The pattern seems to be if the defence want to cross examine then the witness takes the stand. Otherwise they have been reading out witness statements as agreed facts. So I’d be surprised if he didn’t cross examine her.
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The jury will also need to
With child a being the weakest link in terms of evidence I have mentioned before that it is likely that she didn’t commit atleast one of these murder purely based on the nature of her job she’s bound to see atleast one pass innocently over the time period. Could be some really compelling stuff to come. Too many questions to make a decision yet, I can see the no smoke without fire argument. I mean how many people are wrongly accused of 7 murders. It’s good to have an open mind though because right now we simply don’t know
I’ve no experience of lactate levels.
What is the normal lactate range?
Could ‘increasing’ mean rising but still within the normal range?
I’m not seeing where any of the medical witnesses or experts have mentioned the possibility of sepsis never mind any preceding infection.
I’m not saying people aren’t thrown under the bus within the NHS/ any work place. I’m not saying that’s unbelievable, I just think it is very hard to believe with such a huge allegation.
They’re not saying she was negligent at her job, they’re not accusing her of being a bad nurse, they’re saying she is a serial killer who deliberately killed babies.
I find it hard to believe the NHS would rather be known as having a serial killer in their ranks than admit they were sub par.
(Disclaimer this is my personal opinion)
I'm hoping this is the case, that they were so busy trying to resuscitate and the rash disappeared so quickly that they didn't get time to document it properly or take a photo.
BUT I expect them to have documented it properly going forward. Otherwise I would have to discount it tbh.
The mottling has been documented for Baby B.
Mark Dowling I apologise for ever criticising your reporting, please come back! You are definitely missed today!!
you rude Do you have to keep dragging it on? Ffs. Just scroll past comments you don’t like.Try discussing it then?
This thread is becoming a load of bollocks.
I see that now!! Sorry, thought I was caught up and I wasn't!!!
On a side note is cctv in these facilities not an option to prevent this from happening again, as a parent of a child who was in NICU I don’t think it would have offended me if there were cameras in place. Could even live stream your child from home, and you wouldn’t have to feel as guilty when having to leave them
Considering you've just done the same thing you could take your own advice. The thread was trundling along quite nicely until the boring old 'scapegoat' and sarcastic crap comments came back. So I'll call it out if I want as you're quite right, it's bollocks and there's just no need for it.
I thought this too! Frustrating
I wonder if the latest statements/witnesses have a lot of information redacted from public press and that's why updates are so sporadic?
An explanation with regard to the poor documentation of the rash could be that, the witnesses may have felt they opened themselves up for criticism and scrutiny if they’d have bought it up, if you’ve not seen something before you might think that you’ve made a mistake and therefore as bad as it sounds keep your head down about it
That's a fair comment. I've never thought of it like that. Going along the lines of, 'it would make me look incompetent' and 'I'll wait until someone else mentions it'. Especially if, the doctors are juniors or don't have much experience with neonatal deaths.
Hes been reporting on Benjamin Mendy today too! How dare he leave us like this.
That's definitely a good point. Plus, I wonder if the working environment was toxic to the point that staff would actively avoid fulfilling their full duties due to backlash from others. Definitely something to consider.
The bloody cheek of him!
The reporting has never been great by anyone on Twitter apart from Judith Moritz. I think they are mainly there to write up an end of day article for BBC and not to live report.
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