Sorry you have to experience that. English is my third language and for sure I made a mistakes sometimes too. I would hope so as long as we can communicate quite clearly people here don't mind that ( and I think most of them don't have any problems and isn't grammar/spelling police).
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I think they said she had a placement at liverpool womens hospital. No mention of others. What year was it? We know she qualified in 2011 and think she stopped working directly with babies in 2016 after baby Q. Even if it wasn’t Lucy maybe you could ask for a review. I don’t know how that works though.
Yeah it’s fine to think that. It’s week one of a 6 month trial. No juror would ever be expected to have made their mind up at this point. It’s much too soon. It’s like deciding not to read a book because you’ve read the back cover and think it’s enough.
I think I mentioned it in previous threads but they move so quickly I thought I’d mention it again… my partner is a surgeon and he thinks this is what happened. He has a lot of experience in medico-legal cases too.
Maybe not murderous. It’s the context of the searches though. Was it only the families of the babies she’s accused of killing? Or others?
As another poster said she herself has given no explanation of why she’s done it. Only stating that she can’t remember. This seems implausible as it was a regular occurrence.
Everyone is ascribing their own explanations but where are hers?
This was Beverly Allit, not LL
I can honestly say I have only ever looked up one patient on social media. That is because his wife said he was on only fans. I wasn't alone when I did it, several of us were peered around my phone.
I leave work at work and find it odd when colleagues get a little too attached as the boundaries can become blurred very quickly.
I leave work at work and find it odd when colleagues get a little too attached as the boundaries can become blurred very quickly.
Oh ok so it was 2017 so that’s one thing.
It was in Bangor . The nurse kept forcing the NG down my daughters nose and it damaged her tummy she ended up being treated for suspected NEC and back on cpap.
I said I didn’t want her near my daughter again and didn’t leave her side . Refused any more NG and I had her home 6 days later
It was in Bangor . The nurse kept forcing the NG down my daughters nose and it damaged her tummy she ended up being treated for suspected NEC and back on cpap.
I said I didn’t want her near my daughter again and didn’t leave her side . Refused any more NG and I had her home 6 days later
It's definitely breaching professional boundaries.
The Facebook searches mean nothing on their own. Obviously! Why do they have her Facebook searches in the first place? Cos there are lots of other reasons to suspect she did what she’s being accused of! The searches add to the picture! They’re not the whole picture!
This is what had to happen to me
This tickled me
can I also ask the nurses.. lucy was requesting to work with certain rooms and I think sometimes specific babies. Is that typical? Of my nurse friends.. I know they prefer certain areas eg paediatric, a&e etc but I can’t imagine any of them asking to be with specific patients. I can imagine if there is a harder patient group to work with you might all discuss sharing that around for stress reasons etc but for one nurse to ask “I want to be here or I want to work with this specific baby”
Is that fairly standard?
i thought the same. I was a 24 weeker in the late 70s and I know how much care advanced from things my parents saidThis doctors experience is from the 80's and 90's! Could prosecution not have found someone with more recent clinical experience
Depends. If I’m working several days in a row, and I’ve cared for the same patients for those shifts, it’s easier to keep going with the same patients as opposed to switching to new ones and learning all their medical history etc. Or some people ‘need’ to do certain things if they have competencies to get signed off, like I often have students working with me, and that student might want to witness x skill, so I’d ask to care for a patient that requires x skill during the shift.This tickled me
can I also ask the nurses.. lucy was requesting to work with certain rooms and I think sometimes specific babies. Is that typical? Of my nurse friends.. I know they prefer certain areas eg paediatric, a&e etc but I can’t imagine any of them asking to be with specific patients. I can imagine if there is a harder patient group to work with you might all discuss sharing that around for stress reasons etc but for one nurse to ask “I want to be here or I want to work with this specific baby”
Is that fairly standard?
Quite a few theads behind. Just want to say re: the mum who found her child bleeding and Lucy said due to ngt. Childrens nurse here and worked many years in nicu and not once have I experienced any blood loss or blood due to ngt, however I am no longer clinical so who knows. actually find this part quite horrifying that a parent walked into that.
also side not I’m so unclear how she haa allegedly managed to do this I know all trust are different but usually special baby care is one room and ITU is another room. Usually within my trust only itu experienced and trained nurses are in the itu room so unless she is in rooms she should not be in due to level of training then that is concerning also.
although it is common to do a nurses checks or obs during the allocated nurse break.
also side not I’m so unclear how she haa allegedly managed to do this I know all trust are different but usually special baby care is one room and ITU is another room. Usually within my trust only itu experienced and trained nurses are in the itu room so unless she is in rooms she should not be in due to level of training then that is concerning also.
although it is common to do a nurses checks or obs during the allocated nurse break.
Don't know if this is even relative to the subject butttt... I had my eldest nearly 10 yrs ago and the midwife really went above and beyond for us and I contacted her (via my old GP) a few years later to just let her know how we were doing and I hadn't forgotten her help. I got an email back from her directly saying how she remembers us so well even after all those years. Not sure what point I'm even trying to make???? I guess some cases stick with professionals??
you can request - say if you’ve worked a lot with a patient and family you can request to go back for continuity, some wanting more exposure can ask for level three patients and if you’ve had a pretty rough shift you can ask for something easier the next time. It’s not massively common and not always adhered to but it can happen. Not usually by text though.This tickled me
can I also ask the nurses.. lucy was requesting to work with certain rooms and I think sometimes specific babies. Is that typical? Of my nurse friends.. I know they prefer certain areas eg paediatric, a&e etc but I can’t imagine any of them asking to be with specific patients. I can imagine if there is a harder patient group to work with you might all discuss sharing that around for stress reasons etc but for one nurse to ask “I want to be here or I want to work with this specific baby”
Is that fairly standard?
Didn’t see this reply and I wrote similar xx
The only thing I can think is did she for whatever reason, dislike the families of these particular babies and in her (twisted) mind think she was ‘saving’ them from a life with the families. That’s quite often the motive in female baby snatchers/killers.
I’ve no doubt some cases do stick with professionals, they are only human. I suppose all it says to me though is that if these cases stuck with Lucy then why does she say she can’t remember searching them on Facebook. It just doesn’t add up.
I think the answer to that lies in who else she searched on fb. If it was many patients then she could very well not remember. However if it was a select few, you'd expect some sort of recollection of looking.
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