Its not gossip or speculation that the parents should not be charged with being neglectful parents leaving them alone due to choosing to wine and dine.However neglectful these parents were (and nobody here is disputing that) until Madeleine (or her body) is found then I'll still keep on the fence. Until the authorities that matter have enough to charge someone with her death, it's still all gossip and speculation.
I never said they shouldn't be charged with being neglectful. I actually said that nobody is disputing the fact that they were. Because they absolutely were, they shouldn't have gone out and left those children alone.Its not gossip or speculation that the parents should not be charged with being neglectful parents leaving them alone due to choosing to wine and dine.
That shouldve happened. A lesson to others not to do that.
Its not like they ran out of baby milk or food and went to get it for their kids they made a self indulgent choice to dine and socialise for their benefit.
Thats a fact right? That was established they left them to meet others for the night. They switched off from parenting their babies and toddlers and thats a crime as far as I know it.
Thats WRONG in anyones eyes to do that. As a pstent it is your job to care for your babies or get someone too.
It shouldnt have been overlooked.
Especially since the nightmare consquence which was no fault of a defenseless toddler who could be anywhere dead or alive all because of a selfish parental choice.
Made by BOTH of them!
BOTH in agreement to go out and dine and switch off from patental duties with no plan for a babysitter in place
I WILL judge them for that bit. Absolutely.
Wow, I’ve never seen that before, and although I’ve always tried to keep an open mind on this case he does sound pretty convincing.https://www.facebook.com/
I remember seeing this detective talk about them on YouTube once.
I cant find his other videos though.
But I found that link anyway. I never understood why at the very least the parents were not seen as neglectful.
Having left more than one kid is bad enough but then one goes missing?
Im baffled by that. They went to dine AND booze ABROAD on holiday leaving defenseless INFANTS!
Why no punishment for the pair of them for that wreckless choice?
I thought so when I heard him.Wow, I’ve never seen that before, and although I’ve always tried to keep an open mind on this case he does sound pretty convincing.
Please Dont take it personalI never said they shouldn't be charged with being neglectful. I actually said that nobody is disputing the fact that they were. Because they absolutely were, they shouldn't have gone out and left those children alone.
Pretty sure it’s because the Portuguese cannot upgrade/add to charges, they have to have the right charge at the beginning.https://www.facebook.com/
I remember seeing this detective talk about them on YouTube once.
I cant find his other videos though.
But I found that link anyway. I never understood why at the very least the parents were not seen as neglectful.
Having left more than one kid is bad enough but then one goes missing?
Im baffled by that. They went to dine AND booze ABROAD on holiday leaving defenseless INFANTS!
Why no punishment for the pair of them for that wreckless choice?
Glad to see this thread is still going and that many of you now know a lot of the hidden truths I was shut down for stating!
There is so much that was never released to the public that was published in the police files yet so many people here (as in this country) are adamant the mccanns are innocent victims of child abduction.
There is no way poor Madeleine left the room alive, her blood was splashed up the wall and tiles which Kate had attempted to bleach away and hide by rearranging the room. The dogs still alerted to it and her clothes that she claimed to wear around dead bodies at work (the reason they had the scent of death on them in her words). Her surgery released a statement she was never in the role to check dead bodies and had never been around any at work.
The disgusting comment she made about madeleines perfect genitals being ripped apart makes my skin crawl. I think she said it on the possible chance madeleines body was found so they can claim a pedalo done it to her. When there’s no doubt in my mind she was being abused and there would be physical signs of that. There is no parent on this earth who would comfortably have that image in their mind and speak it out loud.
Apparently Kate was a complete psycho so it wouldn’t surprise me if she lashed out because Madeleine had disturbed her. It was true she couldn’t cope with Madeleine and wasn’t allowed to be left alone with her. Even at home relatives would have to be there if gerry wasn’t. She wanted to give up Madeleine for adoption to relatives when they got home from pdl, a statement Gerry’s family released. She clearly didn’t like her very much and it makes me sad to think she wasn’t a typical happy loved child.
