Lucy Letby Case #65 Guilty

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Can I just say that there is a very amazing Wiki of the case at the top of the page (pink button) for anyone interested? Might stop a lot of the same questions being asked over and over again.

Just a heads up for anyone who may have missed it. 👍🏻
 
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They will 100% try to go for an appeal, I’d bet money on it.
If they appeal would it mean a retrial? Or time off the sentence? Surely the defence would have to bring some miracle compelling evidence for it to be even considered? Everything is there in black and white. 32000 pages of investigations proving there could have only been one cause. Her.
That said if a retrial did come about could the prosecution jump in for the other babies who didn't get justice today an she potentially end up with more charges?
Sorry for all the questions 😅 brains doing overtime
 
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It’s disgusting that Letby didn’t have to face the parents in court and hear their statements. If convicted, you shouldn’t be able to just not show up because you don’t want to hear what your victims have to say to you. As part of her punishment she should be forced to watch a video of their impact statements every day.
Sorry but she would just get off on that, why do you think she stalked them online and collected trophies? She was wants to relive what she did and the impact it had on them.
 
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May she never feel safe again. Just as she took the safety from them babies. She will forever be looking over her shoulder inside, forever wondering if someone’s tampered with her food or if someone’s waiting round a corner for her. She will have a number on her head wherever she goes. She will never be at peace and I hope she has no sense of routine and her life is made as difficult and uncomfortable as possible. I’m sure a few of the guards would happily turn a blind eye to let someone at her for a few minutes. She will never stroke her cats again, sit in her garden in the sunshine, wander around matalan care free. Lucy you are evil, you did this, and you deserve everything you’re gonna get.
 
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Let's hope these sensationalist monikers stop and any other form of glamourising notoriety and heinous crimes. Yes, boring old beige Lucy will suffice. A reminder that nothing will ever make her special; forever a nobody who has birthday cards from her cats, written by her mother (What. The. duck.).
This is such a bizarre reach. We can all agree that she’s an absolute evil nutjob, but I know so many people who send/receive cards from their dogs/cats. There’s literal categories on online card retailers dedicated to it lol.
 
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FYI

There is an extensive WIKI at the top of the page that is extremely easy to navigate and most questions can be answered there.

It also has lots and lots of details about the whole case. Defence, prosecution and day to day reporting from media. All the messages, maps, pictures of the wards etc.

@Tofino is responsible for this absolute belter of a collection and everyone uses it (even people on FB and Reddit)
 
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If they appeal would it mean a retrial? Or time off the sentence? Surely the defence would have to bring some miracle compelling evidence for it to be even considered? Everything is there in black and white. 32000 pages of investigations proving there could have only been one cause. Her.
That said if a retrial did come about could the prosecution jump in for the other babies who didn't get justice today an she potentially end up with more charges?
Sorry for all the questions 😅 brains doing overtime
It goes to a higher court and they hear about the point of appeal (you can’t appeal everything in the trial you can only appeal on either a mistake of fact or application of the law). If the court upholds the appeal (agrees with the appeal-ers) then I think they can either quash the whole sentence or reduce it (I’m not 100% sure on this bit). You can only appeal a certain number of times.
 
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Ridiculous and disrespectful for the court to change the letters relating to which babies after all these months just cos it makes it slighly easier for the drip that wrote them up. A case like this as well - really bleeping poor.
 
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I’ve just read it too, I cannot believe the mistake of leaving a name.
I also think it’s strange that when the anonymity was granted they didn’t have all of the previous reports in which the babies (including the one that where a NG verdict was recorded pre-trial) removed. Defeats the purpose a bit!
 
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Can I just say that there is a very amazing Wiki of the case at the top of the page (pink button) for anyone interested? Might stop a lot of the same questions being asked over and over again.

Just a heads up for anyone who may have missed it. 👍🏻
Ha, I've just posted the same!
 
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11:47am

The pre-recorded interview is now played from the father of Child O and Child P.
He recalls being "shocked" at the news of triplets.
He says the parents were "both overwhelmed", but the pregnancy progressed well.
The birth was traumatic, but the team were happy with the triplets' health, as they were admitted to the neonatal unit.
The parents were "so excited" to see the boys doing well when they went to see them.
On June 23, "things started to go downill", when he was informed Child O had had a collapse. He said he was thinking the worst, and informed the mother.
He said the moments of seeing Child O die were horrific and something he would never forget. "It felt like a stab in the heart".
"No-one at the hospital had any explanation"
After Child O died, the parents were "extremely concerned". "It was hard to disguise our emotions".
"No-one really knew what to say, it was an awkward silence."
The following morning, the parents were informed Child P was poorly. They were told 'it's happening again'. They "didn't know what was happening", and could see Child P looked worse than before.
"I thought we were going down the same roads we did with [Child O]."
Child P sadly passed away later that afternoon.
"We were pleading with the doctor [at the transport team] to take [the surviving triplet] away with them".
He said it was a terrible situation to be in.
He said they had received no guidance from the Countess in terms of support following the deaths of Child O and Child P.
The father details further problems in the parents' lives took their toll on their mental health.
He said he felt guilty for showing happiness in the surviving triplet's life, that he could not take any joy from it.
He said in the aftermath, he "hit rock bottom". As his life was "slowly improving", news came through of Letby's arrest. He was gobsmacked but relieved there appeared to be some sort of explanation. He said he had believed there was "some form of clinical negligence", but never believed the boys had been "murdered on purpose".
He says he struggles to socialise with friends or family, and finds it difficult to answer the question on how many children he has.
He adds coming to terms with the police investigation has been difficult.
He said he had initially been called as a witness, and seeing Letby for the first time was "extremely difficult".
He said the actions of Letby's text messages and Facebook searches were "in poor taste", and found it difficult to see the mother being "so upset".
"Lucy Letby has destroyed our lives."
He adds the pressure of the trial has been difficult to describe.

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This was so so heartbreaking 💔
 
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Imagine being the wife of that doctor. Imagine knowing that your husband shagged a woman way more evil than Myra Hindley and Rose West. How would you ever be able to have him in your bed ever again?

There's a good chance that the wife had sod all idea of what really went on until it was revealed at trial. Hope she's ringing the divorce lawyer as we speak.
 
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The higher ups refusing to listen the consultants didn’t just delay the police investigation, it also created a divide between the consultants and other hospital staff. Which was the basis for LL to start her whole “gang of four” “they don’t like me” rit. Which was her whole defence. So much damage has been done that just didn’t need to happen
 
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