You know last night I was thinking, and this may be quite an unpopular opinion I know not everybody is going to agree with meā¦
You're so right and speaking the truth. These "influencers" are driven by their hunger for fame, popularity, greed and wealth. Yet those like Lydiot can only point out the harm others might do to her but not for an instant has she ever sat and thought about the lies, fraudulent clams and fake lifestyles she puts out there knowing very young, impressionable people are watching. Just like Lydiot to stand there and point fingers at everyone else but not once has the awareness or insight to think of what negativity she may be putting out to the world. Her stupidity, arrogance and self-righteousness is stunning.She really doesn't get it. Im not going to assume what was going on in Carolines mind and life. Sadly people take their own lives for any number of reasons. I believe she had been having mental health struggles anyway. Unfortunately if you are in the limelight then its kind of expected for people to call you out on your abhorrent behaviour. In CF situation it happened to be the attack on her BF. But Lydiot wants to make it about the media, trolls and bullying again.
What she doesn't understand is there are many ways to make people feel inadequate and worthless. Influencing is definetely one of them.
I do wonder and I hope this never happens (maybe it has and there has been no connection made) but I do wonder what she would say if a parent on social media called her out for being the reason her young impressionable daughter took her own life because she got herself into debt and felt depressed because she was trying to keep up with her lifestyle that she thought was real. Well we all know exactly what she would say. She would probably blame the poor girl. It would be typical Lydia. Ok to blame the media for CF but don't blame me if I was the cause of someone taking their own life. God she makes me sick.
On another note. OMG Ali is dumber than a bag of rocks. Sorry but I could not be with someone that stupid. "cost per value" FFS
What I can say for all of us is we are not making these comments on her blog, videos or posts. Nothing being said directly to her or any of her followers. We have a right to our opinions but we choose to do it separate from her social media and not to her directly at all. If she chooses to come here, however, that's on her completely and nothing we should apologize for. Besides we call out her lies, arrogant and false claims more than anything. I suppose she expects no one to say one thing negative about her. If so, she has lost all sense of reality.You know last night I was thinking, and this may be quite an unpopular opinion I know not everybody is going to agree with meā¦
To be honest even Iām not sure really how I feel about the whole situation, but thereās like a part of me that feels as though (although of course you can never compare Lydia with the likes of Caroline Flack), I can understand that she is also a human and that she might have feelings and that she may read certain things about herself online which will hurt herā¦ I know I personally havenāt made a comment about her appearance (correct me if Iām wrongā¦) But I know for sure Iāve definitely made many comments about her personality and lack of awareness around the real world and sometimes I think to myself are the comments Iām making going a little too far, could this be perhaps the 10th, 20th, 100th comment like this shes seen todayā¦ That could have an impact on anyone, I know if I was reading hundreds of comments like that on a daily basis I would for sure go into deep depression, I know Iād like to Think that perhaps people these people making comments about my life have a point and that maybe I should be looking at my own life and really reflecting on what I am doing as a human and whether my actions are right and whether I should be changing thingsā¦ then thereās the other part of me that thinks well she has the power to remove herself from the situation and this lifestyle and unfortunately with social media and influencing and blogging youāre putting yourself into the limelight and you could easily remove yourself from it as wellā¦ Which I know that Lydia would never want to do because of all the perks that come with it for her. Hence why I said at the beginning that Iām not really sure how I even feel about situation..
Sorry for the ramble, I know this place is somewhere we can all discuss and share our opinions and bring to light some of the ridiculous, stupid and downright annoying Things that Lydia does, or others, on other threadsā¦ So I hope that Iām not the only one feeling this way, donāt get me wrong my opinions of Lydia havenāt really changed, maybe I just feel like I need to take a step back from this page in particular and sharing some of those opinions I have online..
I mean it was only a few months ago, she was going on and on about a petition... so must be reading.
Lol sheāll be overbearing.Has anyone seen Claire Chanelle's new video? She looks so happy and I can imagine her and Paris will be excellent, 'hands-on' parents. I have a feeling she's carrying twins. Lydia is no doubt seething and will probably be launching her own phantom pregnancy in 5,4,3,2,1....
