Both Lauren Davies and Georgia Archer were nothing but cogs in the works for the tinpot twins to portray themselves as genuine family men. The harsh truth is neither Rhys Davies nor Llewellyn Davies were in the relationship for the love for their partners. It was so clear and there were many signs pointing to this for quite some time. Deep down, I’m sure both Lauren Davies and Georgia Archer look back now and realise this to be true. How they both lasted so long with the pair of cretins is beyond me.
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Let's be honest here, they lasted that long because they liked the high life. Have you not seen Lauren Davies Facebook page? The girl can't stop bragging even after Rhys has left the rented.
Louder for for the people at the back. Recommending a known fraudster by loading praise on results he brought you, whatever the reason for doing so will not make you look good. Liking comments on the video where that very person you just heaped praise on is called toxic and a conman is not getting you off the hook either. In fact it makes you look weird quite frankly.
So I see Matt hall has a further coaching qualification. I'm guessing it wasn't cheap, but 100 learning hours (online) ? It's not a reflection on him but the pathetically low bar set by the MLM coaching industry.
I did comment about another shoddy qualification but he finally blocked me!
FYI that Tony robbins course is a spin off of his work and he’s merely a poster for it. It’s $3.5k for 100 hours of online learnings. Nothing great just look stupid the YT reviews of what it actually entails. It’s gaslighting like the twins
Very good school of thought actually.
I do think he is scared of Llewllyn and hesitant to say the truth - but yes, he is just as responsible for advertising and endorsing his behaviour and enabling him to continue his con.
Totally agree. Think if he was that bothered about "congruency" with his mentor, he would have left while he knew he was cheating on his wife and not left it until now. I'm not family or even close with Matt at all, just know him - I think I've only spoken to him like once, but obviously my close friend was involved heavily and that's how I got to know him. I told my friend that if you pay Matt, you pay Llewllyn - and are contributing to a dangerous MLM, showed them this thread, so obviously they quit using his services.
I did say in a previous post on thread #2 that although I think Matt is not a conman through-and-through, the way he runs things is definitely dodgy and the fact that he keeps his clients for such a long amount of time, with no end date, no end goals, and continuing month to month willy nilly is a HUGE red flag to me and I'd never work with someone who has no set time-frame like that. It is really dodgy and feels like a definite over-inflation of what he is actually worth.
I would love to hear the inner circle's thoughts about Llewy D, or maybe they are genuinely grateful to him and don't see where he went wrong (?) If it was the latter, then I would absolutely revoke my previous comments about his character as they think scamming people like that is acceptable, so will probably do it themselves (as they already have started to show under the influence on Llewy D).
Ahh, I didn't see that! I just overheard on one of the calls with my friend about the success cycle so assumed it was all above board. That's a shame. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
It's very bizarre isn't it. Feels very school-girl-esque of talking behind your back but being too scared to say it to your face
Louder for for the people at the back. Recommending a known fraudster by loading praise on results he brought you, whatever the reason for doing so will not make you look good. Liking comments on the video where that very person you just heaped praise on is called toxic and a conman is not getting you off the hook either. In fact it makes you look weird quite frankly.
Wonder if the twins have major dirt on the inner circle and that's why they only have good things to say?
Surely if everything was golden, then they'd still be working with them?
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She can brag if she wants, she was always spending her own money, her company was paying for everything anyway.
No, let’s be honest here. Two women, both whom have children, both whom had a whole lot more than what Rhys and Llewy did when they first met them! Both strong, independent women got sucked in to a controlling and manipulated situation. Both soon lost independence and as Rhys and Llewy grew, so did the situation these girls got manipulated in to. From having everything of their own to then having to rely on these cretins. Getting trapped in a very dark and controlling situation. What courage to walk away from that!
lauren may do what she likes over Facebook but she has far more of her own as does Georgia to brag about then both them two clowns put together. Hopefully these two girls will be standing loud and proud and in their own two feet again! They certainly don’t need people slating them for escaping an abusive relationship. Makes you almost as bad as them two bullies!
Maybe they lasted that long because they once loved them? Believe it or not when you love someone you tend to try to make it work when cracks start appearing. I’m sure they had their own battles to contend with in their relationships when red flags started appearing... way beyond what any of us here could believe!!!
