Lucy Letby Case #30

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Wtf was she doing on the labour ward when she had 3 babies in HDU and a student glued to her?

happy to hear this door swipe out but the reporting hasn’t said where the ‘from the labour ward’ data has come from. Is it just her say so or do they have a labour ward door swipe? (And what time was the labour ward door swipe if it exists)

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I’d like to know what the student witness statement was. Quick look I can’t see it in wiki so either not reported or may be a defence witness. If anyone finds it let me, I have to go out now, bloody annoying friends.

I’d like to know if Lucy ever gave her her swipe card and if Lucy sent her away to do anything.
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Here we go again. Can recall the event she wasn’t there for but not anything from other events.

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I’ve just checked the media spread sheet and the student nurse defs hasn’t been called to give evidence or has an agreed facts been read out from her, so I wonder will she be called by the defence as a witness. I also think this is the first time we’ve heard her named too
 
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And again, respectfully, maybe this just is one of the times that BM had managed to find she wasn’t there for. Prosecution haven’t even given their account of why she’s been placed with that baby, so I guess it’s within the realms of possibility that on this occasion it’s correct. I’m almost sure they’re cctv of the neonatal entrance so would show if she’d just nipped out and back in quickly. It’s just interesting as it shows to me how each side picks out the info that is most useful to them.
i think if there was CCTV it would have been mentioned by now. There defo is no cctv on any NICU I have been on and it’s really easy to get buzzed on.
 
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If I was the parents I’d be fuming to hear her say this about why she stayed caring for P 😡🤢


You could even say they’re now under that giant triple decker bus now too in a way 🤢
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ETA can anyone start a new thread, be really interesting to see the next poll too
 
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If I was the parents I’d be fuming to hear her say this about why she stayed caring for P 😡🤢


You could even say they’re now under that giant triple decker bus now too in a way 🤢
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ETA can anyone start a new thread, be really interesting to see the next poll too
I would be arrested myself if I was the triplets Mum at this point.
 
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So she potentially may have said this = she deffo did

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This statement by her about how she’s upset for two days (all me me me as per), and then it’s for the parents it’s as if she’s just saying the words she’s supposed to say, not how she actually feels. It’s just not natural the way she makes a lot of these statements. I am convinced she’s a psychopath that doesn’t have real emotions, it’s all what she thinks she should say and do rather than her genuine emotions/feelings

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I’ve just checked the media spread sheet and the student nurse defs hasn’t been called to give evidence or has an agreed facts been read out from her, so I wonder will she be called by the defence as a witness. I also think this is the first time we’ve heard her named too
Just as an FYI lovely. The media may be using that spreadsheet to help them, but I can see the author is Tom Snowdon who is very active on one of the Facebook groups. Not really important as most of it is just factual, but he's deffo not got the right picture of Melanie Taylor there x
 
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I would be arrested myself if I was the triplets Mum at this point.
Absolutely, I can only imagine how they’re all feeling sitting listening to this pile of bs in court. Especially E’s mum and the triplets. Must be awful having to go through it all again and basically be blamed/called a liar
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Just as an FYI lovely. The media may be using that spreadsheet to help them, but I can see the author is Tom Snowdon who is very active on one of the Facebook groups. Not really important as most of it is just factual, but he's deffo not got the right picture of Melanie Taylor there x
Is it the same one? The one I’ve been using has no author I can see, and I thought it was one of the media that created it? I know someone shared another spreadsheet in one of the threads not so long ago too. This one has every single witness listed and then shows daily who's been called etc. The student nurse deffo has not been called so far, nor has an agreed fact statement read out. Maybe she’ll not be called at all, or maybe she’ll be called by BM. But thanks for the info, it’s always better to double check
 
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LL ..Student nurse Rebecca Morgan ... Get under that bleeping bus for murdering baby P
Seriously I feel heart sorry for her the poor girl.
 