I hear you, but I also think she is a business. And with businesses you take the person-themselves out of it. She basically deletes all negative reviews, in my opinion, so there must be a place for people to discuss and go over her business practices. It would be like any other business deleting bad reviews in order to appear and sell a product with false claims and customer reviews.You know last night I was thinking, and this may be quite an unpopular opinion I know not everybody is going to agree with meā¦
To be honest even Iām not sure really how I feel about the whole situation, but thereās like a part of me that feels as though (although of course you can never compare Lydia with the likes of Caroline Flack), I can understand that she is also a human and that she might have feelings and that she may read certain things about herself online which will hurt herā¦ I know I personally havenāt made a comment about her appearance (correct me if Iām wrongā¦) But I know for sure Iāve definitely made many comments about her personality and lack of awareness around the real world and sometimes I think to myself are the comments Iām making going a little too far, could this be perhaps the 10th, 20th, 100th comment like this shes seen todayā¦ That could have an impact on anyone, I know if I was reading hundreds of comments like that on a daily basis I would for sure go into deep depression, I know Iād like to Think that perhaps people these people making comments about my life have a point and that maybe I should be looking at my own life and really reflecting on what I am doing as a human and whether my actions are right and whether I should be changing thingsā¦ then thereās the other part of me that thinks well she has the power to remove herself from the situation and this lifestyle and unfortunately with social media and influencing and blogging youāre putting yourself into the limelight and you could easily remove yourself from it as wellā¦ Which I know that Lydia would never want to do because of all the perks that come with it for her. Hence why I said at the beginning that Iām not really sure how I even feel about situation..
Sorry for the ramble, I know this place is somewhere we can all discuss and share our opinions and bring to light some of the ridiculous, stupid and downright annoying Things that Lydia does, or others, on other threadsā¦ So I hope that Iām not the only one feeling this way, donāt get me wrong my opinions of Lydia havenāt really changed, maybe I just feel like I need to take a step back from this page in particular and sharing some of those opinions I have online..
I think youāre absolutely right, I have more compassion than most, and sometimes I catch myself wondering whether what Iām about to post is fair or not.. I know this online forum was created for people to call out the bullshit and bring light to the likes of Lydia Millen and many others who donāt use their platform in the best way they have the power to use..@HonBee - you are clearly compassionate. Donāt expect the same from
Lydia. Generally people bash her behaviour. If she was less arrogant and took constructive criticism I think thereād be far less chatter on here.
When you have a platform you have some social responsibility. Magazines used to get backlash for making women feel inadequate. Here we have a more insidious means of doing the same.
We allow these people into our homes and free time. We feel weāve established a relationship with them, theyāre our girlfriends. We trust them, they influence us and we think they are everyday women. Far from it. They are the magazines of today but they donāt come out once a month, their posts are daily! Itās free, direct to our inbox.
With their millions of followers they are selling us a lifestyle, products and setting the tone for what society expects from us. You really have to question, what is more dangerous? A group of people complaining about someoneās lies and bad decorating? Or a group of people selling us a lifestyle of plastic surgery, unbridled expense and fakery. All without consequence.
If you donāt want to hear what people think about you donāt listen into their conversation. Donāt read their diaries or texts. And certainly donāt read an online thread.
Yes I agree that she is a brand and with that comes a stack of other types of criticism, my initial concern was just the more personal comments which are directly related to her as a person, not her business and things she may put out on her home interiors page, or even her personal page in regards to beauty, ads, fashion and other collabs.I hear you, but I also think she is a business. And with businesses you take the person-themselves out of it. She basically deletes all negative reviews, in my opinion, so there must be a place for people to discuss and go over her business practices. It would be like any other business deleting bad reviews in order to appear and sell a product with false claims and customer reviews.
In my eyes her business is her, and what and who she puts online and open to the world. This includes her life with ali, her house, her friends, her cat, her closet, her lies, etc etc. If she puts it online, it's part of her brand and therefore her business.
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When it comes to this whole influencer culture where they are marketing themselves and making money off of it, they have decided they are a business and no longer a person. It would be like a CEO of an actual company coming out and saying they don't like my product and are writing mean things about it. this is abuse and im being bullied....You would never see that. Its unprofessional. When a company lies or doesn't abide by the law, they get called out on it and have to own up and pay the price.
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Influencers cant flip flop back and forth "with them being a person behind the camera", and then marketing themselves as a brand and making money by the bucketload. Just like every other brand and company, they need to take comments as constructive criticism and grow a friggin back bone. Im sorry if that is cynical.
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I have yet to ever see an actual valid threat made against or to her personally where I would say that it is truly over the line and bullying.
