Bettyboo2475
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This is horrifying but sounds so likely.
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Bettyboo2475
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I totally understand, they are putting an awful lot on here and I know that this site is also heavily moderated. I think a thread needs to be opened about cold cases/missing people etc. Its fascinating area of interest. The media often give a very biased opinion of what is happening, people's opinions are refreshing.
Even though I have found his actions to be EXTREMELY disturbing both before and during the investigation at this point I can't see now how it can be Mr. Colegate. If his cell/laptop/cc have been checked and he did it then they will either definitively incriminate him or be shown to be disturbingly silent at the house-sit.
The fact that the Police still seem to show no interest in him as a suspect and allow him to roam round the mountains strongly suggests that neither case is true. It is still possible that Ms. Dingley was killed by person or persons/unknown but that seems to me to be highly unlikely - I think now that accident/suicide are the most probable causes of death.
The fact that the Police still seem to show no interest in him as a suspect and allow him to roam round the mountains strongly suggests that neither case is true. It is still possible that Ms. Dingley was killed by person or persons/unknown but that seems to me to be highly unlikely - I think now that accident/suicide are the most probable causes of death.
tinkertailorsoldierspy
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I've been following it, it's all really strange. It must be agony for her family not knowing. She literally just disappeared.
In English Literature class at uni this last poem could consume a day of analysis.
The last 2 lines are the most disturbing.
But the middle part is also:
"Where we use other people
While loving our things"
One could say the poem is both biographical and also a commentary on society. Yet I don't view most of society as being "addicted to hate" so as a social commentary, in my opinion, it does not hold.
Glad you raised that. No idea why all my posts get bunched together.I haven’t thought anything yet, I’m still trying to work out who you are talking to, can you please quote a comment separately it makes confused reading when they’re all bunched into one
Can you advise how to write individually to each person without it gathering other posts into the mix?
Thanks Peggy. I never think of that person except when there is a case like this or Oscar's. It doesn't live with me in the present usually. Far gone. And short lived luckily.
But it does trigger intense protectiveness of their female victims.
Just found this thread recently and after lurking decided to join. I've been following this case since Ester Dingley went missing.
Did you ever get a reply from the lady in India?
I think it was one of the other ones, I don't think you can get a car up there at the Refuge de Vanesque.
I think suicide.
How do you reply? I can only see Like or Quote so all my replies are being put into one message.
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thegirlscout
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Some people think that’s what happened with the case of Ani Ashekian.
Most likely - one less item to carry.
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It's annoying how these posts get bundled.
That was done as a separate post.
NEW POST - hint to Tattle devs.
Hypothetically one could leave one's registered phone at home.
Having added one's whatsapp account to a 2nd phone.
If you look at the job specs for housitting ads in Haute Pyrenees most require wood chopping & outdoor tasks.
So one could feasibly go off to the forest to chop firewood or a similar lengthy activity, making sure to be seen setting off, but actually travel to Luchon in 1hr.
Then it would take 4-5hrs hiking to get to ED.
One could call her from one's other phone. Different sim card & phone.
Whatsapp would be the same.
A person could be close by to ED on the mountain, end the call, surprise her & flip the phone to flight mode.
Imagine cops trying to get the alibi of someone who was "chopping wood" in the Arreau forest for several hours? Not easy.
And if that person's phone was at home, even more difficult.
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Pinkblush
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Its in the Off Topic section which has 26 pages entitled Real life Crime but not sure what page its on.
Page 6 I think.
I don't think she was suicidal.Also to add on her last Instagram post she stated life is too short
Maybe she really was suicidal?
Showmethemoonie
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Search & Rescue stopped looking for Esther a long time ago. They have limited resources and their aim is to find people alive which there is no way she would have been after a few days in those conditions.
petitspois
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I think he has made a very elaborate plan to killer her. I really hope he was somehow thwarted and she is safe somewhere. I doubt it but stranger things have happened.
He rates himself and a great intellect, hence the publicity and high profile but his bubble of self importance will be popped soon enough.
He rates himself and a great intellect, hence the publicity and high profile but his bubble of self importance will be popped soon enough.
PeggyHenry
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If she was killed by bf then I don’t think it was premeditated. I believe a situation would have escalated to intense anger and something awful occurred. There is a discrepancy between him saying that rumours as to discontent / breakup in the relationship were salacious nonsense and Laura’s account of Esther reporting a breakup. DC would never have known that Esther had discussed a breakup with a fellow hiker. The investigating police would have immediately found that discrepancy disturbing.
But we don’t know what they know. He could’ve travelled on 21st / 22 nd and gone back home by late 23rd, and all would seem normal til the alarm was raised. He then travelled back and searched alone. At that point she was just missing so not suspected as being killed. He didn’t wish to search with them for a reason. They probably had no cause to track him at that stage. IMO.
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PeggyHenry
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Regarding the phone in flight mode - what do we know about that exactly? (sorry I had read something referring to this but haven't taken much notice of it until now). Do we know for sure it was turned to flight mode and when? Thanks!
Just thinking that she was last seen by Vigo at 3pm ascending the mountain. The next known event was her sending the photo from the summit at 4pm to Dan (although anything via social media etc is not reliable as someone could have done this on her 'phone). She looks genuinely happy in that photo. When did she meet the perpetrator do we think? If she had arranged to meet DC that day (hence explaining her late climb) then I'm thinking she arrange to meet possibly at summit or refuge that day..
Dan alerts she is missing on 27th (I think that is correct date.).
Just had a glance over at Websleuths and have brought this comment over by a member who I think was also of the opinion she may have been harmed by someone. Obviously over there we were unable to discuss openly these views!!
'My feeling is that Luchon holds the key and that there was somebody there – or on their way there – that ED was keen to meet up with. We know that LE have cleared her B/F, so who else could it be ? My original thought on this matter was that her mention of a kind male hiker on the 19th, prompted the B/F to visit her, but it is back to the drawing board on that one. Still puzzling though over her Instagram pictures of the 21-22 Nov, with ED (and her walking poles propped against a boulder), all showing Luchon in the background, accompanied with the words : “Maybe I can see you!!”. ''
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petitspois
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I agree but there’s still a part of me that thinks he might have been a very controlling/cruel man, hence the need to escape and not yet leave.
Even a lightweight tent is one of the bulkier pack items, so it's often strapped to the outside. Her pack was 58L, which is a fair size, but not as big as the usual 70L packs for multi-day trekking. So it's possible the tent was knocked off the pack in a fall.
The other possibility is it was abandoned as the terrain got challenging. It's very difficult to navigate steep terrain with a heavy pack. So it's possible she chose to remove some non-essential items from the bag. The options for pitching a tent in such terrain would be extremely limited, so it would really have been quite useless.
Bettyboo2475
Chatty Member
I think that we wont hear anymore about the source but it sounds convincing.