Michael and Dave Kay #5 I wouldn’t go out of my way for a vaccine.

[nogodsnomouse]

Didn’t he say a while ago the patreon money was not just for content creation but to pay for “rent”, food and everyday expenses?

I fully believe that Patreon is what's keeping him afloat enough to keep beating the dead horse that is his YT channel. I still don't think he's working or at least working in any capacity like he was when he moved down.
I think his Patreon + YT money was paying is $2500-$3000 (estimated) mortgage. Now? Yikes.
It's all estimated, but according to a Patreon estimator and Social blade he is, BEST case, bringing in $2800. That's pretax AND cut from Patreon.

A perfect storm of his own creation has been slowly brewing and is hitting him. He's losing people watching/commenting. He's losing Patreons month over month. He's clearly not getting *generous gift cards* like he was. Even before fumbling the bag with his cruise video, he was already showing he wasn't going to grow/adapt to what theme parks are looking for.

A year ago, his videos mostly averaged 10k+ views. Now? Half that in many cases. I think he's stuck in a perpetual wheel of tit.

He SHOULD stop doing videos for a bit, SELL that bleeping house, move into a more reasonable house/apartment/condo, take time to seek help from a licensed professional because it's pretty clear he has something that is unaddressed/untreated, focus on a job, STAY OUT OF THEME PARKS, and then reevaluate what his channel should be going forward.

Instead he's going to continue to let his ego drag him down until he reaches a point where he isn't able to just walk away unscathed. Heck, he might already be in the hole and we just don't know it yet.

 

[2020planner]

Michael has dabbled in honesty from time to time.

Yeah, he said it was just OK. But he wouldn't go out of his way for it.

 

[wtc50e]

He has to have a job why else would the vlogs go from everyday to three times a week?

 

[nogodsnomouse]

He has to have a job why else would the vlogs go from everyday to three times a week?

I thought he did that because his "content" was tit. Like, he was literally releasing tit every day and decided to release tit every other day.

 

[Lemonsqueeze]

Dave should be committing to his family and if he isn't stop advertising Thanksgiving as Friendsgiving which is not a good thing to inspire the country of doing other than family! He can travel to see friends like I care but to do it on Thanksgiving is despicable. Is his so called friends also not using the time to their families. At the end of the day stop promoting the wrong thing or using a lousy excuse getaway so like we don't ask you are you going to be with family because we will still ask you no matter.*

 

[starri]

Dave should be committing to his family and if he isn't stop advertising Thanksgiving as Friendsgiving which is not a good thing to inspire the country of doing other than family! He can travel to see friends like I care but to do it on Thanksgiving is despicable. Is his so called friends also not using the time to their families. At the end of the day stop promoting the wrong thing or using a lousy excuse getaway so like we don't ask you are you going to be with family because we will still ask you no matter.*

Lots of people have reasons for doing Thanksgiving in a particular way. Most years, I've been on call, so that puts me off. I additionally was disowned by my mother when I got gay-married, so there's that too. So I'd rather spend the day with my husband and anyone in my chosen family who by choice or circumstance is in the same boat.

My apologies for being despicable.

 

[TheNextStacey]

He has to have a job why else would the vlogs go from everyday to three times a week?

I believe he shifted from daily vlogs over a year ago (maybe November 2020?). He discussed it at length on his Patreon chats, and at first it was supposed to be a test/temporary, in order to focus on quality. Yeah, that really worked out...

 

[VloggerCritic]

He thanks 101 Patrons in his latest video. I know Patreon takes a cut but you have to be in the $20 a month tier to get that mention so that is $2,020 a month right there. If we average out the remaining 120 Patrons between the $5 and $9.99 tiers that is another $900 a month estimated.

I agree though these numbers don't add up to me. He is either getting significant direct donations via PayPal or other cash apps or he has a job of some sort.

 

[Whatthevlog]

I agree though these numbers don't add up to me. He is either getting significant direct donations via PayPal or other cash apps or he has a job of some sort.

It's been mentioned here before, but I wouldn't doubt that Mikey and the rest of the Kays have some sort of trust fund.

It would make sense to me if it's a monthly payout because it could explain how these dummies can qualify for half a million dollar home loans.

 

[Dont Call Them Creators]

My how the views have fallen for poor Mike. 3 years ago 355,000+ down to 5,000 now. He needs to just pack it up and try to get his life in order.

Well at least he has his Patreons to assist in his grifting since the views are so low. Hopefully someone who is better educated on the YT payout can let us know if 5-10K videos will sustain his cost of living. The mortgage alone on his Windermere mini-mansion should eat a lot of his ”pay.”

 

[theone74733]

Do we know if Michael is still working with the Department of State in some capacity? I saw his Linkedin and it shows him being an IT Specialist from October 2020 - Present. I know some people that don't update their Linkedin profiles often so not sure if he is unemployed or still working there.