As for those saying how could they have killed her and moved her as they were being watched. Ignore that myth it isn’t true. The news were on the look out for a crazed man kidnapping toddlers, they were not watching the mccanns. They gave them privacy, they were not suspects and were free to do as they please (tennis!). They went for long drives and walks and the news reporters disappeared overnight giving them plenty of time. They used distraction techniques, keys for the church for example. They had every opportunity to move Madeleine. Remember the hire car had madeleines defrosting blood in the boot AFTER she went missing. It was well planned out and they were well protected by someone. The PJ we’re onto them and that’s what ruined their plans, they never expected anyone to cotton on. The woman cancelled her grocery delivery when realising Madeleine was gone for heavens sake!
I still maintain my belief Madeleine was being rented out and the royal boat docked nearby that night still makes me shudder too. Whatever causes madeleines death, it certainly happened in that hotel room and all her so called parents cared about was saving their own arses. The drugged and clumsily climbed and fell theory seems the most plausible, but Kate’s reenactment of madeleines head being ‘clonked’ seems too much like a real memory being played out to me.
The mcanns are still suspects in Portugal and can be arrested for it if they return. They had enough evidence to put them in prison but our government for some reason stepped in and saved them.
is it common knowledge about Kate not being allowed on her own with Madeleine? Was that just Madeleine or the twins as well?Oh my GOD!! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!! I've just casually looked at this thread...
I'm just getting my head around what I just read.. Blood splashed up the walls? Is that true? Please forgive my shock but jaysus!! Where did you find this out?
I’ve seen most things in forums discussing MM over the years. Supporters of the McCanns do exactly that - and then post it all over Twitter or other forums with screenshots to discredit the forums.If you wanted to discredit these threads (which on the whole are sensible & thoughtful) sending in a wild spammer like chicken man is exactly what you would do no?
Me too. They couldn’t even see the apartment from where they were sitting because there was a Perspex side panel there as they were sitting under a marquee type structure. Also, if you stood the other side of the side panel you perhaps could see their apartment but NOT the room Madeleine slept in, that was the other side of the apartment!I‘m sure I read the McCanns admitted the twins had asked them if they had done something to Madeleine.
The arrogance of Gerry McCann insisting that what they were doing is like having dinner in your garden still bothers me to this day. That and Lorraine Kelly insisting “ We have all done what they did“ Erm no. I don’t know a single parent who has left their children to go on the piss.
Gerry’s sister used to post a lot of private information online during the early days of Madeleine being missing. She clearly didn’t like Kate because shementioned how she couldn’t cope with Madeleine, how Madeleine spent most of her time with other relatives, particularly in Donegal, and that she’d asked those relatives to take her on full time after the holiday. It was whooshed quicker than the hotel fridge, but there may be screen shots of it saved somewhere on the net. During the holiday there were comments about the friends having to supervise Kate so she wasn’t alone with the children. Possibly because she couldn’t cope with 3 toddlers, but could also have been for their safety if Kate wasn’t mentally well, one of those things we’ll never know for sure.is it common knowledge about Kate not being allowed on her own with Madeleine? Was that just Madeleine or the twins as well?
Did she really want to have the girl adopted? Is there any proof of this?
That's Jon Wedger I have followed him for years now.. He helps those abused by the system go back and tackle their demons and say goodbye to the children who didnt make it. here are his FB videos .. Sadly he is not good at headings, so I cant find those I wanted to show but if you scroll to the bottom and go from there you will find some harrowing stuff ( nothing to do with MM though)https://www.facebook.com/
I remember seeing this detective talk about them on YouTube once.
I cant find his other videos though.
But I found that link anyway. I never understood why at the very least the parents were not seen as neglectful.
Having left more than one kid is bad enough but then one goes missing?
Im baffled by that. They went to dine AND booze ABROAD on holiday leaving defenseless INFANTS!
Why no punishment for the pair of them for that wreckless choice?
The dogs were also sent into the apartments where the Tapas 8 were staying and didn't alert to anything.The cadaver dog alerted in the wardrobe in the apartment, the flowerbed outside the apartment and the hire car the McCann's rented after Maddie disappeared. Just how dangerous is this resort if there are traces of corpses everywhere.
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