I'll have to correct you there! Don't you remember that Louisa finds birth painless? Hers was 'almost orgasmic' apparently!I bet you don’t feel the need to drop in that you had a traumatic birth at any given opportunity though do you. I had a fairly traumatic birth. I was induced, it was 3 bleeping days, I’ve barely met anybody who had a ‘lovely’ birth but people who go on about their labour all the time really annoying me