Missing Blogger Esther Dingley #2

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That is a bit leading, she didn’t die suddenly in an accidental fall,… and yes your poetry is bad.
Personally I don’t think the quality (or lack of it) of Mr. Colegate’s poetry and books is the issue, it’s what he actually says that is more to the point - it’s extraordinary and extremely revealing…
 
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That is a bit leading, she didn’t die suddenly in an accidental fall,… and yes your poetry is bad.
Apart from the smiley Sauvegarde photos on her last days, Esther looked draggy and miserable the last month, and she seemed so in her tête à tête in the mountain hut with the stranger who fed her. She looks intimidated and withdrawn in many mountain selfies where she appears with Dan. There's always that fake "faces leaned into each other pseudo intimacy" that you get with selfies. I wish we had more eyewitness statements from their Alpine trip about what she was like, but I guess she didn't get to mingle. How nice she had a chance to do this at the last.
Begging for fruit and other food may indeed have been a desperate way to connect when other avenues were closed to her. And, yes, a plea for help and nurture in so many ways.
 
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Apart from the smiley Sauvegarde photos on her last days, Esther looked draggy and miserable the last month, and she seemed so in her tête à tête in the mountain hut with the stranger who fed her.
"I met her twice while I hiked with my dog," Noemi Alonso, a biologist who lives in Benasque, told ExplorersWeb. "Last time, we met at the Santa Ana’s Cabin [an open hut without a caretaker], where she spent the night. She told me she was headed for Salvaguardia Peak and asked the best way to reach the summit." The biologist found her cheerful and good company. "[She seemed] well-equipped and fit," Alonso said. About whether she might be depressed or sad, per some local rumors, Alonso replied, "Absolutely not! She looked very happy and motivated to me."


That is a bit leading, she didn’t die suddenly in an accidental fall
What do you know that the police, pathologists, and procureur don't?
 
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Apart from the smiley Sauvegarde photos on her last days, Esther looked draggy and miserable the last month, and she seemed so in her tête à tête in the mountain hut with the stranger who fed her. She looks intimidated and withdrawn in many mountain selfies where she appears with Dan. There's always that fake "faces leaned into each other pseudo intimacy" that you get with selfies. I wish we had more eyewitness statements from their Alpine trip about what she was like, but I guess she didn't get to mingle. How nice she had a chance to do this at the last.
Begging for fruit and other food may indeed have been a desperate way to connect when other avenues were closed to her. And, yes, a plea for help and nurture in so many ways.
Oh that’s so sad,… I had a friend who had nothing but lovey couples photos on their walls, the perfect family!… always smiling on cue, no one could see the bruises on her back. She told me he used to kick and her in her back in the night. Luckily he died at 48 years old, …. years on she still jumps at the slightest thing and is always asking me for reassurance when me meet up on the tinniest thing, like a 5 year old,..
 
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"I met her twice while I hiked with my dog," Noemi Alonso, a biologist who lives in Benasque, told ExplorersWeb. "Last time, we met at the Santa Ana’s Cabin [an open hut without a caretaker], where she spent the night. She told me she was headed for Salvaguardia Peak and asked the best way to reach the summit." The biologist found her cheerful and good company. "[She seemed] well-equipped and fit," Alonso said. About whether she might be depressed or sad, per some local rumors, Alonso replied, "Absolutely not! She looked very happy and motivated to me."

I'll post this statement again because it was just before her death and I think that it is far more enlightening and clear than the one you have chosen to post :-

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“Fellow hiker, Laura Adomaityte, who met Dingley in a shelter several days before her disappearance, told The Times that the 37-year-old British woman told her she was "taking a break" from Colegate and "didn't know if they were going to get back together again."
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I don't see much happiness in the relationship there, I suspect she was really struggling emotionally...
 
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I'll post this statement again because it was just before her death and I think that it is far more enlightening and clear than the one you have chosen to post :-
One says that she was happy. Another says she wasn't. What makes one more enlightening than the other?
 
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Personally I don’t think the quality (or lack of it) of Mr. Colegate’s poetry and books is the issue, it’s what he actually says that is more to the point - it’s extraordinary and extremely revealing…
Yes, it makes me terrified for Esther and what she must have been through for all those years. Imagine being referred to as someone who left a stain. Just repugnant.
 
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One says that she was happy. Another says she wasn't. What makes one more enlightening than the other?
You can't see the difference ???

In one somebody is drawing a general conclusion based on talking to a stranger, most people put on their best face in such a situation.

In the other just a few days before her death she is being EXTREMELY frank and direct about her relationship that has existed all her adult life. That is on a completely different level.

I am amazed that I am having to explain this to you...
 
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You can't see the difference ???

In one somebody is drawing a general conclusion based on talking to a stranger, most people put on their best face in such a situation.

