Don’t mean to argue, but if I remember correctly, they found “something” that led them to believe that Ben has died in the accident as was stated. There was understandably a lot of press during the excavation, they found a scrap of clothing or toy I think, but drew no conclusions, but then the press suddenly went quiet. I’m sure the UK police then made a statement that although they hadn’t found his body, something else had been discovered that led the police to conclude he had died. No more detail was given. I thought it was out of respect for his family, who *i think* made a statement that they accepted the police decision.
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It was the little boy’s toy he had at the time.
I read earlier that the German Police know how Maddie was killed and surely if this is the case they will be able to find her body either through a lead that comes of the investigation or a plea deal with the suspect. I don't understand why they've named him but blurred his face. If you want information then you release the whole photo unblurred so people can either say 'yes I saw him' or 'no I didn't see him'
I always believed that Madeleine was drugged and they accidentally overdosed her. When Kate went to check on the kids it was obvious Madeleine had passed away so Kate needed to think fast. She took the body and dumped it somewhere (likely at sea), gone back to the apartment to stage the disappearance and ran to the restaurant and had to pretend Madeleine had been kidnapped. The words 'they've taken her' are significant to me. Who took her? It could've been a slip of the tongue and she meant that God/angels had taken her to heaven. We know they're very religious so it could've been referring to that. I'm not sure what the catholic beliefs about death are though. How would Kate know Madeleine had been kidnapped at that point? For all she knew she could've been hiding in the apartment somewhere. Madeleine was 3 and kids do that sometimes.
Whatever happened I do hope Madeleine is found soon. Even if she's somehow alive and doesn't want to return to return to her family it would be some closure. If she's dead then she can be brought home and buried. Either way; there are still some very big questions to be answered about what happened that night and the investigation.
I always believed that Madeleine was drugged and they accidentally overdosed her. When Kate went to check on the kids it was obvious Madeleine had passed away so Kate needed to think fast. She took the body and dumped it somewhere (likely at sea), gone back to the apartment to stage the disappearance and ran to the restaurant and had to pretend Madeleine had been kidnapped. The words 'they've taken her' are significant to me. Who took her? It could've been a slip of the tongue and she meant that God/angels had taken her to heaven. We know they're very religious so it could've been referring to that. I'm not sure what the catholic beliefs about death are though. How would Kate know Madeleine had been kidnapped at that point? For all she knew she could've been hiding in the apartment somewhere. Madeleine was 3 and kids do that sometimes.
Whatever happened I do hope Madeleine is found soon. Even if she's somehow alive and doesn't want to return to return to her family it would be some closure. If she's dead then she can be brought home and buried. Either way; there are still some very big questions to be answered about what happened that night and the investigation.
Yes your right the police believe he died in an accident the day he went missing, but his mum Kerry continues to fight on to find the truth. It was a toy they found but as no body has ever been discovered she can't find closure .I'm in a FB group she's set up he would have been 30 now but she's still trying to find out what happened him.
Interesting theories.
I’ve always been interested in the case, I was only eight when it broke and it stuck with me. I find it all so dreadfully sad. I’ve had suspicions about the parents but at the same time always hoped I’d be proved wrong...
I swear I remember hearing about the Cadaver dogs finding scent on Madeleine‘s toy, Kate’s clothes and behind the sofa in the apartment as well as in the hire car. The thing is wouldn’t that suggest that Madeleine was asleep or holding the toy when she passed away? Especially because Kate said when she went into the room she found Cuddle Cat on a ledge and ‘knew that a crime had been committed then’ because Madeleine always fell asleep with the toy. So I don’t think the abduction theory holds up in that case does it because surely you wouldn’t kill someone and then go on to abduct them, surely it’d be the other way around? Disclaimer my grasp of logic and cadaver dog knowledge is very limited.
