Itās a very strange flex. I mean she could have said she was in active labour for 15-18 hrs which is the truth and itās not nothing, but itās in the realm of normal or regular. But, given many women have light labour pains for a couple of days before actually getting to active labour, 62 hrs would be normal for many. I am over 36 weeks at the moment and for the past few days have had some cramping pains, probably Braxton Hicks, but if I started counting now and then went into labour it would be longer than 62hrs. Itās just not a number you should count. If your able to exercise, do housework, eat, cook dinner, watch a movie, sleep, you are not in labour.Why over exaggerate the hours of birth, when my sister had her babies, sure she was taken in a few hours earlier but if you ask her how long she was in labour?
1 hour is her answer
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Lol she got the epidural at 3cm
Jessie says that breaking her leg was more painful than childbirthā¦. Butā¦ she also had an epidural. Could that have been a relevant factor. 
Christ.
At pains to point out how āeasyā she finds it looking after the baby, and how she is āin heavenā. How easy and natural bf is for her.
Giiiiirl. I feel bad for new mums listening to this crap and thinking that this is an accurate description of childbirth and postpartum. I thought people had long since stopped bullshitting about the bliss of it all but not Jessie.
Holly and Mia (but particularly Holly) have spoken very honestly about new parenthood in the past. It was palpable how much side eye Holly wouldāve been giving as Jessie banged on endlessly about how easy she has found it all.
Christ.At pains to point out how āeasyā she finds it looking after the baby, and how she is āin heavenā. How easy and natural bf is for her.
Giiiiirl. I feel bad for new mums listening to this crap and thinking that this is an accurate description of childbirth and postpartum. I thought people had long since stopped bullshitting about the bliss of it all but not Jessie.
Holly and Mia (but particularly Holly) have spoken very honestly about new parenthood in the past. It was palpable how much side eye Holly wouldāve been giving as Jessie banged on endlessly about how easy she has found it all.
And no shame to anyone, but she made a huge deal out of the perfect timing so it sounds like she was trying to hold off, but actually she was in very early labour. People walk around for weeks at 3cm.
I was literally teaching 6 year olds for an entire week at 3cm dilated and thought that level of pain was normal for the end of pregnancy
love that she kept the epi on the down low til now. Thanks for the recap so I donāt have to endure listening to that drivelTo be fair, someone can be contracting heavily and in a lot of pain but not progressing much while someone else could be walking around at 3cm and not feeling anything. I didnāt feel much until 6cm with my first, but I wouldnāt judge someone who felt more pain before that point. I have pretty crappy pregnancies with HG, so labour is the easy part for me. Definitely found the recap of the birth story amusing, though, and agree that her report of a 60 hour labour was highly exaggerated!I was literally teaching 6 year olds for an entire week at 3cm dilated and thought that level of pain was normal for the end of pregnancy
I'm glad not everyone sucks up to Jessie/Mia.Attachments
Was this on the MMOL Insta?
I canāt find the comments?
When I saw the podcast in my feed I was like, do we really need just under an hour reliving your birth story?
Jessie's IG post
The person that Newhere2 screenshots above is right. Everyone wants to talk about birth after having a baby. It is totally self indulgent to dedicate a whole podcast to it. Really surprised that Mia and Holly didnāt point this out to her. She will cringe in 5 years time.
They are getting a bit too much like the Kardashianās in the over sharing
They are getting a bit too much like the Kardashianās in the over sharing
Look, this might be unpopular, but I actually think it is perfectly okay for women to want to share their positive birth stories, and I strongly feel that it is unfair to suggest that a woman cannot do so for fear of upsetting someone else who had a traumatic experience. I am absolutely on board with content and/or trigger warnings, so that people can choose to avoid content that is triggering or upsetting for them. Of course we shouldnāt go around sharing our stories with others at random and without permission. However, many people enjoy listening to positive birth stories. I especially loved them prior to having my first child, and I still love listening to podcasts like Australian Birth Stories. Some will find them indulgent and thatās fine, but they have a place.
Many, many women have positive birth experiences and I donāt see why everything must be doom and gloom about birth. That leads to unnecessary fear and worry for new mums. I completely agree that Jessie warrants criticism for inflating the length of her labour etc, but if she or any other mum feels like they would relive their birth experience, that doesnāt take away from another personās traumatic experience and their right to grieve that. Lots of women love pregnancy ā but for me it is horrendous, endless nausea and vomiting with not a second of relief until the placenta is out. Iām not going to go around saying other women canāt share that they enjoyed their pregnancies, just because I have feelings of deep sadness around my own experiences. So Iām not sure why I canāt say that Iād happily give birth over again, because that has been the good part for me. Iāve had women who judged me for needing anti-emetics to survive pregnancy get up in arms and tell me I was silly for not having pain relief in labour.
