editing involved" That's the sentence which reeks of a fake account to me. Either Manks or Michelle or a family member. I also notice there is no fullstop at the end of the sentence. Didn't Maddie say she found them aggressive a while back? Which I at the time thought was her joking around."their," not 'they're,' 'they pay their taxes probably double than what you do.'
Either a young'un with very bad written grammar, or they are trying to throw us off the scent; as they know when to use the word 'their' in it's proper context.
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The temptation to put Sarah Jane right on this one is high.
There was a washing machine at the cottage in Cornwall, it didn't even occur to them to use it?
After travelling for hours and then walking on a sandy beach she also didn't think to have a shower before getting into bed.
I've never been interested in looking at their podcasts but skimmed one recently where Maddie mentioned she found it embarrassing when Nadia and Marks subs would follow her friends after seeing dialogue between them on her insta. I can imagine they were subs such as Xander and Ashley etc and this is the very reason her social media accounts should remain private.
Nadia reckons all of Maddie's friends get up at 4pm! Nadia won't turn off the WiFi to prevent the girls from going on their phones late at night because they don't want to be mean parents!
After travelling for hours and then walking on a sandy beach she also didn't think to have a shower before getting into bed.
I've never been interested in looking at their podcasts but skimmed one recently where Maddie mentioned she found it embarrassing when Nadia and Marks subs would follow her friends after seeing dialogue between them on her insta. I can imagine they were subs such as Xander and Ashley etc and this is the very reason her social media accounts should remain private.
Nadia reckons all of Maddie's friends get up at 4pm! Nadia won't turn off the WiFi to prevent the girls from going on their phones late at night because they don't want to be mean parents!
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"Without the editing involved" That's the sentence which reeks of a fake account to me. Either Manks or Michelle or a family member. I also notice there is no fullstop at the end of the sentence. Didn't Maddie say she found them aggressive a while back? Which I at the time thought was her joking around."their," not 'they're,' 'they pay their taxes probably double than what you do.'
Either a young's with vert bad written grammar, or them trying to throw us off the scent; as they know when to use the word 'their' in it's proper context.
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Probably homeschooled
Welcome @Sugar puff fairyThey couldn't give 2 fucks about us subs (As they call us).These videos they make are just for clicks..the more crappy content they put out the more clicks they get the more money they get...And she is all about the money
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Seems like a nice boy, looks about twelve !
Probably homeschooled
"their," not 'they're,' 'they pay their taxes probably double than what you do.'
Either a young's with vert bad written grammar, or them trying to throw us off the scent; as they know when to use the word 'their' in it's proper context.
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Well yes, and whilst I was making that rather smug not so subtle assumption I ended up not checking typo's or punctuation myself. I did re-edit, didn't get through in time. Obviously I meant:
Either a young'un with very badly written grammar.
You have to skim them, there's no way anyone can watch them without getting dizzy
. I would quite like to have watched a bit of Cornwall as the scenery would have cheered me up during lockdown but no chance with manky and his swaying camera, he's all over the place except when it comes to filming animals willies he can hold the camera still then. They are such a bunch of weirdos that's all they look at when they see a field of animals...He's manky's new best friend don't you know.
They really are a bunch of weirdos. All so filthy minded. Acting like that in front of Kiki and her friend who seems a lovely quiet girl. Maddie is an attention seeking show off the same as her mother and father. The way she acted when Kiki was trimming Mankys eyebrows. So spoilt and wants it all to be about her. Then all the faces and playing up acting silly to the camera. Has anyone seen Maddies Instagram and the way she talks like a gangsta. She thinks she is "cool"? Hmmm
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...Yeah gangsta my arse! I really hate that stupid nihilist attitude!! I know some real gangsters from albania and guess what they don't act like that!!They really are a bunch of weirdos. All so filthy minded. Acting like that in front of Kiki and her friend who seems a lovely quiet girl. Maddie is an attention seeking show off the same as her mother and father. The way she acted when Kiki was trimming Mankys eyebrows. So spoilt and wants it all to be about her. Then all the faces and playing up acting silly to the camera. Has anyone seen Maddies Instagram and the way she talks like a gangsta. She thinks she is "cool"? Hmmm
In fact they are savvy enough to work for themselves put a lot of money in the bank and then go and feather their own nests and build up their families!!
I don't agree with it by the way being immoral is still immoral even if you think that the means justify the ends (they don't)
My point being though that they are not trapped by that lifestyle and are very smart in making it work for them.
They are predators to be sure but they are not victims but when you display yourself explictly drink and drugs and cheap swagger all you are doing is making it easy for people to hurt you?
Its not wild its not badass its someone trying to numb reality and control it because they can't cope with it? (imo)
The fact that the parents encourage such behaviour only shows to me how lazy they are and how little they actually care.