**Granted I don't get to see everything that is ever said/written about her**
I have a very hard time finding any sympathy at all with Lydia and her kind. She lies, she manipulates, she has a god awful me me me personality, she INFLUENCES to buy products, she uses, she turns someones death into a pity me too skit, she did that last week when carries cat died, it was "I lost my niece cat or whatever" it wasn't about the cat, its not about whomever died, its about her. This is just a start of a list. These are all negative reviews I have of her brand. And that is how I see it.
Self reflection is a fantastic thing! I think most of us here would have far less issue with Lydia if she could do the same.I think youāre absolutely right, I have more compassion than most, and sometimes I catch myself wondering whether what Iām about to post is fair or not.. I know this online forum was created for people to call out the bullshit and bring light to the likes of Lydia Millen and many others who donāt use their platform in the best way they have the power to use..
Of course as you say, what they are essentially selling and setting expectations for in life is equally if not more dangerous, especially towards younger more impressionable viewers. My concern is just that these (us) group of people who point out and complain about someones lies, lifestyle, plastic surgery etc etc could escalate our comments can easily be taken far out of context and be seen as ābullyingā..
But yes, at least these comments are (mostly) limited to places like this, and the only she would see them is if she went searching for them.. thatās not to say though that there isnāt still people out there, who will go out of their way to ensure these opinions and comments are heard, by going straight to the source and leaving comments on IG posts, twitter, YouTube videos etc..
Yes I agree that she is a brand and with that comes a stack of other types of criticism, my initial concern was just the more personal comments which are directly related to her as a person, not her business and things she may put out on her home interiors page, or even her personal page in regards to beauty, ads, fashion and other collabs.
I mean I donāt think anyone on here has gone TOO far, of course there are certain remarks which (I will hold my hands up and admit even I have made) have been made, that can be quite borderline.. I dunno maybe Iām just thinking too into it in light of what has happened recently and the whole discussion around āonline bullyingā and influencers and stuff..
Hard to say. I think the bullying is a heck of a lot less on her, as the seed of self doubt that her and other influencers lifestyles portray to unknowledgeable audiences. Particularly younger. I think that does a lot more harm to the viewers. Itās a complete fake lifestyle that is gifted and paid for, and they claim it as real. Itās similar to that life is not like a movie. Life is hard and movies typically portray fairytales and perfection to younger viewers. It lowers their self worth because they donāt get the designer freebies, and a house overly stocked with goods. Even the stupid, I didnāt get to have my health drink this am and spend four hours putting on makeup bc the rest of the world has to work to survive. The viewers feel like they are less than, and Lydia definitely acts like the viewers are less than she and she is the superior being. Itās a manipulative mental game that I find is probably very harmful to a majority of audience. Itās creates a desire for more more more, instead of I am enough attitude.I think youāre absolutely right, I have more compassion than most, and sometimes I catch myself wondering whether what Iām about to post is fair or not.. I know this online forum was created for people to call out the bullshit and bring light to the likes of Lydia Millen and many others who donāt use their platform in the best way they have the power to use..
Of course as you say, what they are essentially selling and setting expectations for in life is equally if not more dangerous, especially towards younger more impressionable viewers. My concern is just that these (us) group of people who point out and complain about someones lies, lifestyle, plastic surgery etc etc could escalate our comments can easily be taken far out of context and be seen as ābullyingā..
But yes, at least these comments are (mostly) limited to places like this, and the only she would see them is if she went searching for them.. thatās not to say though that there isnāt still people out there, who will go out of their way to ensure these opinions and comments are heard, by going straight to the source and leaving comments on IG posts, twitter, YouTube videos etc..
Yes I agree that she is a brand and with that comes a stack of other types of criticism, my initial concern was just the more personal comments which are directly related to her as a person, not her business and things she may put out on her home interiors page, or even her personal page in regards to beauty, ads, fashion and other collabs.
I mean I donāt think anyone on here has gone TOO far, of course there are certain remarks which (I will hold my hands up and admit even I have made) have been made, that can be quite borderline.. I dunno maybe Iām just thinking too into it in light of what has happened recently and the whole discussion around āonline bullyingā and influencers and stuff..
She would say that it wasn't her fault, you don't HAVE to read stuff on social media and bring it back to her and how she quit reading about herself! Ugh!She really doesn't get it. Im not going to assume what was going on in Carolines mind and life. Sadly people take their own lives for any number of reasons. I believe she had been having mental health struggles anyway. Unfortunately if you are in the limelight then its kind of expected for people to call you out on your abhorrent behaviour. In CF situation it happened to be the attack on her BF. But Lydiot wants to make it about the media, trolls and bullying again.