I swear I remember hearing about the Cadaver dogs finding scent on Madeleine‘s toy, Kate’s clothes and behind the sofa in the apartment as well as in the hire car. The thing is wouldn’t that suggest that Madeleine was asleep or holding the toy when she passed away? Especially because Kate said when she went into the room she found Cuddle Cat on a ledge and ‘knew that a crime had been committed then’ because Madeleine always fell asleep with the toy. So I don’t think the abduction theory holds up in that case does it because surely you wouldn’t kill someone and then go on to abduct them, surely it’d be the other way around? Disclaimer my grasp of logic and cadaver dog knowledge is very limited.
Ben needhams case is just awful, wasn't their a theory that his body was likely buried under one of the new housing developments that the builder was working on?
So you think her parents just handed her over to the German weirdo ??? What was their incentive (if you can call it that in something like this) can you elaborate further? Genuinely intrigued as never heard this theory. X
She washed cuddle cat as well not sure if anyone remembers. If that doesn't scream guilty I dont know what does.I’ve always been interested in the case, I was only eight when it broke and it stuck with me. I find it all so dreadfully sad. I’ve had suspicions about the parents but at the same time always hoped I’d be proved wrong...
I swear I remember hearing about the Cadaver dogs finding scent on Madeleine‘s toy, Kate’s clothes and behind the sofa in the apartment as well as in the hire car. The thing is wouldn’t that suggest that Madeleine was asleep or holding the toy when she passed away? Especially because Kate said when she went into the room she found Cuddle Cat on a ledge and ‘knew that a crime had been committed then’ because Madeleine always fell asleep with the toy. So I don’t think the abduction theory holds up in that case does it because surely you wouldn’t kill someone and then go on to abduct them, surely it’d be the other way around? Disclaimer my grasp of logic and cadaver dog knowledge is very limited.
I believe so, I think this is why his body has never been found
I don’t understand the theories saying that they “gave” Madeleine away. I get that it’s someone else’s take on things, but to me that just seems like a lot of bullshit. She was the child they wanted so much that they went down the route of IVF to conceive her. I guess you could say “why did they leave her in the room alone then?” to counter that, but a huge lapse in judgement/being a careless parent makes more sense to me than plotting to have her taken away/abducted/sent to a pedalo ring to be abused.
There are so many different theories with this case. So many. That’s why it’s of interest to the general public. Very little of the information has actually been proved . The only things we definitely know are that The children were left alone on that evening and Madeleine was gone later that evening. That’s it. Everything else is hearsay and rumour. No wonder there are so many differing opinions.
Yes the police think that's what happened ,but nothing was ever proved and the son of the builder denies his father did any wrong doing .His mum continues to search for him..
We will make mistakes and I'm far from a perfect parent.
I closed my car door the other day and it banged her on the head whilst she was doing up her belt
. Thats a mistake.Leaving your kids unattended so you can get pissed and eat you tea in peace is nothing but serious neglect.
Exactly. It’s got to the point where people are passing off rumours as facts.
Yes must say this is what I’m struggling with. Nobody would just give their child to an organised sex ring surely??? I have heard of very poor and desperate families in places like the Philippines etc who sell their children but this case bares no similarities. Even if you were been blackmailed you’d never hand over your child. This theory does seem a bit too elaborate but hey who knows
I can totally understand that. I think I would be the same.
Exactly ! neglect of the highest order .We will make mistakes and I'm far from a perfect parent.
I closed my car door the other day and it banged her on the head whilst she was doing up her belt
Leaving your kids unattended so you can get pissed and eat you tea in peace is nothing but serious neglect.
Jesus it's bad enough they left alone ,but the thought they gave her to a sex ring I couldn't comprehend .They'd need hung ,drawn and quartered if that were the case.Yes must say this is what I’m struggling with. Nobody would just give their child to an organised sex ring surely??? I have heard of very poor and desperate families in places like the Philippines etc who sell their children but this case bares no similarities. Even if you were been blackmailed you’d never hand over your child. This theory does seem a bit too elaborate but hey who knows
The Daily Fail have posted the German suspect’s full face now.
It's more plausible that they didn't give her away, I agree, but it's also not implausible. Sadly it does happen
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