Lucy Letby Case #4

[avabella]

Back on night shifts for child P? They took her off night shifts cause of concerns. What happened to aliviate those concerns?

Staff shortages? She was the designated nurse for a child who had died 'in unusual circumstances', and then went on to be his designated nurse for his brother. Beggars belief.

 

[OH.FFS]

10:57am

Child P desaturated again at 11.30am. He was given adrenaline.
His spontaneous circulation improved but he continued to deteriorate through the day.
A punctured lung was identified from an x-ray taken at 11.57am, treatment started at 12.40pm.
The transport team arrived at 3pm. Just before they arrived, Child P's blood gases were taken and were satisfactory.
A doctor was hopeful of Chils P's prospects.
The court hears Letby said to her something like:"he’s not leaving here alive is he?"

WTF planet is she on?

ADDED

10:59am

Child P's final collapse came at 3.14pm and, despite resuscitative efforts, he died at 4pm.

 

[Emmelina Ball]

When we look at this it really does question the prosecutions theory IMO

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Meanwhile on FB.

 

[catlady29]

HOLY SH!T

 

[OH.FFS]

I agree tbh. I don’t think it’s a confession it’s like word vomit when you don’t have anyone to talk to but need to talk to someone it’s like all her feelings and fears thrown out onto a post it! I feel this is unpopular but I don’t think she’s guilty with what we have seen so far (may change my mind back n forth as the case goes on).


What shouldn’t be on here?

I would argue word vomit or not. It’s a sign of someone very disturbed. And if someone had accused me, my word vomit would be about my innocence and ramblings of what / who it could be. The very fact that her words are so disturbing tell me she shouldn’t be caring for children, babies, or vulnerable.

 

[freaknasty]

Nine minutes in and I already can’t believe what I’ve read!

 

[OH.FFS]

Defence is sobering me up back to not knowing, for now.
So I set off: innocent
Half way through prosecution I changed to: probably guilty
Now, after a couple of hours of hearing her opening defence: unsure and reserving/suspending judgement

not jumping to any conclusions now.

 

[SamPam]

"The prosecution claims she then made "factually false" entries in Child P's medical records to cover herself - with phone records showing she was texting at the time she claimed to have been making observations.

After Child P died, she spent time with his parents and at one point took a photograph of both together in a cot."

WTF is that about

 

[Truthslayer]

Just a thought for the parents and families of the babies. Whether LL is innocent or guilty, my heart truly goes out to them, because to hear these things being said and having to relive their poor little babies dying must be absolutely devastating.

 

[Nurseali]

If she hadn't wrote the on purpose part I would have thought it was the guilt health professionals often feel when someone dies. You reflect what you could have done differently.
On purpose though throws that one out.

 

[riddleme89]

The defence is good . I mean the defence is right if dr had suspicions and concerns then why did he do nothing . It’s his job to protect his patients and if he knew something wasn’t right then why did he do nothing about it . I’m not saying Lucy is innocent but it’s right what the defence say ,

And each death they all put down as premature . When they are now all saying it was air and insulin well why was that never put on the death certificates. The hospital allowed her to carry this on and failed the patients

 

[MmmB777]

But that's the thing unless your in a field that handles vulnerable potentially very sick children you wouldn't have a need to write that.

As a parent my son has fallen down and I've instinctively said it's my fault, I should of done this, I could of done that and maybe that wouldn't of happened. I didn't cause the fall, but I still felt guilty I wasn't able to stop it happening. Flip the context to something less devastating and it's explainable and more relatable for most people.

Again I don't know if she's innocent or guilty, I just don't see the point in landing on a she's definitely done it because of a potential mental breakdown.

It's not dismissing your opinion at all you could be a 100% right, just explaining my thought pattern

She wrote I did it I killed them on purpose
If you said “I pushed my child down the stairs on purpose” that would be the same thing.
We’ve all felt guilty about accidents like that. If you say “I did it on purpose” that’s really different.

 

[ChampagneBox]

I’m obviously not a murderer but I struggle with anxiety and OCD intrusive thoughts and quite frequently I just write ramblings down on paper, some of which if someone else looked at it they’d probably raise their eyebrows…humans are complex, maybe the ‘I’ll never get married or have a family’ belief was just that, a belief?

 

[LittleMy]

Her parents have no reason not to believe her, if it is completely against everything they know or think about her then of course they’ll be in her corner. She hasn’t been found guilty of anything yet.

 

[Stiltoncheese]

I read something yesterday saying she was in private school not sure if it is true but that would probably mean they had some money to send her

Imposter syndrome is a funny thing though. When I qualified as a social worker and finally had my own unsupervised case load of adults, I felt panicky and like an imposter for the first few months, and still now years later I have odd moments of panic in a new situation not experienced before where I am expected to be the font of knowledge for someone. I think you feel quite protected as a student and so it is always daunting when you are let loose on your own.

Definitely no pressure from my parents as I was a mature student who was already married with children. I think you just spend 3 years in a bubble as a health or social work student and then you just get chucked in to work woth a case load and told to get on with it

 

[polkamoon]

Oh my god the end of their opening statement - post it notes found in her house saying ‘I’m evil I did this’ ‘I killed them on purpose’

This is so upsetting

 

[MmmB777]

Well thay was... wow.

Were they hers, though? Did she take them from someone else? Is it her writing? No mention of that yet as it'll be mentioned later but which of the above will the defence excuse this with?

Good god The image of her just walking along and seeing some post it notes with I’M EVIL I DID THIS written on them while out on a little walk to the shops and thinking. “Hmm wonder what this is about. I’ll take that. Keep it with all those handover notes I’ve got” and whistling off innocently back home

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

What a bitch. Instead of trying to be a good person and do good instead of wallowing she decides to ruin people's lives and make other people unhappy. She's ripped families apart, and those poor babies....they didn't even get a chance to see the outside world let alone get married and have babies!!! She's beyond evil if this is true!

orrr, maybe she really didnt want to get married or have kids and was just writing it down as a statement. We cant get inference from a sentence like that because there is no 'because' to explain at the end.

 

[FastAndTheCurious7]

The only thing that’s really messing with my head, is what if she is actually guilty but that Ben is really good at casting doubt and she gets away with it