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What would catching her I act look like though. She is literally just pushing a syringe the wrong way for most of them. With E his mum saw her bent over him with blood on his face and he later had a massive bleed, and Baby K was attacked by her tube being dislodged. Lucy was watching her de satting and did absolutely nothing, how can a 25wk baby who can't breathe for herself self correct.
11:21am
Mr Myers says it was accepted by the prosecution there was sub-optimal care in the cases of Child D and Child H, but in the latter they did not give much more detail.
He says for Child A, there was a 'four-hour' "delay in fluids", and the "line was placed too close to his heart" and was 'not in the optimal place'.
"There is plenty of sub-optimal care knocking about in this unit".
He says some of the sub-optimal care is 'more contentious than others'.
He says there is a "list" for Child H, including the second chest drain for Child H.
'Poor management of stomas' for Child J, and not moving Child K to a tertiary centre, a failure to have factor 8 ready for Child N, 'mistakes in ventilation' and 'getting the doses of adrenaline wrong' for Child P.
Failure to react to 'dark bile aspirates' for Child C for 24 hours.
He says Child Q was moved to a tertiary centre after three bilous aspirates.
He says that is on top of 'babies not being in the right place'.
He says babies like Child G and Child I were "prone to serious problems" and "not always" looked after sufficiently qualified staff.
He says 'with one exception', senior consultants refused to accept anything was wrong in the 12 months, except for one doctor who failed to attend an emergency as quick as she should have been in the case of Child E.
Mr Myers says it was accepted by the prosecution there was sub-optimal care in the cases of Child D and Child H, but in the latter they did not give much more detail.
He says for Child A, there was a 'four-hour' "delay in fluids", and the "line was placed too close to his heart" and was 'not in the optimal place'.
"There is plenty of sub-optimal care knocking about in this unit".
He says some of the sub-optimal care is 'more contentious than others'.
He says there is a "list" for Child H, including the second chest drain for Child H.
'Poor management of stomas' for Child J, and not moving Child K to a tertiary centre, a failure to have factor 8 ready for Child N, 'mistakes in ventilation' and 'getting the doses of adrenaline wrong' for Child P.
Failure to react to 'dark bile aspirates' for Child C for 24 hours.
He says Child Q was moved to a tertiary centre after three bilous aspirates.
He says that is on top of 'babies not being in the right place'.
He says babies like Child G and Child I were "prone to serious problems" and "not always" looked after sufficiently qualified staff.
He says 'with one exception', senior consultants refused to accept anything was wrong in the 12 months, except for one doctor who failed to attend an emergency as quick as she should have been in the case of Child E.
isn’t this what he’s just spent the last half an hour saying though??? His defence is full of contradictions at the minute
BM is surely just going through the motions as I bet even he thinks she's guilty as duck but cant express his true feelings just yetAnyways, what's everyone having for their tea?
. Dinner tonight is cheese and bacon quiche with French fries and veg for me no veg for mr Caledonian or wee Caledonian.
Green haired Ceri and fan Sniffer Scientist don’t deserve this disrespect from BM. Ones been mocking babies deaths and the others been committing scientific fraud on her behalf. What has BM done? Got a bleeping plumber!
We are less than an hour in and I'm already asking why did he not have any witnesses that could add weight(STAND UP FOR HER )to some of the rit he's spoken, so God help me when he goes through each baby!
Also, I know he's doing his job, but just like letby, calling baby E mum a liar is a low blow
Also, I know he's doing his job, but just like letby, calling baby E mum a liar is a low blow
11:25am
Mr Myers says evidence presented on October 25 by Dr Dewi Evans:
"One tends not to spread news about the mistakes we make", in reference to doctors.
He says that is a piece of evidence 'to keep in mind'.
He says that was "one of the many things" that came out of his "relatively lengthy" evidence.
He says: "In a way, haven't we seen that in this trial?"
He says that in relation to doctors being resistant to criticism.
He adds no-one, including Letby, is immune to criticism.
He says doctors would come with 'prepared speeches'.
He says "don't think the senior doctors came here without motives of their own".
He adds: "however you look at it, there was a terrible failing of care" at the unit.
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11:26am
He says senior doctors have 'in various ways' suspected Letby was doing something 'for months and months'.
He says those doctors 'said/did nothing to raise the alarm...when nothing prevented them from doing so.'
He says if they were right, that failure to do anything right was "staggering".
He says whichever way, it was a "terrible failing in care".
Mr Myers says evidence presented on October 25 by Dr Dewi Evans:
"One tends not to spread news about the mistakes we make", in reference to doctors.
He says that is a piece of evidence 'to keep in mind'.
He says that was "one of the many things" that came out of his "relatively lengthy" evidence.
He says: "In a way, haven't we seen that in this trial?"
He says that in relation to doctors being resistant to criticism.
He adds no-one, including Letby, is immune to criticism.
He says doctors would come with 'prepared speeches'.
He says "don't think the senior doctors came here without motives of their own".
He adds: "however you look at it, there was a terrible failing of care" at the unit.
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11:26am
He says senior doctors have 'in various ways' suspected Letby was doing something 'for months and months'.
