Lucy Letby Case #41

[yellowmellow]

He says Letby has been in prison, and in the dock, surrounded by 'commendable' prison dock officers, "standard measures". He says to 'look how this looks' for her in comparison to the witnesses who have come in. He says this is presented as an "inherent disadvantage".

Is he trying to say witnesses should have been flanked by police officers to make it fair for her? They aren't the ones on trial for murder!

 

[terfette]

Mr Bojangles is doing really well.
He had some soaked mealworms for the first time today and loved them. He doesn’t want to miss out when we’re having dinner and tries to cadge stuff even though he’s not going to like it. He’s taken to sleeping on the dish drainer (seems uncomfy) which is handy for cleaning (bleaching I may add).
I’m leaving the door open so he can go in and out as he pleases, he’s not gone far. A lot of wing flapping and has managed about a 3 - 4 foot flight. It was raining quite heavily today and he was like ‘what’s going on?’.
I didn’t realise crows have an opinion on everything, they do. Apart from the cawing, it’s hmmm, ehh, what?, is that so, or the equivalent in bird noises.

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Have you ever had a crow before? One of my old school friends has helped two or three over the years and they still come back and visit him years later!

 

[Rosie878]

I'm sorry but asking her what 'go commando' meant was hardly humiliating.

 

[gigilouxx]

Does anyone else actually get the vibe that she isn’t munchausen?

I get narcissism, not munchausens

 

[elderflowerrose]

Sorry - agree with him there being the bit about her behaviour in general. Crying or not crying does not make a murderer. Insulin though is harder to argue.

 

[Deeznutslol]

I've started writing this many times and deleted it. I'm not going to lie you've really got my back up but I know that's because I have an emotional connection to the subject matter and you very clearly have not.

I could've aborted my baby the day before he was born in this country. Legally.

If he was born in the Netherlands I could have murdered him the day after he was born. Legally.

The strict guidance you speak of, the criteria for murder (if a child is already born its not fucking euthanasia or palliative, it's murder) would've been met by my son and MANY of his friends within our community.

When he was born Louie had congenital heart defects, kidney problems and various other issues. He would have met the 'very strict criteria' but instead of murdering him I decided to just love him.

Well said.
I think it’s a fucking appalling law and it’s totally discriminatory against Down Syndrome people. They should get rid of it.

 

[gimmethattea]

I've out of sync with following live, had a lovely inset day with all 3 babies and I've just had the quick glance now and I don't think I can read this bullshit today.

Imagine your only defence is slagging everyone else off.

The bit that got me most in my brief read is the theory of air embolus was taken from animals, not neonatal babies.

Dr BM, how can you get any research, evidence, tests, etc...of air embolus in Neonatal babies? Naturally, it would be morally wrong and LEGALLY impossible to gather that research Unless your name is Lucy Letby of course.

 

[LilyRose1234]

I'm sure you've discussed this before, but I'm curious from any of m'learned friends on here about defence barristers and the cab rank rule - as I understand it, you have to take the case that's before you. I think this is an essential part of our justice system and even monsters deserve a fair trial. But I'm curious as to how it works if you're not convinced by their innocence, but if they've pled NG you still have to build a case for their defence? It must be very hard psychologically, especially if you're a 'winner' kind of personality (which, in my experience, a lot of lawyers are).

I think it’s easy to get caught up in making assumptions about what the barristers are thinking, and of course there will be cases that you have strong personal feelings about (or that was certainly my case, albeit I’ve never worked in defence), but in reality it’s a job. I’m not a barrister, but a solicitor with criminal law experience and whilst some I got (probably too) emotionally invested in, on the whole I tried not to get too caught up in the emotions of it all, just focused on the evidence, making sure the elements of the offence were made out, dealing with procedural formalities, and in especially horrific cases just compartmentalising it all. Sometimes IMO too much emotion can cloud your judgement, although in some cases being incredibly passionate about it is helpful, but I haven’t found that in every case. If you got worked up emotionally on very case it would probably get completely overwhelming, like I’ve said, compartmentalising is the only way I dealt with some of it although I’m sure there are lawyers with far healthier coping mechanisms! I don’t work in criminal law anymore but the same can be said for the law I do now, some clients yo connect with and you find yourself wanting them to do well and being more invested, whereas others are just a job, if that makes sense?! I’m sure it’s the same in most jobs to be fair!