I think the real issues arise where we donāt acknowledge that we have been fortunate in a certain domain and that others arenāt less successful etc because theyāve struggled. Thatās probably more the issue with Jessie than her having a positive birth story.
Everyone is different. I was induced so from zero to full on contractions in a matter on minutes. Every two mins for 13 hrs and was only at 3cm..U better believe I got the bloody epidural at that point.
Oh sameEveryone is different. I was induced so from zero to full on contractions in a matter on minutes. Every two mins for 13 hrs and was only at 3cm..U better believe I got the bloody epidural at that point.
I made to 6cm at 8 hours. I didnāt realise you were supposed to have breaks in between contractions until I did the labour class again when pregnant with my second 
. Totally different to this situation!Sheās talking as if labour isnāt that bad and she held off until the āperfect momentā, which was really just as soon as she got there. As soon as she couldnāt talk through contractions, which is when midwives usually say itās time to head to hospital.
Thereās no prize for labour. Itās not a competition. The whole ā62 hoursā and then simultaneously trying to say it was hard, but actually it wasnāt because sheās amazing is just
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Hahaha yes, I had no idea either ! Just wondered how people do it when there was literally no time to catch my breath. Boo to being inducedOh same
Sheās talking as if labour isnāt that bad and she held off until the āperfect momentā, which was really just as soon as she got there. As soon as she couldnāt talk through contractions, which is when midwives usually say itās time to head to hospital.
Thereās no prize for labour. Itās not a competition. The whole ā62 hoursā and then simultaneously trying to say it was hard, but actually it wasnāt because sheās amazing is just
. Ah I see, so soon as it got a little tough she was out. I started listening but lost interest
. The 62 hrs thing is just cringe. She's on that post birth high and telling all from the rooftops. Give it a few months.
I agree with sharing positive birth stories but I do think peopleās issue with Jessie is the attention seeking efforts, the inflating stories and everything being turned into self promotion. I would also add that during the telling of her story, all three of them ventured into valuing one type of birth over others. From someone who had really positive csection stories I am fully open and expressive of how wonderful they were for me, but it does seem that that is not accepted as āsharingā a positive story. It seems to be only one type of birth and itās to e one that Jessie had. It does seem disingenuous by all three of them to talk about this birth as just one mother telling her story when itās actually being used for a multiple of dollar making uses, as the āperfectā birth story. Would she be sharing it as openly if it wasnāt all she had dreamt of? Probably not.
Oh yeah, for sure! My comments were more specifically around that one person who felt that itās a slap in the face to say āyou loved your birth and would relive that painā. Jessieās vibe is definitelyā¦ self inflating, I agree. The 62 hours labour thing is absolutely silly. In retrospect I probably had a day of contractions that I thought were just BH before my first birth, but I wouldnāt count that. I do know that I felt quite a high after my births and was keen to process them. I donāt think thatās awful, but itās how you go about it. Iām sure if youāve had a difficult birth, you need more time to process before talking.
Jessie and Mia irritate me, donāt get me wrong. I havenāt listened to the story in full and Iām sure some of it is insufferable and also knowing Mamamia contains inaccurate comments about labour (Iām still a bit bitter about the HG controversy recently). Iām a huge believer in the idea that any type of birth can be positive, the key is how the birthing person feels about it.
I am an avid reader of these threads and also a regular listener of Outloud. I adore Holly, I think sheās the star of the show and must have the patience of a saint to record a daily podcast with the other two.
I rarely comment on here but I genuinely cannot believe they called the podcast on Jessieās birth an āemergencyā podcast. Just unreal. They are supposed to be a news and media company, not podcastings answer to the Kardashians. I get recording the episode so quickly after the birth to capture it all, and the need to share her story but goodness gracious, itās not the Wimbledon final, it didnāt need an emergency podcast immediately after the birth to capitalise on the situation. Listeners could have hung on for another month if theyād just recorded it and kept in the archives to go at a later date ffs.
I rarely comment on here but I genuinely cannot believe they called the podcast on Jessieās birth an āemergencyā podcast. Just unreal. They are supposed to be a news and media company, not podcastings answer to the Kardashians. I get recording the episode so quickly after the birth to capture it all, and the need to share her story but goodness gracious, itās not the Wimbledon final, it didnāt need an emergency podcast immediately after the birth to capitalise on the situation. Listeners could have hung on for another month if theyād just recorded it and kept in the archives to go at a later date ffs.
Iām just happy it was on a separate episode so I could hit delete straight away (and hope it doesnāt sneak up again through other eps)
I feel so sorry for Holly. Outloud has literally become 'Mia's family news show.' Holly could go to any podcast anywhere and do well!
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