Michael Jackson

[Youtubegossip]

Those 2 guys swore that nothing happened to them and that Michael was innocent of sex abuse, suddeny they "ready to tell their story" and I smell a rat, its also quite handy that MJ has been dead for nearly 10 years and can't defend himself.

I’m still torn tbh.

They are in a weird mental space ( if true ) that MJ was their idol, and did so much for them and literally made their dreams come true, whilst at the same time doing terrible things to them (allegedly)

It’s kind of like them still love him whilst at the same time hating him.
That must really f**k you up.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Right, because it’s perfectly normal for an adult man to share a room with a young boy he is not related to. Ugh.

Well he wasn't perfectly normal was he? You forgot to mention his "bedroom" was the size of a normal person's 2 up 2 down house.

 

[MrsBsDayOff]

I remember in the first documentary when at least one of them said that they had no relationship with their parent(s) any more, I just thought, 'yeah, that tracks'. The very idea of letting your kid have 'sleepovers' with an adult stranger, what the fuck. Did all the holidays and gifts make them lose all common sense?!

In addition to the monetary benefits, they seemed starstruck and 'honoured' to be guests of MJ. I suppose they felt they had 'made it' by mixing with elites. Not that this excuses any of the parents.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Not sure where I read it but apparently MJ offered Lisa Marie's children's dad a million dollars to adopt them. I can well imagine. To MJ anything had a price

 

[Bull***t Buster]

I personally don’t believe Wade Robson.

Wade Robson defended Michael Jackson for 20 years, then in court under oath( memory wasn’t triggered by all this CSA talk at all ?! As a grown man? Really ? So he committed perjury ) he was the star DEFENSE ( wow risky or what? MJ was cocky AF ), actually DATED MJ’s niece Brandi during this time for 7 years ( while alleged abuse was going on apparently and it was MJ who set them up - say what?! ) he begs to go to his funeral, writes two full pages on how much he loves him in the Opus, hangs out with the family, asks the family can he get married at Neverland because it’s his favourite place ( say what ?! ) , does tributes after his death, begs to work on MJ Cirque de Soleil , copies his moves in his own video wearing a glove given to him to ‘ be close to him.’ This is all by a GROWN MAN not a child. But he didn’t know it was abuse…
He then tried to get a book deal, it flopped, tried to sue the Michael Jackson estate and failed , got no work on and won’t be touched by Hollywood after being known for cheating and lying ( the Britney/JT saga cry me a river ) a note found written by him states ‘ my abuse story will make me relatable ‘ and - oh wait.. It’s all coming back to me ...
That’s the victim “ the child “ you are talking about. A 40 something year old man who’s pissed because MJ died and he couldn’t fleece him for any more cash or contacts. Him dying also meant he couldn’t defend himself He didn’t go to the POLICE when he suddenly remembered the abuse, oh no let’s go on Oprah! Wade Robson has been trying to sue the estate for the last few years and failed. Three times in total. He also set up a website shortly after the documentary with “ help SA victims “ and the minimum donation was $250. However it didn’t say what the money would be used for or where it actually went. It’s all about the dollar, dollar, dollar.
His wife threatened to leave him because he’s such a loser.
If MJ hadn’t of passed away these claims would not of happened. It’s all about money and cashing in on his name. They were clever in that they used the #metoo movement to propel this but not so clever they could get facts or dates right. There was only one train station and it wasn’t even built when they claim the abuse took place. This is fact. In the court documents Joyce Robson states they only visited Neverland five times and three of those Michael Jackson wasn’t even there. One time he claims abuse took place Michael Jackson was on his Bad tour, on stage, in Oz, in a different country!! He’s the most documented, followed, photographed human being! The whole thing would be laughable if it wasn’t such a disgusting claim to make. They are the lowest of the low. It’ll eventually all come out when people can finally use some critical thinking and see none of it makes sense.

Anyways, I hope I have given you some points to think about.

I 100% agree with everything you have said! I went down a Wade Robson rabbit hole a few years ago and read a lot of things about him. He really is a fame hungry nasty piece of work!

 

[Bull***t Buster]

I’m not sure if links work on here but I will give it a go!

Michael Jackson Molestation Allegations by Wade Robson Will Go to Trial

Michael Jackson will effectively be tried for allegedly molesting choreographer Wade Robson when he was a child ... TMZ has learned.

amp.tmz.com

Thoughts?

Personally I cannot stand Wade. He is a fame hungry, arrogant arsehole and also a proven liar time and time again! That’s not to say that Michael was innocent, I just don’t believe Wade!

 

[Web30]

It was either Mark Ronson or Culkin brothers that said he never shared the actual bed, his room was apparently like an apartment and had multiple bedrooms or something and the kids would sleep in one and him in another which was in another part or something and his security would be with him. I don’t remember which celeb said it or which doc it was said in or there was something like he’d actually leave and not sleep there - allegedly.

I think he was VERY stupid to do that and his team were careless to allow it to ever happen! Again, don’t think he’s innocent but I don’t think he’s fully guilty and clearly had issues. I think he was on the spectrum if im honest and didn’t fully comprehend he was a grown adult.

