I think they might be relatives. In the pic on facebook they are very young.
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Do Tom and Matt have the same last names?
Yes. There is a pic of them in 2017. They are clearly children/teens. So i think they could be her cousins maybe?
Are there tho? Like what? I understand that a lot of serial killers claim after the fact that there was a trigger point but oftentimes that’s just them trying to explain or justify after the fact. For example Peter Sutcliffe said he was robbed by a prostitute and that was the trigger for him to start killing prostitutes. The police thought he was lying about that and just trying to explain it after the fact. They thought the truth was that he just fantasised about it for ages and did it for sexual gratification.
Nilsson- no trigger. He just found corpses sexy. Hindley & Brady - no trigger. They just were obsessed with Nazis and thought that the experience of murdering a child would elevate them above common humanity (yeah, I know).
I’m not having a go at you I just think that kind, generous people will always look for external triggers because they want a rational explanation that they can understand? Whereas I think that there are some very very bad people who just do evil things out of the blue sometimes. And they like it so they keep doing it.
Im sure I’ve seen a snippet from a news channel saying it was found on her phone?
Defence.
Why because you said so?
I find it really odd that all that was written on a post it in her house and then looks like she’s gone back and added to it. Maybe it’s a strange thing to over think but wouldn’t she have had proper paper?
Just found the picture, I also think cousins. Bit strange to add them to the note don’t you think? I guess she was very close to them?
Also I assume she would have been in a union which to provide legal cover. But not sure the extent of circumstances that they would help.
There's a thread about the case in the medicine subreddit on Reddit. One of the mods is a neonatal nurse and she doesn't see anything conclusive in the medical info so far:
Nice objective stance there, thanks for your input!
Interesting. So according to the date this 21st Birthday message was posted on 31 Dec 2010 she would have been born late December 1989/early Jan 1990. Not important in the scheme of things but I'm sure at some point, prob after the trial there will be programmes etc and background/social information.
I heard they could be half brothers ( on Web sleuths ) . I have nothing to back this up though.
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this is from the live reporting earlier. There’s no context so we don’t why or how she did it. It might be dodgy, but it might not, we don’t know
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Her parents are still together though so that wouldn’t make much sense.
Let me try find it, I’ve been following the live feed rather than watching the news I just came across it whilst browsing.this is from the live reporting earlier. There’s no context so we don’t why or how she did it. It might be dodgy, but it might not, we don’t know
I’m assuming the answers to these questions will be presented as evidence by the prosecution and hopefully clear up some of those points
For people asking about legal aid, I hope I can help here. She would have been given legal aid as soon as she was arrested, however a high profile lawyer like that would very unlikely work for legal aid rates in normal circumstances. However, this is a very high profile case so he may have worked for a lower legal aid rate purely for the publicity and public interest. If not, it would have been up to Lucy and her family to pay the rest of his rates (a lot!). However, again with such a big case, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone who believed her innocence approached her with money offers to help her pay for him (go fund me vibes).
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