 

[Deeznutslol]

he needs kneecapping

I also really think Dr Gibbs should sue him for defamation as well. He’s basically accusing him of either murder or negligence which lead to deaths here…

 

[docmum]

Out of interest - If you were the parents, would you go to the press after this?

I would. I would be shouting my baby's name from the rooftops and showing his or her face to everyone to show people who it was this monster was harming. Maybe some of the absolute c**ts on Facebook and Twitter would shut the fuck up a bit when faced with an actual face and a name of who she wiped off the earth/attempted to wipe off the earth. Tiny human beings. People's sons and daughters.

I think in the cases of those with babies who survived her attempts alongside their loss I’d want to do whatever was best for the surviving baby.
But 7 year olds don’t miss a beat, they’ll know their parents and families are particularly traumatised/attending court, so what is in their best interests - they can’t be protected from the facts in entirety? I genuinely have no idea and can’t begin to understand how these people can put one foot in front of the other at the moment.

 

[amsmall]

Yeah Ben, staff shortages are very common. You hit the ground running and get on with it. It's called team work which I think the little smack rat won't have liked

 

[F1Grid]

He sounds like a Facebook fanny sniffer.

“There’s no evidence reeeeee!” OK so there’s no synthetic in the blood of two babies after LL’s signed for the bags of fluid running through? There’s no severe liver injury on LL’s watch? There’s no air found in pathology specimens?

I don’t think I’ll be following the rest of today. If I wanted to see this shite I’d go on the fraudulent scientists reddit sub.

 

[Dolly Daydreaming]

Bit of light-hearted fun, when I first started following the trial in October, I thought I read that Mike Myers was defending LL so every time I see "Myers" I think of all these characters who could be defending her

 

[MmmB777]

12:22pm

Mr Myers says there is missing post-mortem examination evidence for Child E, which allowed the prosecution to present evidence of 'bleeding from the throat'.

He says that allowed the prosecution to provide linked evidence. He says there is no evidence to show it, post-mortem.

She fucking talks about the bleeding ffs.

 

[slidders]

He’s just trying to word salad/bore the jury into submission. 5 days, not sure I can face that so imagine how (if any of them have already got their minds set!) the jury feel!

 

[Daisydunn15]

Last roll of the dice when it comes to her defence
Lied about going commando cause she was asked infront of her parents.

Wait till the documentary comes out and they find out about the dildo

 

[Lucyxxxx]

So glad some of the people on that submersible thread haven't made their way over here because



Grateful to have such a lovely bunch over here, for sure

I'm on the titanic thread lol.

Also been reading the posts about precious DS babies/children/people and I know it's not the same but 2 of mine as I've said before are SEN. My autistic boy will likely always need some level of care he's very impaired by his condition. Couldn't imagine his life being viewed as less than. One of the things I love about him is how oblivious to the world he is and all that matters to him is his cleaning products and how happy they make him. It's a different kind of innocence. All children are special but when they have extra needs even the usual milestones are that bit more precious.

 

[Futtrit]

BM just salty because he doesn't have a Tattle fan club

 

[EffingDust]

Won't be following much today...got an appointment (camera crew going up my chuff )so have waxed, femfreshed and put on a very beautiful vajazzle...hope my sonographer appreciates the effort!

When does this air on Netflix?

 

[MmmB777]

I wonder if it’s worth directly reporting Dick the Prick to Chester police? Operation Hummingbird even? The parents and families should be protected from this cunt.