Love is boundries and security and trust and co operation i'm always dismissive of these highly charged insta posts.
Particularly between father and daughter because who makes a big deal about public displays of affection to me lacks it on the inside (virtue signalling).
He's happy because she has been dragged up to his level and misery loves company and the fact that she stays at home gives him reassurance.
God help her if she ever wanted to be independant or does her clingy father expect her to always be there?
(For his benefit not hers).
They used the kitchen food scissors to cut Marks eyebrows and ear hair
while stood in the kitchen. Disgusting. I feel sorry for the people went in after them.After a comment like that has been posted, so
Goodness, you sound very upset. Probably a good thing you stopped watching. As for hoping others will 'blow her out of the water,' I doubt that will happen. I've come to learn since joining here that aside from venting (which has been most helpful) we can have a chuckle, with no bullying towards them as a family or each other on this thread. We speak what we feel is the truth regarding their monetising and yes we want it to stop, but I feel only they as a family can make that decision, or YT itself; once I realised that I relaxed and found this forum a place for respite from my anger. I have learned a lot about the fragility of the human mind, most especially through the pandemic, and I have learned so much about Social Media, the many platforms which people choose to literally inhabit, live in, not in the real world. Tattle don't sell, influence or charge money for having an opinion, and that is the most important thing. Hope you enjoy the chats.They couldn't give 2 fucks about us subs (As they call us).These videos they make are just for clicks..the more crappy content they put out the more clicks they get the more money they get...And she is all about the money
Filthy wasn't it?They used the kitchen food scissors to cut Marks eyebrows and ear hair
Kiki's friend having to hide again.
I noticed that Nadia continues to film herself long after this timestamp - it reminded me of the live where Mark said they do things all the more if they know people dislike it. Poor girl doesn't want to be on camera so Nadia does it deliberately.
I noticed that Nadia continues to film herself long after this timestamp - it reminded me of the live where Mark said they do things all the more if they know people dislike it. Poor girl doesn't want to be on camera so Nadia does it deliberately. I'm sorry but what a witch!! She violates her own kids privacy (so does he to be fair) and overexposes herself on a nearly daily basis so i guess anything or anyone is considered as fodder for content.Kiki's friend having to hide again.
What a media bleep though!! As we have said on here before do they have any life off camera at all?
How sad!!
At the same time though they should not film a child without her consent thats just sick and i'm sure thats not allowed either?
If i was the girls mother i would not be happy with that also its not good for kiki either how is she meant to socialise and make friends if her pathetic parents stick a camera in their faces?
Honestly just so selfish and voyeuristic
Mark was so toxic in today’s Coffee Moaning that I need to vent!
At around 21 mins he starts talking about the possible suicide of Mick Norcross. After not very long he starts turning it into something about himself.
Starting with him implying it seems worse when masculine men commit suicide compared to others. You can tell he’s thinking that but then spirals off into toxic feminism, toxic attitudes to feminism, toxic masculinity and toxic attitudes to masculinity and it all gets confused. I think he’s simply trying to say we forget the pressures men are under. Fair enough but no need to frame it as men vs. women or masculine vs. feminine.
Anyway not a big deal but step 1 of making it about him.
And then to “trolling” which has no known link to Mick Norcross’s death.
He goes into full school teacher mode expressing something as an absolute truth that is actually completely wrong and harmful.
“Never stand in judgement of other people.”
What? Society hangs together because we make judgements of others and ourselves all the time. We have to question, investigate and challenge each other or there’d be nothing but corruption. What he means is “you lot should never criticise us while we try to make money from you.”
This of course comes from someone who is incredibly judgemental, including of himself.
But here’s the bit I find truly disgusting:
“If you slag someone off, in public, and it leads to them taking terrible action against themselves you have blood on your hands for a fact.”
Where to start!
1. Ok so he stressed the ‘in public’ bit which makes no sense at all. So doing it in private and pushing them to suicide, that’s fine? He’s not bothered about that detail because he wants to talk about himself.
2. Does he really not realise that he slags people off - celebrities and his own viewers, including insults and name calling in the comments (which then get deleted).
3. It is absolutely NOT TRUE that anyone who slags someone off is then responsible for their suicide. This is equivalent to saying that if someone slags someone off and then someone else murders that person because they’re perceived as an embarrassment, it’s the commenter that is responsible for their death not the murderer.
4. Mental health is a personal responsibility and just like we have to protect ourselves from starving or freezing to death, we have to protect our own mental health (and that of our children) not just hope the world is kind which it isn’t. It is completely within Mark’s power to avoid online criticism. He could pay someone to deal with YouTube comments, get off Twitter and make his Instagram private, but he freely chooses to expose himself to it. That is on him.