I know medical and dental premiums must be expensive eating away at his Patreon income unless he is still pulling in benefits at Dept. of State.

 

[Lemonsqueeze]

Lots of people have reasons for doing Thanksgiving in a particular way. Most years, I've been on call, so that puts me off. I additionally was disowned by my mother when I got gay-married, so there's that too. So I'd rather spend the day with my husband and anyone in my chosen family who by choice or circumstance is in the same boat.

My apologies for being despicable.

Dave should still call it thanksgiving no matter who he's with and not. Dave's problem is like we need to know absolutely everything about him.

 

[SharaMcG]

It's been mentioned here before, but I wouldn't doubt that Mikey and the rest of the Kays have some sort of trust fund.

It would make sense to me if it's a monthly payout because it could explain how these dummies can qualify for half a million dollar home loans.

I've thought this for a while. I think Grandma is very comfortable, so to speak, and set up a trust fund for each grandchild. I can't imagine how either of those two numbskulls could otherwise have come up with down payments plus other closing costs for their McMansions.

 

[Savgeo9872]

He thanks 101 Patrons in his latest video. I know Patreon takes a cut but you have to be in the $20 a month tier to get that mention so that is $2,020 a month right there. If we average out the remaining 120 Patrons between the $5 and $9.99 tiers that is another $900 a month estimated.

I agree though these numbers don't add up to me. He is either getting significant direct donations via PayPal or other cash apps or he has a job of some sort.

Does he have a secret Patreon only Only Fans out there?

 

[Ponyhans]

I think Mickey have some kind of day job. He's usually in the parks in the evenings nowdays. Why would he film after it gets dark if he could film during daylight?

 

[starri]

Dave should still call it thanksgiving no matter who he's with and not.

Why? What does it matter to anyone else?

 

[2020planner]

Why? What does it matter to anyone else?

Not to defend, but these bleeping vloggers put their lives out there. So yeah, if they throw stuff out there - i.e." friendsgiving" - people are going to wonder. Or else why are any of us here?

I presumed the initial inquiry w/ @Lemonsqueeze - it was determined awhile back on another thread that English is not her first language - is more about why Dave and Mikey aren't seemingly on speaking terms at the moment - and why they wouldn't be together (living so near to each other as brothers) on Thanksgiving. It seems to have happened since the COVID issue with DCL.

(BTW, I wouldn't take the "friendsgiving" comment she made personally. I gained a handful of unwanted pounds during COVID but every time someone trashes Jenn Tracker for gaining a few pounds, I don't think they're talking about me. )

 

[PeanutButterCup28]

If you feel like sleeping in today, Michael's airline comparison video should do the trick. I watched 1-2 minutes. He just sits in a terminal stating that in the past few weeks he's flown on 3 different airlines. Of course, he can't say why he's flown so much, but is now an expert on all these airlines. Riveting per usual.

 

[starri]

Not to defend, but these bleeping vloggers put their lives out there. So yeah, if they throw stuff out there - i.e." friendsgiving" - people are going to wonder. Or else why are any of us here?

Right, but vloggers didn't invent "Friendsgiving" as a term. And even if they did, I hardly think Dave Kay of all people would cause society to unravel by using it.

BTW, I wouldn't take the "friendsgiving" comment she made personally.

I'm sorry, but being told that it's wrong to not spend Thanksgiving with your toxic family and that it's "despicable" is goddamn insulting, directed towards me or not.

 

[nogodsnomouse]

I think Mickey have some kind of day job. He's usually in the parks in the evenings nowdays. Why would he film after it gets dark if he could film during daylight?

It's possible, for sure.
The core issue (job, no job. vaxx, no vaxx) is you literally cannot trust a single thing from him.
The fact he still has "help pay rent" (when he's paying a mortgage on a house) in his Patreon shows he knows he needs to be perceived as the "guy just trying to make it at Disney World".
At this point, he might have a job, but I'm still inclined to think not. He was pretty "open" about having a job when he moved down. I feel like he'd be "open" about it now to grift more money or excuse his crappy content.
In reality, if he has no job, he's only going in the evenings because either he's got his park passes filled up except one and he has to keep refreshing to get something OR he's hit that burn out that people who move to Orlando to "GO TO DISNEY ALL THE TIME" do.

If you feel like sleeping in today, Michael's airline comparison video should do the trick. I watched 1-2 minutes. He just sits in a terminal stating that in the past few weeks he's flown on 3 different airlines. Of course, he can't say why he's flown so much, but is now an expert on all these airlines. Riveting per usual.

Ah yes the expert flyer...
Still betting on the fact he's been going to DC for job interviews/moving stuff or just to keep kissing Grandma's ring to get money.