Madeleine McCann

[Ohflogoff]

sickened to read what was said by the friend

 

[KateESJ]

We will make mistakes and I'm far from a perfect parent.
I closed my car door the other day and it banged her on the head whilst she was doing up her belt . Thats a mistake.

Leaving your kids unattended so you can get pissed and eat you tea in peace is nothing but serious neglect.

!! Yep.

Whether they meant for it to happen or not, leaving your child alone is a conscious choice that they made. It's not like they had an emergency which led them to have no choice but to leave the children, they all made the decision to leave the children alone.

It's a lapse of judgement that resulted in tragedy, sure, but I wouldn't call it a kind of parenting mistake that we all make...

 

[monga]

By posting this guy's identity has this not blown any case they'd have against him ?

 

[Tattlingpineapple]

As a German, I am convinced that the police have really good evidence. Compared to other countries I'd say we have a justice system that protects suspects a lot. For example material from suveillance cameras is often only published as a last resort (after weeks or months if other investigations were unsuccessful) in order to protect the identity of suspects and so they're not publicy stigmatized for the rest of their lives. There was quite a shitstorm one or two years ago after an attack on a woman in a metro station because police waited months (edit: just checked. It was only six weeks but still many people were angry...) to publish surveillance camera material... Anyways. They wouldn't go public if they weren't sure it was him.

 

[Eglo]

So you think her parents just handed her over to the German weirdo ??? What was their incentive (if you can call it that in something like this) can you elaborate further? Genuinely intrigued as never heard this theory. X

I don’t think handed is the word. I would say hire him. Maybe GM wanted someone else to abuse her and ended up killing her. Or maybe all along Kate and Gerry has planned to go on holiday and get someone to abduct her

I defo don’t think the parents are innocent. I do believe they are linked into the case but they didn’t murder her.

 

[Maxine1974]

As a German, I am convinced that the police have really good evidence. Compared to other countries I'd say we have a justice system that protects suspects a lot. For example material from suveillance cameras is often only published as a last resort (after weeks or months if other investigations were unsuccessful) in order to protect the identity of suspects and so they're not publicy stigmatized for the rest of their lives. There was quite a shitstorm one or two years ago after an attack on a woman in a metro station because police waited months to publish surveillance camera material... Anyways. They wouldn't go public if they weren't sure it was him.

So do you think he took and killed her or took her and “sold” her on?

I don’t think handed is the word. I would say hire him. Maybe GM wanted someone else to abuse her and ended up killing her. Or maybe all along Kate and Gerry has planned to go on holiday and get someone to abduct her

I defo don’t think the parents are innocent. I do believe they are linked into the case but they didn’t murder her.

Interesting take on it. Not sure how I feel about it but genuinely always interested to hear other people’s thoughts on it. But why hire somebody? Why did they want rid of maddie?

 

[LittleMy]

I wonder why they’re showing his full face now. They blurred the face out initially because of “German privacy laws.” What’s changed?

 

[monga]

I wonder why they’re showing his full face now. They blurred the face out initially because of “German privacy laws.” What’s changed?

It's strange if they've no evidence !

 

[Eglo]

Interesting take on it. Not sure how I feel about it but genuinely always interested to hear other people’s thoughts on it. But why hire somebody? Why did they want rid of maddie?

I don’t know. I just feel the way they acted and things they said about her in their book makes it uneasy.
I personally think they hired someone so they didn’t do it Sinceif they did do it they could loose their medical license etc and loose their job.

as for get rid of maddie. Maybe when they went down ivf they wanted twins in the first place so then they won’t need to try again if they wanted a sibling. When maddie was only herself they and then got pregnant again with twins realised she was become difficult. They maybe thought they didn’t want 3 children and with the first being difficult that’s why Gerry maybe abused her.

again. Just my theory.

 

[Charlotte987]

I wonder why they’re showing his full face now. They blurred the face out initially because of “German privacy laws.” What’s changed?

I'm not sure if anyone else noticed but the initial news stories around lunchtime today said that he had been charged, but they were all changed not long after

 

[Beckyboo85]

I'm not sure if anyone else noticed but the initial news stories around lunchtime today said that he had been charged, but they were all changed not long after

The German man doing the press conference on Sky - can’t remember his job title sorry was having his information translated. The translator said to be charged with murder originally but this has obviously been changed since to the correct translation. I know as I gasped and called my Mum to tell her...and now look daft haha x

 

[thegreencow]

I'm not sure if anyone else noticed but the initial news stories around lunchtime today said that he had been charged, but they were all changed not long after

If this is true then they might've asked the press no to release anything so not to jeopardise anything. They might not want Christian to know that it's public if he's currently talking to the authorities. They wouldn't charge him without solid, solid evidence after this long I don't think.