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Jesus Christ. Matt Hall got Tony Robbins 'qualification'? The Big Daddy of Snake Oil?
Tony bloody Robbins. All the shouting dancing and loud music plus public 'coaching' (i.e shaming and manipulating people for the performance with the grim bit where he asks thousands of people in the audience to agree with him on how someone's facial expression confirms his genius observation) plus the long days in a very cold room (ostensibly to keep you awake but mostly yet another technique to get people physically uncomfortable and less resilient) and therefore break your boundaries quicker. Also cold room - you can buy a Tony Robbins hoodie in the foyer - ever the salesman ;-) FOMO and upselling abound. Not to mention that as Tony was furious about covid restrictions cramping his 5000 people events, so all the way through the pandemic he was promoting the most bleeping horrendous selection of Covid deniers aka all those wonderful scientists that seem to be disagreeing with the consensus and conveniently promoting all sorts of Covid-proof supplements and other quackery. Oh and he recommends MLMs as a good business model. GTFO as far as I am concerned.
I realise he might have fans here but Tony Robbins is the rightful successor of many before him, first L Ron Hubbard with Scientology, then Est with Werner Erhard, Lifespring, and countless other culty 60/70s new age large group awareness training organisation that when religious sentiments started waning after WWII, those seized on the new trends emerging in philosophy, psychology and specifically with focus on human individuality as engine for change and started monetising it because capitalism waits for no man, right ;-) Young Tony was watching and just picked up the mantle and MLMed it up.
Check this out - fascinating history of this type of training
Large-group awareness training - Wikipedia
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- I don’t know either of these two ladies but what I’ve seen from all of these tattle pages makes me feel sick.The reality is both of these girls have been controlled and received mental and maybe even physical abuse by these two narcissistic bullies.
They have finally broke free and if they want to brag about their lives then why shouldn’t they.
from what I’ve seen Lauren is doing very well, but just remember as Rhys likes to constantly tell us - social media is a portrayal of what they want us to see.
Just because both exes appear to be “ok” and “bragging” as you put it, I highly
Doubt they are and it may take them years to get over what these arseholes put them through.
just remember the girls both read these posts so be kind.
whether they knew what was going on or not, they’ve suffered enough.
Exactly, let Lauren talk about her business. These threads exist to warn people about the Davies twins, about how they destroy lives, careers, they cheat, lie and steal. They have no scruples, morals or ethics and leave everything in chaos. To be coached by them is to set your personal development back years.Love this
The reality is both of these girls have been controlled and received mental and maybe even physical abuse by these two narcissistic bullies.
They have finally broke free and if they want to brag about their lives then why shouldn’t they.
from what I’ve seen Lauren is doing very well, but just remember as Rhys likes to constantly tell us - social media is a portrayal of what they want us to see.
Just because both exes appear to be “ok” and “bragging” as you put it, I highly
Doubt they are and it may take them years to get over what these arseholes put them through.
just remember the girls both read these posts so be kind.
whether they knew what was going on or not, they’ve suffered enough.
Please use their full names Matt Hall or Llewellyn Davies / llewelyn Davies / RHYS Davies in full so that these threads are picked up on GoogleVery good school of thought actually.
I do think he is scared of Llewllyn and hesitant to say the truth - but yes, he is just as responsible for advertising and endorsing his behaviour and enabling him to continue his con.
Totally agree. Think if he was that bothered about "congruency" with his mentor, he would have left while he knew he was cheating on his wife and not left it until now. I'm not family or even close with Matt at all, just know him - I think I've only spoken to him like once, but obviously my close friend was involved heavily and that's how I got to know him. I told my friend that if you pay Matt, you pay Llewllyn - and are contributing to a dangerous MLM, showed them this thread, so obviously they quit using his services.
I did say in a previous post on thread #2 that although I think Matt is not a conman through-and-through, the way he runs things is definitely dodgy and the fact that he keeps his clients for such a long amount of time, with no end date, no end goals, and continuing month to month willy nilly is a HUGE red flag to me and I'd never work with someone who has no set time-frame like that. It is really dodgy and feels like a definite over-inflation of what he is actually worth.
I would love to hear the inner circle's thoughts about Llewy D, or maybe they are genuinely grateful to him and don't see where he went wrong (?) If it was the latter, then I would absolutely revoke my previous comments about his character as they think scamming people like that is acceptable, so will probably do it themselves (as they already have started to show under the influence on Llewy D).
