All these 'new members' ...and all saying they don't believe Dan did it. Can't be just me who's noticed. Hey Dan? 
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No wonder Esther ran away from this toxic relationship.
I get you think he’s innocent but all OP said was to also consider 1) the idea that Esther wasn’t happy and 2) the pretty normal concept of someone unhappy pretending to be fine to one person but eventually being honest with someone else. Youre making it clear you think that idea is ridiculous, by comparing it to an idea you also think is untrue, by insinuating that the women who found her to be depressed are making massive, inaccurate judgements. But what do you know more than them?
what’s ridiculous about the idea Esther could be unhappy? I think there’s evidence to suggest this, and even if there wasn’t it wouldn’t mean it’s not worth speaking about. To avoid the conversation entirely in the name of being completely and utterly kind to Dan seems unkind to Esther
Eek those poems sound like they were written from her perspective as if he knew exactly what he was doing to her
Yep. This is the parasite part of the disorder. It blows the mind that some people "feed" off others' pain.Eek those poems sound like they were written from her perspective as if he knew exactly what he was doing to her
We just have to accept this is how they operate. But... it's vomit-inducing.
It's as though malignant narcs are venomous spiders. Eeking out poison bit by bit so as not to kill the victim (fly) outright (psychologically or other).
I wonder if he will give himself away in the end as he can't live without people knowing how intelligent he is, to get away with murder.
It's got to be said that whoever/whatever he is writing about it's a bloody good poem
However Esther died, I hope she didn't suffer too much. I've recently started hiking by myself local to me and the thought of something happening and being alone and unable to get help is a really frightening thought.
I know the police say they have ruled out any kind of foul play and it was an accident, but it is possible that they've got it wrong. No disrespect to the French police, but I watch and listen to a lot of true crime content and there are many, many example of police all over the world over looking evidence either by accident, laziness or even purposely sometimes. There are stories of evidence being so obviously right there, but it wasn't seen. Also, how thoroughly did they investigate Dan's alibi? This is all a possibility, right?
I know the police say they have ruled out any kind of foul play and it was an accident, but it is possible that they've got it wrong. No disrespect to the French police, but I watch and listen to a lot of true crime content and there are many, many example of police all over the world over looking evidence either by accident, laziness or even purposely sometimes. There are stories of evidence being so obviously right there, but it wasn't seen. Also, how thoroughly did they investigate Dan's alibi? This is all a possibility, right?
The police haven't ruled out foul play. They said it looks like a fall due to the autopsy showing 2 fractures. And because some of her belongings are scattered around.
But they are still conducting a month long forensic investigation into her skull and phone. An expensive exercise.
Their "Criminal Investigation Technicians" quoting their term for it, are still busy.
Apologies! Thought they had
Be safe on your hikes. Try joining a local hiking group on Meetup.com.
That took you a long time to come up with and I understand why - you didn’t have an answer so initially you just put a mocking emoji to a poster who commented on it.
Eventually you decided here to straw-man me by setting up something ridiculous and trying to associate that to the logic of what I wrote. It doesn’t work and the point still stands that Laura Adomaityte’s evidence is compelling.
initially I took your posts at face value because I thought it reasonable to ask for definitive proof - but your later posts show that you are just disingenuous…
Fascinating thread. The dynamic is so different on here from the rest of Tattle. Is it this fraught on Websleuths too?
Here’s a question that I’be not been able to find the answer to online and I was hoping you guys might know the answer…
Did Dan spot her remains from a distance and alert the authorities? Or did he physically get close enough to them where he could access them and her belongings?
The reason I ask is that I assumed it was the former and he’d spotted her body in a ravine or something below that was inaccessible without climbing equipment. However, some posters seem to be suggesting he moved the body or he found it so he could explain the presence of his DNA on it.
Here’s a question that I’be not been able to find the answer to online and I was hoping you guys might know the answer…
Did Dan spot her remains from a distance and alert the authorities? Or did he physically get close enough to them where he could access them and her belongings?
The reason I ask is that I assumed it was the former and he’d spotted her body in a ravine or something below that was inaccessible without climbing equipment. However, some posters seem to be suggesting he moved the body or he found it so he could explain the presence of his DNA on it.
Mr. Colegate spotted the remains from a distance and informed the Police.
The fact that the Police gave Mr. Colegate the freedom to trek around on his own before the body was found means that theoretically there is a possibility that he could have been up there tampering with the scene - but as far as I am aware there is no evidence that he did.
The spotting from a distance is odd because the police said the remains were in a gully/cave type place.
Lemon asked a good question because the details of the finding are a bit hazy.
Lemon the police described the location as "inaccessible".
And it seems they infer it is higher than the trail level. So Dan's eyes are on stalks perhaps?
By the way, if you think this is fraught you should watch the Youtube channels discussing Summer Wells. Both sides.
Ones accusing the parents: AB or John Cue or The Interview Room.
The one befriending the father, who diddled his sisters as per their testimony - Voices Behind The Wall.
It's a whole other level.
The importance of it all is that people on the street drive investigation pressure.
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I saw a YouTube video the other day on the murder of Cody Johnson. I was struck by the similarities with his wife finding the body despite it being on an inaccessible bit of mountainside.
I'll look for the Cody video. Very interesting.
They are just very strange poetry topics for someone who had been in a relationship with their ‘soul mate’ since they were a teenager. Poems are usually the expression of the poets experience/inner life.
A narc I know, not an ex, claimed Wuthering Heights was "a great love story". While psychologists cite the same book as a great example of NPD in action.
These people think of love as a torturous journey in which pain is inflicted left and right. The greater the agony the greater the love.
It's all very sick and I need to go wash my mind out to get rid of these thoughts.
Thanks Lemon.