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Abominatrix

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Oh the NABL
Oh the NAMBLA book he claimed was sent by a fan.I think that was all that was found, right? I never heard of anymore. I studied that 2005 trial hard back in the day. The 2005 trial really struggled with any physical evidence to convict, especially in regards to any indecent images on laptops/ computers. I think Sneddon was quite disappointed in the lack of evidence despite searching for hours. I still think that the Gavin Arvizo trial didn't hold much weight, but Sneddon was so desperate to convict, that he ran with it.
No, actually, not just the NAMBLA book. Please forgive me for not being fully versed on the defense of this pedophile, here's what the Google AI had to say. I'm sure you can look up the same and follow the citations.
 

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Ivegone

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He didn't have a childhood....that is something I don't get as an excuse because there are millions who went through the same or worse who didn't grow up to do what he did. It's as bad as the 'he was still a child/asexual' excuses when there is tons of evidence he was far from it. There are videos of him lusting after women and people talking about buying him porn etc which proves it was bullshit. Of course they then use that as an other excuse to proof his innocense like there havent't been countless instances of straight men married for years with kids being caught with CSAM containing just boys.


BIB - it's the saint effect that happens to everyone when they die. Diana is the perfect example. When she was alive she could be a right nasty cow. Even friends said she could be really vindictive yet the minute she died, people forgot she had flaws and could be nippy and decided she was a saint who was too good for us idiots. There are people out there who think the likes of Bundy, Dahmer and other serial killers were poor guys who just weren't treated right....it's mad but it happens.
jade goody too
 
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Piff paff puff

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I would so love to know what the deal is with those kids. It seems very unlikely that they are genetically his.

He was quite happy for them to not have a mum which is just so selfish and sad.

And prince's angelic blonde hair when he was little was suss.
The hair was very badly dyed. I'm surprised it didn't burn his scalp. And there is no way those children are genetically his which probably means he was unable to produce children.
 
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Reality_tv_lover

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He definitely displayed red flags and id never have allowed him near my child...... but all of his accusers were weak grifters in my opinion.
I think k the same. Until it literally comes out video proof etc I think he was a weird weird man and I have two sons I wouldn't leave alone with him (wtf were these parents thinking) but I don't think he did anything but he shouldn't have had kids in his house bed etc and then he wouldn't have been accused
Didn't someone say he never really grew up because of the abuse from his dad? Kind of makes sense if he still thought he was young like the kids and nothing was wrong because kids have sleepovers it was very weird he is a weird man but I adore his music
 
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Web30

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Paris has made it clear she thinks it's nothing more than a cash grab from people who were already wasting his money who don't care if some if not a lot of it is fiction.


Pop Bitch is also talking about him today with some known stories that used to go around about him.say

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Aaron Carter always had good things to say about him didnt he? Or am I thinking of someone else.
 
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AnneinHever

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Hang on, does she really mean cloning? As opposed to ivf or surrogacy etc. And why does she say they. Not he. Who are this nefarious cloning crowd?
I think it was probably a joke, first because she looks a lot like her mother, and second because of all the stories surrounding her father. So I don’t think there’s anything there. I do believe the SA allegations against MJ though.
 
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Web30

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Oh MJ was a raging nonce, just like Epstein, who had the finances, and power to buy people off. The actual shiver I get when you watch the Bahir interview and see him gleefully admitting to sharing a bed with a boy of 12 with cancer and talking in depth about it. Ugh. Those books of naked children the FBI found that he called “art”. Sick bastard. When you see about the court, the jurors jamming to his music etc as it’s played it court. It’s a farce

but the parents should’ve been accountable as well. Fuck pay outs, they should’ve been in trouble. At what point are you trafficking your own child by letting them sleep in a 40 year old man’s bed? Especially after previous allegations.
He said he slept on the floor, that part always gets missed out / glossed over
 
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Youtubegossip

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Those 2 guys swore that nothing happened to them and that Michael was innocent of sex abuse, suddeny they "ready to tell their story" and I smell a rat, its also quite handy that MJ has been dead for nearly 10 years and can't defend himself.
I’m still torn tbh.

They are in a weird mental space ( if true ) that MJ was their idol, and did so much for them and literally made their dreams come true, whilst at the same time doing terrible things to them (allegedly)

It’s kind of like them still love him whilst at the same time hating him.
That must really f**k you up.
 
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MrsBsDayOff

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I remember in the first documentary when at least one of them said that they had no relationship with their parent(s) any more, I just thought, 'yeah, that tracks'. The very idea of letting your kid have 'sleepovers' with an adult stranger, what the fuck. Did all the holidays and gifts make them lose all common sense?!
In addition to the monetary benefits, they seemed starstruck and 'honoured' to be guests of MJ. I suppose they felt they had 'made it' by mixing with elites. Not that this excuses any of the parents.
 