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Absolutely, I can only imagine how they’re all feeling sitting listening to this pile of bs in court. Especially E’s mum and the triplets. Must be awful having to go through it all again and basically be blamed/called a liar
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Is it the same one? The one I’ve been using has no author I can see, and I thought it was one of the media that created it? I know someone shared another spreadsheet in one of the threads not so long ago too. This one has every single witness listed and then shows daily who's been called etc. The student nurse deffo has not been called so far, nor has an agreed fact statement read out. Maybe she’ll not be called at all, or maybe she’ll be called by BM. But thanks for the info, it’s always better to double check
I think so. It's huge and has details from every day. And the list of witnesses has photos next to some of them (hello Dr David Harkness!! 😍)?? Fair play to him he's put some work into it, but yeah there's at least one error there. It's true though we haven't heard from the poor student nurse yet.
 

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Also how come the rash and colour change of O&P was noticed by at least several members of staff, yet LL (again is the only one) to say that’s not true. So either the whole hospital, in fact pretty much all of the 130 odd witnesses that we’ve heard from throughout are all wrong, or in fact they’re all right and therefore LL is actually a murderer
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I think so. It's huge and has details from every day. And the list of witnesses has photos next to some of them (hello Dr David Harkness!! 😍)?? Fair play to him he's put some work into it, but yeah there's at least one error there. It's true though we haven't heard from the poor student nurse yet.
I’ll double check now, wasn’t sure where you’d seen the author as I couldn’t find it anywhere but I know where you mean now

ETA the one I have defs does not have his name in it, so I wonder has he taken it, and then put his own name on it and saved it for himself maybe? Guess it doesn’t really matter tho I think the only times Ive really used it is to look and see which witness was called which day, but the wiki is always my first port of call for any actual important info or double checking etc
 
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Poor Lucy she's described her visit to A and E because of the needle wick injury and her fainting and not having eaten and no name driving her home. She's explained why she FB the family on the anniversary. This BS is really sickening.
 
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Poor Lucy she's described her visit to A and E because of the needle wick injury and her fainting and not having eaten and no name driving her home. She's explained why she FB the family on the anniversary. This BS is really sickening.
I cannot wait for prosecution to have their turn with her.
 
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LL ..Student nurse Rebecca Morgan ... Get under that bleeping bus for murdering baby P
Seriously I feel heart sorry for her the poor girl.
Yep it’s literally the whole hospital against poor LL. Would love for Tof’s question earlier to have been answered but no takers so far. It was the one where any people that believed LL was NG, or people still on the fence, do they think LL taking the stand has done her any favours or has it hurt her in their opinion
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I cannot wait for prosecution to have their turn with her.
I really hope we have at least one tattler able to attend court one of the days for this
@Tofino @Takemetoyourbuffet and @rararala im looking at you fellas 👀

@MmmB777 are you planning on trying to go and watch at all? If I wasn’t so far away I defs would have made the trip👎🏻
 
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Poor Lucy she's described her visit to A and E because of the needle wick injury and her fainting and not having eaten and no name driving her home. She's explained why she FB the family on the anniversary. This BS is really sickening.
Also she said no name gave her a lift as she would be walking home alone at night. It was 23 June two days after the longest day it wouldn't have even been dark at 10 pm.
 
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So let me get this straight. Literally every other member of staff in that unit is a murderer and LL is the only innocent one?! Seems likely.
 
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So let me get this straight. Literally every other member of staff in that unit is a murderer and LL is the only innocent one?! Seems likely.
My thoughts exactly. Genuinely…is this her best shot at defence? She is a wonderful, caring nurse caught in the crossfire of a unit full or murderers and incompetent care givers?! Pull the other one you psycho.
 
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Me me me me I’m the victim I’m the only one who noticed everything the ward wasn’t safe if it wasn’t for me it would’ve been worse
Those poor parents. This isn’t a legal defence it’s a narcissists bleeping mind games.
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Also she said no name gave her a lift as she would be walking home alone at night. It was 23 June two days after the longest day it wouldn't have even been dark at 10 pm.
She had no problem hurting and killing babies. I’m sure she could’ve found the strength to ward off anyone intimidating
 
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It’s just interesting as it shows to me how each side picks out the info that is most useful to them.
Surely this isn't a surprise though? Both parties have done this, as they do in every trial ever and why both get a say and chances to cross examine etc to give the jury the best chance of being able to make a fair decision based on everything. I don't think it's unusual to have in discussions like this either.
 
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