5. It does an injustice to anyone who has made the huge and brave decision to commit suicide to suggest they’ve done it because someone has slagged them off online. They often bring up Caroline Flack as an example when talking about this. The evidence suggests she had severe mental health and substance abuse problems, whether in her right mind or not was caught abusing her boyfriend, lost her job and was facing criminal prosecution and a media back lash. Suggesting that someone she didn’t know writing an unkind comment about her online played a significant part in her decision is ridiculous and insulting to her.
6. Systematic, inescapable bullying or harassment, particularly of children, is an entirely different matter. Slagging off is not automatically bullying or harassment. By definition it’s criticising in an unkind manner. We know that Mark perceives all criticism as unkind and misuses the word troll. Therefore, again, all he’s saying here is “don’t criticise us or you’ll be sorry.”
7. Free speech? Has he forgotten that’s a thing?
8. How will this kind of comment affect people like Josh or other well-meaning people that provided honest criticism and then got jumped on by him or other subs and called trolls. Are they now supposed to feel responsible for his mental health and if he ever does anything to harm himself, blood will be on their hands?
If he believes what he’s saying, he needs therapy.
So to anyone who listened to Coffee Moaning this morning and might have been affected by what he said - he is wrong and do not let this stop you judging and commenting on his/their behaviour and holding them accountable!
At around 21 mins he starts talking about the possible suicide of Mick Norcross. After not very long he starts turning it into something about himself.
Starting with him implying it seems worse when masculine men commit suicide compared to others. You can tell he’s thinking that but then spirals off into toxic feminism, toxic attitudes to feminism, toxic masculinity and toxic attitudes to masculinity and it all gets confused. I think he’s simply trying to say we forget the pressures men are under. Fair enough but no need to frame it as men vs. women or masculine vs. feminine.
Anyway not a big deal but step 1 of making it about him.
And then to “trolling” which has no known link to Mick Norcross’s death.
He goes into full school teacher mode expressing something as an absolute truth that is actually completely wrong and harmful.
“Never stand in judgement of other people.”
What? Society hangs together because we make judgements of others and ourselves all the time. We have to question, investigate and challenge each other or there’d be nothing but corruption. What he means is “you lot should never criticise us while we try to make money from you.”
This of course comes from someone who is incredibly judgemental, including of himself.
But here’s the bit I find truly disgusting:
“If you slag someone off, in public, and it leads to them taking terrible action against themselves you have blood on your hands for a fact.”
Where to start!
1. Ok so he stressed the ‘in public’ bit which makes no sense at all. So doing it in private and pushing them to suicide, that’s fine? He’s not bothered about that detail because he wants to talk about himself.
2. Does he really not realise that he slags people off - celebrities and his own viewers, including insults and name calling in the comments (which then get deleted).
3. It is absolutely NOT TRUE that anyone who slags someone off is then responsible for their suicide. This is equivalent to saying that if someone slags someone off and then someone else murders that person because they’re perceived as an embarrassment, it’s the commenter that is responsible for their death not the murderer.
4. Mental health is a personal responsibility and just like we have to protect ourselves from starving or freezing to death, we have to protect our own mental health (and that of our children) not just hope the world is kind which it isn’t. It is completely within Mark’s power to avoid online criticism. He could pay someone to deal with YouTube comments, get off Twitter and make his Instagram private, but he freely chooses to expose himself to it. That is on him.
5. It does an injustice to anyone who has made the huge and brave decision to commit suicide to suggest they’ve done it because someone has slagged them off online. They often bring up Caroline Flack as an example when talking about this. The evidence suggests she had severe mental health and substance abuse problems, whether in her right mind or not was caught abusing her boyfriend, lost her job and was facing criminal prosecution and a media back lash. Suggesting that someone she didn’t know writing an unkind comment about her online played a significant part in her decision is ridiculous and insulting to her.
6. Systematic, inescapable bullying or harassment, particularly of children, is an entirely different matter. Slagging off is not automatically bullying or harassment. By definition it’s criticising in an unkind manner. We know that Mark perceives all criticism as unkind and misuses the word troll. Therefore, again, all he’s saying here is “don’t criticise us or you’ll be sorry.”
7. Free speech? Has he forgotten that’s a thing?
8. How will this kind of comment affect people like Josh or other well-meaning people that provided honest criticism and then got jumped on by him or other subs and called trolls. Are they now supposed to feel responsible for his mental health and if he ever does anything to harm himself, blood will be on their hands?
If he believes what he’s saying, he needs therapy.
So to anyone who listened to Coffee Moaning this morning and might have been affected by what he said - he is wrong and do not let this stop you judging and commenting on his/their behaviour and holding them accountable!
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