Lucy Letby Case #41

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10:42am

He says the information presented has been a "spaghetti soup" of data and evidence, some of which "carries little weight at all".

He says the jury must look at the detail presented.

He says it is the jury's views that matter on the evidence.
The information is more like jigsaw pieces which when put together present a clear picture.
 
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10:34am

He cites examples by the prosecution case - her presence when something happens, or not being present, or just leaving the unit, or just turning up for her work.

Her making a note, or not making a note - 'guilty'.

He says if she signs for medical records, or signs for others - 'guilty'.

A baby in her care doesn't show signs of deteriorations - guilty.

A baby does show signs of deteriorations - guilty.

He says it is "twisting and turning".

She cries when giving evidence - guilty.

She doesn't cry when giving evidence, or doesn't cry at the right times - guilty.
Thanks for clarifying that Ben....what the hell?🤣🤣
 
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10:46am

He says that Letby being drawn into agreeing with things in cross-examination that she could not have known cannot be conclusive.

He cites Letby being asked about staffing pressures, or the unit taking on too many babies.

He says the jury can draw "common sense conclusions" over all the evidence presented.

He says Letby is "in no position to settle the issues" [on the unit].

He adds the issues in the trial being discussed are "harrowing and heartbreaking", and cannot be more serious, and 'nothing he says is to diminish the loss' suffered by parents.

He says the defence feel upset and "overwhelming sympathy" for them.
 
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He’s just trying to word salad/bore the jury into submission. 5 days, not sure I can face that so imagine how (if any of them have already got their minds set!) the jury feel!
 
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Going back to the prosecution having a "theory". Well, it's not the prosecution that has a theory, is it? It's the police and it's not a theory, is it? The police spent a long time investigating and came to the conclusion that she has done it, therefore creating the need for this trial. BNE didn't wake up one morning and think... "I think Lucy Letby killed and attempted to kill those babies so let me in that courtroom and I'll try to prove it, based on my own theory". Sorry, I know it's just wording, but come onnnnnnnnn Ben!
 
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"He says that Letby being drawn into agreeing with things in cross-examination that she could not have known cannot be conclusive. He cites Letby being asked about staffing pressures, or the unit taking on too many babies."

I mean if she's qualified to say it was a conspiracy gang of 4, and raw sewage flowing through the taps, and to comment on the competence of Sophie Ellis and the doctors/nurses dealing with stomas and chest drains - she's qualified to comment on staffing pressures. The judge wouldn't have allowed BNE to ask LL such questions if he thought she couldn't answer them to the best of her knowledge! And BM know this.
 
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He’s just trying to word salad/bore the jury into submission. 5 days, not sure I can face that so imagine how (if any of them have already got their minds set!) the jury feel!
It's like he's trying to meet the word count on an overdue essay.
 
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10:51am

He says the emotional reaction to such serious, upsetting and sensitive charges "is to convict".

He says the jury have to be "very careful" on the conclusions reached.

He says the prosecution "characterise" Letby, which "they are entitled to do", and he says the jury "must be alert to that".

He says the language of 'attack', 'gaslighting', 'sabotage', 'you're enjoying yourself', 'your favourite way of killing', playing god', 'calculating', 'manipulative' was sometimes "on the thinnest of evidence...or no evidence at all".

Mr Myers says Letby was in 2015: "She's a 25-year-old band 5 nurse, an excellent one - that's what she was, looking after dozens, if not hundreds of babies...day after day."

He says "you saw the real person" in her evidence and cross-examination, that she could "remember pieces of evidence" in the years she has been waiting for her trial: "There's little else to do in prison, isn't there?"


She was also "scared, anxious and struggling to hold it all together".
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He says "you saw the real person" in her evidence and cross-examination, that she could "remember pieces of evidence" in the years she has been waiting for her trial: "There's little else to do in prison, isn't there?"


Errrrrrrr the constant use of "I can't recall" says differently.
 
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10:54am

Mr Myers cites "plausible deniability" as "if it was a done deal", "setting up cover".

He says the prosecution set up questions and answered them as "Lucy Letby", without referring to evidence.

He says the way Letby was dealt with in cross-examination was "bad".
 
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"Mr Myers says Letby was in 2015: "She's a 25-year-old band 5 nurse, an excellent one - that's what she was, looking after dozens, if not hundreds of babies...day after day"

Well, she wasn't excellent because guilty of murder or not, she still had a much higher rate of baby deaths/collapses than any of the other ICU nurses. Her performance was terrible AND she was illegally taking back confidential handover notes/patient files!

"She was also "scared, anxious and struggling to hold it all together"."

Well, she wasn't was she? Given she had the presence of mind to shoot post its to her lawyers from the dock, change her statement from police interview to the stand, and held her own against BNE very well.
 
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10:51am

He says the emotional reaction to such serious, upsetting and sensitive charges "is to convict".

He says the jury have to be "very careful" on the conclusions reached.

He says the prosecution "characterise" Letby, which "they are entitled to do", and he says the jury "must be alert to that".

He says the language of 'attack', 'gaslighting', 'sabotage', 'you're enjoying yourself', 'your favourite way of killing', playing god', 'calculating', 'manipulative' was sometimes "on the thinnest of evidence...or no evidence at all".

Mr Myers says Letby was in 2015: "She's a 25-year-old band 5 nurse, an excellent one - that's what she was, looking after dozens, if not hundreds of babies...day after day."

He says "you saw the real person" in her evidence and cross-examination, that she could "remember pieces of evidence" in the years she has been waiting for her trial: "There's little else to do in prison, isn't there?"


She was also "scared, anxious and struggling to hold it all together".
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"An excellent nurse"??? Sorry, what?😡😡
Even if she was, God forbid, please no,found innocent,she's at the very least a tit nurse and all round horrible person ....😡😡
 
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Yeah, murdering psychopath aside…she is incompetent and unprofessional. Sorry, not buying it Ben.
 
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