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Prince fan 1999

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Not sure where I read it but apparently MJ offered Lisa Marie's children's dad a million dollars to adopt them. I can well imagine. To MJ anything had a price 🙄
 
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Bull***t Buster

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I personally don’t believe Wade Robson.

Wade Robson defended Michael Jackson for 20 years, then in court under oath( memory wasn’t triggered by all this CSA talk at all ?! As a grown man? Really ? So he committed perjury ) he was the star DEFENSE ( wow risky or what? MJ was cocky AF ), actually DATED MJ’s niece Brandi during this time for 7 years ( while alleged abuse was going on apparently and it was MJ who set them up - say what?! ) he begs to go to his funeral, writes two full pages on how much he loves him in the Opus, hangs out with the family, asks the family can he get married at Neverland because it’s his favourite place ( say what ?! ) , does tributes after his death, begs to work on MJ Cirque de Soleil , copies his moves in his own video wearing a glove given to him to ‘ be close to him.’ This is all by a GROWN MAN not a child. But he didn’t know it was abuse…
He then tried to get a book deal, it flopped, tried to sue the Michael Jackson estate and failed , got no work on and won’t be touched by Hollywood after being known for cheating and lying ( the Britney/JT saga cry me a river ) a note found written by him states ‘ my abuse story will make me relatable ‘ and - oh wait.. It’s all coming back to me ... 💵 💵 💵 💵
That’s the victim “ the child “ you are talking about. A 40 something year old man who’s pissed because MJ died and he couldn’t fleece him for any more cash or contacts. Him dying also meant he couldn’t defend himself He didn’t go to the POLICE when he suddenly remembered the abuse, oh no let’s go on Oprah! Wade Robson has been trying to sue the estate for the last few years and failed. Three times in total. He also set up a website shortly after the documentary with “ help SA victims “ and the minimum donation was $250. However it didn’t say what the money would be used for or where it actually went. It’s all about the dollar, dollar, dollar.
His wife threatened to leave him because he’s such a loser.
If MJ hadn’t of passed away these claims would not of happened. It’s all about money and cashing in on his name. They were clever in that they used the #metoo movement to propel this but not so clever they could get facts or dates right. There was only one train station and it wasn’t even built when they claim the abuse took place. This is fact. In the court documents Joyce Robson states they only visited Neverland five times and three of those Michael Jackson wasn’t even there. One time he claims abuse took place Michael Jackson was on his Bad tour, on stage, in Oz, in a different country!! He’s the most documented, followed, photographed human being! 😂 The whole thing would be laughable if it wasn’t such a disgusting claim to make. They are the lowest of the low. It’ll eventually all come out when people can finally use some critical thinking and see none of it makes sense.

Anyways, I hope I have given you some points to think about.
I 100% agree with everything you have said! I went down a Wade Robson rabbit hole a few years ago and read a lot of things about him. He really is a fame hungry nasty piece of work!
 
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Web30

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I doubt they were up having a party in the court room, I think anyone would find it had not to have a little seat dance to most music.
I didnt realise the documentary was played as evidence, surely they should have shown unedited footage that was concerning if they had to show anything related to Martin Bashier
 
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Bull***t Buster

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I’m not sure if links work on here but I will give it a go!


Thoughts? 🤔

Personally I cannot stand Wade. He is a fame hungry, arrogant arsehole and also a proven liar time and time again! That’s not to say that Michael was innocent, I just don’t believe Wade!
 
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Web30

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It was either Mark Ronson or Culkin brothers that said he never shared the actual bed, his room was apparently like an apartment and had multiple bedrooms or something and the kids would sleep in one and him in another which was in another part or something and his security would be with him. I don’t remember which celeb said it or which doc it was said in or there was something like he’d actually leave and not sleep there - allegedly.

I think he was VERY stupid to do that and his team were careless to allow it to ever happen! Again, don’t think he’s innocent but I don’t think he’s fully guilty and clearly had issues. I think he was on the spectrum if im honest and didn’t fully comprehend he was a grown adult.

With Weinstein and Epstein it was very black and white with evidence so it’s just so bizarre to me that MJ’s case lack a shred of something, like nothing at all. Even the 2005 trial had next to nothing and Sony settled not MJ , he didn’t want to settle. It’s just not adding up, it’s what I can’t get my head around.
He even said it himself that he would offer the kids the bed and he'd sleep on the floor. Think it was the basher interview.

This new show had nothing new in it info wise, nothing to make me change my mind about him, yes he didn't do himself any favours but I still believe he was innocent of what these two are saying.
 
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Prince fan 1999

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Controversial opinion maybe , but I don't believe that Michael Jackson sexually abused those children
I don't either. Seems a lot feel the same. Look at the success of the movie. No one predicted that. I've seen It twice and think I might go again before the run ends 😃
 
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