What she doesn't understand is there are many ways to make people feel inadequate and worthless. Influencing is definetely one of them.
I do wonder and I hope this never happens (maybe it has and there has been no connection made) but I do wonder what she would say if a parent on social media called her out for being the reason her young impressionable daughter took her own life because she got herself into debt and felt depressed because she was trying to keep up with her lifestyle that she thought was real. Well we all know exactly what she would say. She would probably blame the poor girl. It would be typical Lydia. Ok to blame the media for CF but don't blame me if I was the cause of someone taking their own life. God she makes me sick.
On another note. OMG Ali is dumber than a bag of rocks. Sorry but I could not be with someone that stupid. "cost per value" FFS
Donāt worry, I can relate. I too avoid making comments on her appereance, some things are genetic and you simply canāt control. But I donāt keep my mouth shut about her behaviour, lies etc. And the failed fillers are also her own doing sooo..You know last night I was thinking, and this may be quite an unpopular opinion I know not everybody is going to agree with meā¦
To be honest even Iām not sure really how I feel about the whole situation, but thereās like a part of me that feels as though (although of course you can never compare Lydia with the likes of Caroline Flack), I can understand that she is also a human and that she might have feelings and that she may read certain things about herself online which will hurt herā¦ I know I personally havenāt made a comment about her appearance (correct me if Iām wrongā¦) But I know for sure Iāve definitely made many comments about her personality and lack of awareness around the real world and sometimes I think to myself are the comments Iām making going a little too far, could this be perhaps the 10th, 20th, 100th comment like this shes seen todayā¦ That could have an impact on anyone, I know if I was reading hundreds of comments like that on a daily basis I would for sure go into deep depression, I know Iād like to Think that perhaps people these people making comments about my life have a point and that maybe I should be looking at my own life and really reflecting on what I am doing as a human and whether my actions are right and whether I should be changing thingsā¦ then thereās the other part of me that thinks well she has the power to remove herself from the situation and this lifestyle and unfortunately with social media and influencing and blogging youāre putting yourself into the limelight and you could easily remove yourself from it as wellā¦ Which I know that Lydia would never want to do because of all the perks that come with it for her. Hence why I said at the beginning that Iām not really sure how I even feel about situation..
Sorry for the ramble, I know this place is somewhere we can all discuss and share our opinions and bring to light some of the ridiculous, stupid and downright annoying Things that Lydia does, or others, on other threadsā¦ So I hope that Iām not the only one feeling this way, donāt get me wrong my opinions of Lydia havenāt really changed, maybe I just feel like I need to take a step back from this page in particular and sharing some of those opinions I have online..
Exactly, they are no better themselves, definitely hypocrites.Hard to say. I think the bullying is a heck of a lot less on her, as the seed of self doubt that her and other influencers lifestyles portray to unknowledgeable audiences. Particularly younger. I think that does a lot more harm to the viewers. Itās a complete fake lifestyle that is gifted and paid for, and they claim it as real. Itās similar to that life is not like a movie. Life is hard and movies typically portray fairytales and perfection to younger viewers. It lowers their self worth because they donāt get the designer freebies, and a house overly stocked with goods. Even the stupid, I didnāt get to have my health drink this am and spend four hours putting on makeup bc the rest of the world has to work to survive. The viewers feel like they are less than, and Lydia definitely acts like the viewers are less than she and she is the superior being. Itās a manipulative mental game that I find is probably very harmful to a majority of audience. Itās creates a desire for more more more, instead of I am enough attitude.
& donāt get me started on when they ācall someone out and a bullyā and they have their annoying sheep harass and attack the person who made a comment that probably wasnāt bullying to begin with.
I think these are way way way more damaging than anything lydia tries to get exaggerate and make a pity party for herself.
Very true! As much as I Dislike her, I donāt wish her to be unwell because of our comments. But that would mean sheād be an empath, which she clearly isnātExactly, they are no better themselves, definitely hypocrites.
Regarding Lydia's looks, well I believe we all thought she was really pretty before, but even that version of Lydia was a lie, she lies about everything. Ofcourse that brings on frustration in people who were brought up never to participate in such activities, especially when it's pretty obvious that she makes a LOT of money while doing so.
(Regarding comments on her looks)
Most of the time it's harmless and many people give her credit too (not very often though and honestly that's up to Lydia), but I can understand feelings of guilt and "did I take this too far"?
Yeah if you could all just shut up & click on my affiliate lynx?