With Weinstein and Epstein it was very black and white with evidence so it’s just so bizarre to me that MJ’s case lack a shred of something, like nothing at all. Even the 2005 trial had next to nothing and Sony settled not MJ , he didn’t want to settle. It’s just not adding up, it’s what I can’t get my head around.

He even said it himself that he would offer the kids the bed and he'd sleep on the floor. Think it was the basher interview.

This new show had nothing new in it info wise, nothing to make me change my mind about him, yes he didn't do himself any favours but I still believe he was innocent of what these two are saying.

 

[Web30]

His own neice... Who dated wade for 7 years has comeout saying its all lies.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Controversial opinion maybe , but I don't believe that Michael Jackson sexually abused those children

I don't either. Seems a lot feel the same. Look at the success of the movie. No one predicted that. I've seen It twice and think I might go again before the run ends

 

[Youtubegossip]

Well he was found not guilty in court twice.....

I’d have paid out 134 million if I wasn’t guilty to shut people up too...

Also, people that testified and signed stuff to keep quiet in those cases have since said they were manipulated/ signed to say they wouldn’t etc

 

[Reality_tv_lover]

He groomed them. Offering this and that for them to be awed over while he did what he did. I'm not excusing them or absolving them of blame because as an adult you know if something is too good to be true, it usually is but he knew exactly what he was doing...picking people who had nothing and offering them the world only to throw them out when he was done and move on to the next family.

That's really sad for the families

 

[Ivegone]

surely the trial shouldnt have been allowed then
this is what google said when i asked if a celeb in trial should have jurys who like their music acting etc

Legally, no; a celebrity should not have a jury composed of people who like them. The goal of a jury trial is to provide an impartial trier of fact, and having a jury packed with fans would create an inherent bias that undermines the core principles of the justice system

 

[Oohthedrama]

The directors already planing on a sequal ? money motived?? I think so.

He seems just as shady as the two lads. He absolutely had the documentary planned, and the route it was going to take before he’d even met the lads involved.
That smells slightly off to me.

 

[Oohthedrama]

Of course one of MJ’s family wouldn’t just stick up for their uncle?

Don’t get me wrong I love his music as much as the next person but if ‘roger from down the street had boys sleeping over at his house for weeks on end. In his bed, with him’ we’d all be fine about that would we???

I think you’re getting really worked up, people are allowed to express a different opinion and nobody, NOBODY is saying the acts or stories or accusations are right ??‍
It’s a conversation about the people involved including the director, the “victims” and Michael Jackson himself.
Nobody can say 1000000% if it’s truth or lies. Only what we believe.
It’s a good conversation to have.

 

[AladdinSane]

But he never got away? And wasn’t hiding in plain sight like Saville - the conversation has been ongoing for years, he went to court, he went under the FBI investigations multiple times, he was never convicted.

He has been in the public court of law for 33 years and it will never ever end because as the public we see him generally as guilty because it’s hard to fathom why a grown ass man was having sleep overs and giving minors alcohol etc. It’s all layers of messed up but he never got away with anything really, he was done and over since that first case. The only thing people want now is millions of dollars, but these families were fine with shipping their kids off to him though at the time… like I know grooming is a thing but come on, really letting a grown man be alone and share a bed with your child. They wanted his money, the parents of these children who are suing should also be cross examined if these go to court.

This is also something I struggle with. I feel like it got to the point where everyone would have loved to see him fall and would have almost been gleeful if he was found guilty. Why no more charges? I honestly dont know.

I do feel so unbelievably sad for his kids though. They didnt ask to be born a Jackson and you can tell, with the boys especially, that they love their dad. I think Prince is a very down to earth, lovely kid. I just hope they are at peace with everything because it must be so painful for them everytime this resurfaces

 

[Web30]

Has anyone watched the Laytoya reality show? Its just appeared on my YouTube suggestions, shes an odd one

 

[Piff paff puff]

even his brothers said had a very healthy appetite, sexually

To me he seemed like the most asexual man on the planet. I know he had supposed relationships but nothing of any substance. They looked like publicity stunts for both parties. The marriage to Lisa Marie was weird. His obsession with looking like Liz Taylor and Liza minelli was in line with feeling more feminine than masculine. I think if anything he was a gay man in the closet. Am I right in that no girl children were invited into his bed? Not a question just to you but a general question.

 

[Miss Havisham]

the minute they got up dancing should have all been thrown out the case being rescheduled to get new jurys

Well, that does make the whole case sound like a farce.

I do imagine, that when it comes to the rich famous and influential being tried - there will be folk on juries who are more discreet, with nobody ever knowing or be able to prove that they could be influenced by them.

 

[kevin1223]

Will be seeing in tomorrow. Used to be a huge fan in the 80s. Not been able to listen to him for years,since the allegations have tainted everything for me now. I do love a biopic though. I'll report back tomorrow night.

Please do! Enjoy

 

[Upintheair83]

I didn't believe a word of leaving neverland or the accusers in it. Do I think MJ was a child predator? I think it's more than likely. But I never thought Gavin Arvizo or the accusers in LN were credible at all. I think they were all chancers with agendas of their own. I also believe MJ was molested as a child- I think the signs are all pointing that he was. And I think the cycle went on unfortunately.