In the other just a few days before her death she is being EXTREMELY frank and direct about her relationship that has existed all her adult life. That is on a completely different level.

I am amazed that I am having to explain this to you...
Yes, it does seem quite astonishing that you have to elucidate the obvious.

Clearly, someone is trying to "control the narrative" on this forum, as on others. Thank gosh, there are perceptive and experienced posters on here who won't put up with being manipulated.
 
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Yes, it does seem quite astonishing that you have to elucidate the obvious.

Clearly, someone is trying to "control the narrative" on this forum, as on others. Thank gosh, there are perceptive and experienced posters on here who won't put up with being manipulated.
perceptive and experienced? Or do you mean banished from Web Sleuths? Seems to have been an influx here recently. Whilst I agree that over policing of opinion on forums is detrimental, I’m starting to see why people have been asked to leave there.
 
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We need to stop the witch-hunting, mudslinging etc or this thread will be locked, which would be a huge shame. There’s ways to disagree without making it personal or inflammatory. We’ve already had a warning.
 
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If this thread got closed which is what narrative controllers hope for, we'd start another.

Esther's death is extremely fishy and Dan will no doubt be planning to profit from a book about it. Painting himself as a hero. Which he is not. He wrote about loathing her in a book for sale on Amazon.

Which reminds me... how's his "fundraising" going?

This is not WS where the owner can imply family guilt on Youtube while her forum posters get banned for doing so.

Whether it's a 5yr old child or a vuLnerable woman the public have the right to discuss their suspicions. The Madeleine Mccann days are over.
 
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If this thread got closed which is what narrative controllers hope for, we'd start another.

Esther's death is extremely fishy and Dan will no doubt be planning to profit from a book about it. Painting himself as a hero. Which he is not. He wrote about loathing her in a book for sale on Amazon.

Which reminds me... how's his "fundraising" going?

This is not WS where the owner can imply family guilt on Youtube while her forum posters get banned for doing so.

Whether it's a 5yr old child or a vuLnerable woman the public have the right to discuss their suspicions. The Madeleine Mccann days are over.
£7564 so above the £5k he initially set.
 
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Just had a quick look at Dan's Instagram. The poems attached jumped out at me.

I included the most recent one again because I couldn't make out the word "beating" in the original SS. Interesting how he views her death as a "beating" to him.

The 2nd SS has an interesting comment from him underneath - he says "do you ever feel this way, confusing, isn't it" - so it's obvious he's talking about his relationship.

The other two are quite angry, discussing his relationship, I think, as he used the hashtag #relationshipquotes in one of them.

Make of these what you will.
All these poems were before her death, I.e. his last post was May 2020, so the 'beating' word couldnt be referring to her death surely?

All these poems were before her death, I.e. his last post was May 2020, so the 'beating' word couldnt be referring to her death surely?
This one also particularly stands out. It is almost as if he could be writing from Esther's perspective...
 

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Esther looks miserable and withdrawn in most of her photos and it was clear as day in the YouTube video.
 
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If he did do it then why would he direct the police to her remains?
To make it appear like an accident?

All these poems were before her death, I.e. his last post was May 2020, so the 'beating' word couldnt be referring to her death surely?


This one also particularly stands out. It is almost as if he could be writing from Esther's perspective...
Awful. From the start, Dan has insisted he's inside Esther's head. For instance, he fixated on a trail that went in a loop through the Refuge de Venasque, even though the police said she'd never been there. He might well have delayed the all-out search to find her in the place she said she'd be, namely the Port de la Glère. He insisted she'd never go off trail. Well, news flash. He said she was communicative regularly. In fact, in the last few days, she chose not to be and she told Dan she would not be. She went so far as to tell him her phone would be in airplane mode. She stayed at the Cabane (possibly even 2 nights) when she could have got to an area with cell service. He insisted she'd never do anything other than match his idea of what she'd be doing. In those last few days, almost everything she did was precisely what he said she'd never do.
And here he is, typical, placing himself in her head, as though he owned her and spoke for her. She said no, and she'd had enough. Her self-death said as much. She didn't belong to him. He had no power, in the end, over her.
I think this was a suicide: she had no other reason to climb something as rugged, inapproachable, and fraught as the Pic de la Glère. Seriously, who goes up something like that with bald shoes, by themselves, and winter approaching?
 
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I'm sorry but Dan sounds like a bleeping bleep and a fruitcake. No wonder this incident has happened. Can you imagine living with this fruitcake for years. I'm not suggesting whether he killed her or it was an accident but he may have been the reason this has happened. The guy is an absolute nutcase.
 
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You can't see the difference ???
You're right. I wrote in haste.

What I meant to say was:

It's clear these women know things that the papers aren't reporting. I'm sure they know where the stolen dogs are, and they probably know where the other bodies are buried. Perhaps they helped Dan move the bones. Do they have alibis for the 22nd?
 
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