i’m glad she has a very good lawyer, no come back or ifs / buts if she is found guilty.
i’m glad she has a very good lawyer, no come back or ifs / buts if she is found guilty.I know it’s supposed to be a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty and all that but god I wish she had a shit lawyer.
Yeah very sickIt’s showing also that she thought she had developed ways to divert attention from herself by falsifying things and planting seeds.
i know it means nothing but if guilty they will get a large pay out, maybe help towards rebuilding their lives, take pressure off to properly come to terms with what has happened.If I was a parent of one of those children I would want that woman dead. They will blame her regardless of what the outcome of this trial is and nobody can blame them. I just feel if I was them and having her actually found guilty it would make me feel like 1% better. Closure for them I guess? Answers? I don’t know. I’m not talking in a rational way just thinking how they may be feeling but if her being found guilty makes the parents of those children feel slightly better then I hope she’s guilty.
leader is fine on my iphone, not showing anything for sky for meI need to start reading on sky the leader is leaving loads out I’m not seeing half of what’s being mentioned here
I had this discussion the other day. However it does state that many of these mothers were providing expressed breast milk.I don’t know if it will come up in the trial but I’d really like to know the family circumstances of these babies.
I know there was some talk of them being from traveller families. I find that hard to believe due to the number of children over a short period but NICU units have a lot of babies where the mother was addicted to drugs or alcohol.
They haven’t mentioned any of these babies being premature due to drugs or alcohol but that may be something that comes up in evidence rather than the opening statement.
if several of these babies were born in those circumstances is the motive some sort of twisted way of “saving” them from that life or that the mother “doesn’t deserve them”
Yeah there's no way I'd have come to terms with the loss of my child if they'd died this wayi know it means nothing but if guilty they will get a large pay out, maybe help towards rebuilding their lives, take pressure off to properly come to terms with what has happened.
True! Didn’t think of it that wayi’m glad she has a very good lawyer, no come back or ifs / buts if she is found guilty.
3 babies in the NICU when we were there were born to drug addicted mothers and they were all given formula milk instead of breastI had this discussion the other day. However it does state that many of these mothers were providing expressed breast milk.
This will come off judgemental but I mean no malice, just rationalising - but I wouldn’t imagine that a person who was addicted to drugs or alcohol and the cause of this was their babies prematurity would be expressing the milk, nor would I imagine the milk to be accepted in terms of contamination?
That’s a good point. We’ve only heard of one where donor milk was used and that could have been for any reason if the mother’s milk hadn’t come in. Hopefully we’ll get more answersI had this discussion the other day. However it does state that many of these mothers were providing expressed breast milk.
This will come off judgemental but I mean no malice, just rationalising - but I wouldn’t imagine that a person who was addicted to drugs or alcohol and the cause of this was their babies prematurity would be expressing the milk, nor would I imagine the milk to be accepted in terms of contamination?
In most of those cases they specified it was either her day off or she was off duty, or Christmas day. But they haven't given more details for all of them.I had a thought about the Facebook searches as well, that she may have been at work when she was searching, and there might have been a discussion about the families between the staff on duty. Nurses work Christmas Day.
Unless I’m mistaken they didn’t even mention about the photos?leader is fine on my iphone, not showing anything for sky for me
I had a bad cesarean and had to have strong pain relief with my eldest and they wouldn't accept my breast milk because if tramadol so definitely would accept BM from someone taking recreational drugsI had this discussion the other day. However it does state that many of these mothers were providing expressed breast milk.
This will come off judgemental but I mean no malice, just rationalising - but I wouldn’t imagine that a person who was addicted to drugs or alcohol and the cause of this was their babies prematurity would be expressing the milk, nor would I imagine the milk to be accepted in terms of contamination?
Yes, my son was in the NICU and I couldn’t express other than the first drops, my milk just didn’t come.That’s a good point. We’ve only heard of one where donor milk was used and that could have been for any reason if the mother’s milk hadn’t come in. Hopefully we’ll get more answers
They did mention itUnless I’m mistaken they didn’t even mention about the photos?
that’s the only thing not mentioned on leader however they have mentioned a lot more than sky xUnless I’m mistaken they didn’t even mention about the photos?
What makes you say that? All it says is "took a photo of them together in the cot", whether it was her phone, or a phone or camera belonging to the parents, there's no indication either waySounded like it was on her phone
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