Ahh, I didn't see that! I just overheard on one of the calls with my friend about the success cycle so assumed it was all above board. That's a shame. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
It's very bizarre isn't it. Feels very school-girl-esque of talking behind your back but being too scared to say it to your face
Wonder if the twins have major dirt on the inner circle and that's why they only have good things to say?
Surely if everything was golden, then they'd still be working with them?
I hope one day both women speak the truth, so many woman (and men) get trapped in narcasistic, abusive relationships and it happens over a long period of time, dripfeeding, & the brainwashing is gradual. Both women are very brave to walk away and protect the children and get to a point of clarity/realisation.
Both Lauren & Georgia talking about it may help other individuals down the line but understandably both ladies have to be ready, feel safe and not under threat from the Davies twins.
Rhys Davies & Llewellyn Davies are clearly both selfish and have no empathy or morals with regards to the people they have con'd and the trail of distruction they have inflicted. They are narcissists and they both view their ex partners, stepkids, child as just someone to meet their needs. They will not value & respect anyone in the way, ex partners/clients/family would want to be valued and respected, but instead, they will only respect the way they make them look.
It is clear that the twins both have an inflated sense of importance, a deep need for excessive attention & admiration, it is classic narcasistic traits.
The thing is they obviously both need some sort of professional help, mentally, because they clearly are pretty screwed up.
Narcasistic and pathological liars!
I know for a fact Rhys Davies has rented every property he has been in with Lauren including the one he is in on his own now...renting is fine but to lie and give people the perception that you live a life of wealth and grandure to lure people in... then con them is disgusting.
The art etc is just to distribute £££ in order to avade the taxman.
Watches are bought 2nd hand and some rented.
Cars, some are bought, lambo is on repayments.
Scammed money is distributed between a number of companies/accounts or cash...again avoiding the taxman.
Vagas and Llewys dog were bought from Protection Dogs who no longer wanted to associate with them thus why bellatrix was sourced from another outfit, but I recon Rhys has dropped out of that now.
Videographers have walked away because they were treated so badly, they wont speak out publicly due to being threatened.
James Burtt, really decent guy with a lovely family. Once he realised how unethical and toxic the twins are he walked.
I could keep going on and on...because literally the twins lives, "wealth" ect are just lies upon lies, smokescreens and mirrors.
I hope all the individuals who have invested in the twins as coaches come to terms with it and make peace knowing they are not the only ones to fall victim to this ruthless scam.
I also hope that this forum highlights to anyone thinking of working with this two conmen the dangers, if it stops people from getting sucked in then amazing!
Both Lauren & Georgia talking about it may help other individuals down the line but understandably both ladies have to be ready, feel safe and not under threat from the Davies twins.
Rhys Davies & Llewellyn Davies are clearly both selfish and have no empathy or morals with regards to the people they have con'd and the trail of distruction they have inflicted. They are narcissists and they both view their ex partners, stepkids, child as just someone to meet their needs. They will not value & respect anyone in the way, ex partners/clients/family would want to be valued and respected, but instead, they will only respect the way they make them look.
It is clear that the twins both have an inflated sense of importance, a deep need for excessive attention & admiration, it is classic narcasistic traits.
The thing is they obviously both need some sort of professional help, mentally, because they clearly are pretty screwed up.
Narcasistic and pathological liars!
I know for a fact Rhys Davies has rented every property he has been in with Lauren including the one he is in on his own now...renting is fine but to lie and give people the perception that you live a life of wealth and grandure to lure people in... then con them is disgusting.
The art etc is just to distribute £££ in order to avade the taxman.
Watches are bought 2nd hand and some rented.
Cars, some are bought, lambo is on repayments.
Scammed money is distributed between a number of companies/accounts or cash...again avoiding the taxman.
Vagas and Llewys dog were bought from Protection Dogs who no longer wanted to associate with them thus why bellatrix was sourced from another outfit, but I recon Rhys has dropped out of that now.
Videographers have walked away because they were treated so badly, they wont speak out publicly due to being threatened.
James Burtt, really decent guy with a lovely family. Once he realised how unethical and toxic the twins are he walked.
I could keep going on and on...because literally the twins lives, "wealth" ect are just lies upon lies, smokescreens and mirrors.