 

[AnnaJ]

Okay. Here’s my theories ...

theory one
i think the parents AND their friends had some involvement I reckon after reading the new stories that K&G hired this German man to take Maddie.
the phone call the man made before taking her may of been to someone that they had planned to take the body off of the German man.
They drugged her so she wouldn’t resist abduction.
killed her in the apartment (Hence why blood and death could be sniffed out ). Took her in his campervan. And took the person I mentioned above.
That’s why Kate ran back and said “they’ve taken her”.

Before this week I always believed it was the parents. Now I reckon they didn’t do it but had involvement. or they didn’t know but knew their friends had been in touch with the German man.

I think if my above theory is correct Kate does regret what she did to Maddie but always knew she was dead so that’s why they took so long to contact police
If the theory above is right that would be why the twins weren’t taken as well because K&G had arranged to take only one.
Sorry about being long.

I do hope she isn’t alive (as much as it sound horrid) as image coming home after 13 years of horror and abuse trying to get help for it and having the news covering it. All the jokes people have made.
I really hope she died in apartment. Over drugged and brver

The police proved and said Maddie's blood was in the McCann's car, they got cadaver dogs to sniff out their car. Search on Google cuz Gerry tried making some lame excuse like maddie cut ir hurt herself a few days prior to the disappearance

 

[Web30]

I need to read up on this new info but I hope she was killed,, as awful as it sounds if she was trafficed what kind of life would she have had, she will be a very very messed up teen by now if that happened to her!

 

[Notredamn]

I dont know why they've chosen to do it now but it seems like 'if the shoe fits, he can wear it'. Unless there is reasonable evidence and plenty of it, then why name the guy and publish his photo. What the the police, and the UK press playing at?

 

[Onthehop]

Im unsurprised to hear this. For the record although I don't think the McCann's had anything to do with her disappearance I do think they were massively negligent and got away with that because they were an affluent middle class professional couple, and I've no doubt that had a working class couple done the same thing they'd have been torn to shreds by the press. Its never been normal in my world to leave your children unattended in a hotel room in a foreign country, especially when a babysitting service was provided. Its just pure lunacy.

I also don't think Kate was a 'natural mother' in that it was no secret she struggled to control Maddie, who by all accounts a bit of a livewire (a normal toddler in other words). The family had a full time nanny, despite the fact that Kate only worked part time. The nanny was meant to go with them to Portugal but couldn't go for whatever reason. I mean who takes a nanny on holiday with them?! I wonder why people like even have children when they clearly can't be arsed parenting them themselves!

Exactly. What I felt was so strange at the time that their 3 very young children (toddlers) were in kids club ALL day and then the parents were out socialising every night. They spent so little time with their children on holiday. Why bother even taking them? Very odd.

 

[Whatliesbeneath]

The police proved and said Maddie's blood was in the McCann's car, they got cadaver dogs to sniff out their car. Search on Google cuz Gerry tried making some lame excuse like maddie cut ir hurt herself a few days prior to the disappearance

and the fact the car was not rented until AFTER the investigation started!!!

 

[Moley1]

I dont know why they've chosen to do it now but it seems like 'if the shoe fits, he can wear it'. Unless there is reasonable evidence and plenty of it, then why name the guy and publish his photo. What the the police, and the UK press playing at?

This is all very odd. The German’s seem sure that she is dead but our guys are still saying she is a missing person. This guy has been on the suspect list for years. What has changed now to make him a prime suspect? I read somewhere that the evidence is still “circumstantial” which is no different to before you would think. Perhaps someone has come forward and said something? They have an awful lot of information on him which they would have had at the time. I hope that there is closure, but what must the hundreds of parents of missing children be thinking when their cases were dropped years ago and this rolls on and on. And like everyone else I wonder why on Earth the McCanns have not been charged with child neglect. There was absolutely no reason not to provide the children with a sitter.

 

[abitfairytale]

Exactly. What I felt was so strange at the time that their 3 very young children (toddlers) were in kids club ALL day and then the parents were out socialising every night. They spent so little time with their children on holiday. Why bother even taking them? Very odd.

I work in a nursery, believe me this is more than normal. Not my idea of a family holiday if you dont spend time together but for some families this is the norm definitely.

 

[monga]

If this is true then they might've asked the press no to release anything so not to jeopardise anything. They might not want Christian to know that it's public if he's currently talking to the authorities. They wouldn't charge him without solid, solid evidence after this long I don't think.

I don't think they have any evidence ,that's the strange thing why bring it up now when this has been known for the past 3yrs. Wouldn't releasing all these details about this guy jeopardize any case they would have against him