He says those doctors 'said/did nothing to raise the alarm...when nothing prevented them from doing so.'
He says if they were right, that failure to do anything right was "staggering".
He says whichever way, it was a "terrible failing in care".
I think the criticism for baby K being at coch NNU is unfair, she was moved as soon as it was safe to do so. Very premature babies are often cared for at level 2 units in the short term. Babies can be born prematurely suddenly or at home and the priority is stabilising them.
Yeah, this is exactly why I wasn't looking forward to it.We are less than an hour in and I'm already asking why did he not have any witnesses that could add weight(STAND UP FOR HER )to some of the rit he's spoken, so God help me when he goes through each baby!
Also, I know he's doing his job, but just like letby, calling baby E mum a liar is a low blow
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11:30am
Mr Myers: "You will understand the stakes [in this trial] are very high.
"We don't say 'doctors bad'.
We say for those senior consultants who presided at that unit...Lucy Letby getting the blame matters."
He says the prosecution used the expression, the 'gang of four' consultants of Dr Jayaram, Dr Stephen Brearey, Dr John Gibbs and a female doctor [who cannot be named].
He says the doctors 'have an interest in what happens here' and each of them 'had gone out of their way to damage Lucy Letby' in their evidence.
He cites an example on pneumothroaxes presented by Dr Gibbs which he says was "unneutral".
He says "one way or another" the unit "failed".
He says this case is a "prime opportunity" to "hide" bad/poor outcomes.
If Perv Gill or Green Dole Goblin start today they’re getting the length of my tongue
11:32am
He says the unit was "noticeably busier" than it had been in previous years, and there was "no change in the staffing levels".
He says doctors are "running to and from the neonatal unit" in emergencies. He cites an example in the final collapse of Child I.
He says the unit was "noticeably busier" than it had been in previous years, and there was "no change in the staffing levels".
He says doctors are "running to and from the neonatal unit" in emergencies. He cites an example in the final collapse of Child I.
Yeah Ben, staff shortages are very common. You hit the ground running and get on with it. It's called team work which I think the little smack rat won't have liked
11:35am
He cites Dr Sally Ogden's evidence that June 2015 was a "particularly busy" time at the unit, and that was a combination of factors, including the complexity of the babies' needs, the number of staff, and total unit admissions.
He says the increased busyness increases the likelihood of mistakes and the chances of missing developing problems in babies.
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11:38am
He says the Countess was designed to look after babies of 27 weeks + (gestational age), and there were babies in this case who would be "far better" cared for at a tertiary centre, and evidence had been heard that for Child K's case, the tertiary centre care could have made a difference.
He says between June 2015-June 2016, the unit was "under a much greater burden".
He says during this time, whatever the hospital had to "deal with changed".
He says after the Countess neonatal unit became a 'level one unit' after June 2016, two more consultants were added. He says that is indicative of staffing pressures prior.
He cites Dr Sally Ogden's evidence that June 2015 was a "particularly busy" time at the unit, and that was a combination of factors, including the complexity of the babies' needs, the number of staff, and total unit admissions.
He says the increased busyness increases the likelihood of mistakes and the chances of missing developing problems in babies.
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11:38am
He says the Countess was designed to look after babies of 27 weeks + (gestational age), and there were babies in this case who would be "far better" cared for at a tertiary centre, and evidence had been heard that for Child K's case, the tertiary centre care could have made a difference.
He says between June 2015-June 2016, the unit was "under a much greater burden".
He says during this time, whatever the hospital had to "deal with changed".
He says after the Countess neonatal unit became a 'level one unit' after June 2016, two more consultants were added. He says that is indicative of staffing pressures prior.
So sub-optimal care this, understaffing that... but the unreasonably high death rate just randomly falls when LL is redeployed? Oh come on...
And also, if your unit is full to bursting / horribly understaffed, that's when you start shipping babies out to other units. Sorry, I just can't with this.
And also, if your unit is full to bursting / horribly understaffed, that's when you start shipping babies out to other units. Sorry, I just can't with this.
It’s all he can do. There is literally no plausible defence so it’s all he can do is attack attack attack. Attack the staff, the standard of care at the hospital, and try to discredit the other witnesses including the parents.
It’s not defencing for me either. So all these mistakes yet not one of them was made by LL. do me a favour Ben
"He says the Countess was designed to look after babies of 27 weeks + (gestational age), and there were babies in this case who would be "far better" cared for at a tertiary centre, and evidence had been heard that for Child K's case, the tertiary centre care could have made a difference."
The difference being they wouldn't have been harmed/murdered at a tertiary centre
The difference being they wouldn't have been harmed/murdered at a tertiary centre
The unit it was so busy yet everything happened on her exact shift 
and she found time to text relentlessly. Ok 
and she found time to text relentlessly. Ok Resulting in babies dying and being left disabled for life, by air being forced into them, by being given ridiculous amounts of unprescribed insulin, or having horrific injuries to their liver inflicted upon them.....yeah sure that's caused by pressures on the unit!
Why the hell has he not been able to offer any medical alternatives as to the causes of these " events"? All he had was the bloody plumber fffs
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