I hope all the individuals who have invested in the twins as coaches come to terms with it and make peace knowing they are not the only ones to fall victim to this ruthless scam.
I also hope that this forum highlights to anyone thinking of working with this two conmen the dangers, if it stops people from getting sucked in then amazing!
Such a well written post. Thank you for sharing. I wish both Lauren and Georgia the best of luck. Rhys Davies any Llewellyn Davies are con artists and despicable individuals. Seems even the work they allegedly did for charity wasn’t all they made it out to be. One wonders what made them like this - do they have regrets on how they have behaved - are they sad at losing their relationships or are they more concerned about appearance and wealth. I reckon it’s the latter
Didn’t rhys Davies only state two weeks ago that he was staying “single as duck” but mow hes making it obvious that he’s with another woman? He’s like a teenager. If he wanted to keep it quiet then he would but he’s made the choice to flaunt it obviously for a reaction.
just Shows Lauren and the little girl can’t have meant that much to him - they were an accessory or he was just freeloading off of Lauren’s success. Funny how Lauren was open and honest about moving back with her dad but Rhys Davies carried on his liesthat he owned the property previous to the White House. Which we know is false as it’s up for sale and upon phone calls to the estate agents it’s actually owned by a family who are living abroad and now looking to sell.
Bellatrix was a short lived dog. I reckon returned where she came from.
I wonder if there’s any more info on the previously mentioned scandal where TTT put a guy in hospital with their dodgy pre workout.
just Shows Lauren and the little girl can’t have meant that much to him - they were an accessory or he was just freeloading off of Lauren’s success. Funny how Lauren was open and honest about moving back with her dad but Rhys Davies carried on his liesthat he owned the property previous to the White House. Which we know is false as it’s up for sale and upon phone calls to the estate agents it’s actually owned by a family who are living abroad and now looking to sell.
Bellatrix was a short lived dog. I reckon returned where she came from.
I wonder if there’s any more info on the previously mentioned scandal where TTT put a guy in hospital with their dodgy pre workout.
Just an opinion:
when you ( Llewy and Rhys Davies) portray a wealthy life, and you start going backwards …. I think the question they might be asking themselves how to maintain the image
One thing we don’t know , how long they can keep going maintaining that image.
We can clearly see that things are falling apart.
relationships, income streams….. only they know how much reserve there is in the tank.
the sad part is , that people will put trust in them and they might end up being hurt for their benefit and for what purpose….. to maintain a lifestyle that u can’t afford.
I know a few real millionaires and very successful individuals that if you would met on the street they would appear as someone that works a 9-5.
my point is all the fancy stuff and all nice and beautiful, but have you purchased it with your HARD EARNED money or just scammed few people and that’s it.
humble goes a long way and HONEST goes even longer. We all have silly little lies in our lifetime but the big ones will catch up with people, and then the truth will come out soon or later.
mall coaching and mentoring turned into bodybuilding and travel.
no clients to be seen ? No zoom calls ? No seminars ? It’s all BODYBUILDING and more bodybuilding….. so what are you ? A life coach or a fitness coach ? Because he’ll I’m confused ?! So many qualifications and I don’t exactly understand what they are doing
promoting champions of minds but the domain is expired and it’s for sale.
the whole show looks like a mess that needs a serious clear out !
these are just some thoughts and I wish it might open peoples eyes , I don’t expect anyone to agree but a lot of people know that there are some serious problems here
Yes, it's all unravelling. I said it before but I will say it again: that's what you get for outsourcing credibility. They personally have none so it was all based on other people or material items to provide it.
They needed partners to neutralize the basic aggressive basic image they have. This is a known abuse tactic by the way - Harvey Weinstein would often have a woman in the room when an actress he was planning to attack was coming for a meeting. Women are seen as softer, civilizing influence so that's why both Rhys and Llewelyn Davies were spamming with pictures of their family constantly without care for privacy. All of the captions were also very revealing. I remember last year scrolling through Llewelyn Davies insta in he midst of Sarah Akwisombe saga where he kept showcasing his ex-wife and child and it was clearly - "look at my prized possessions" vibe. Yuck!
The same goes for inner circle. Matt Hall has a boy next door image (which is why the older women in his Body Shop at Home downline love him so much) as does Alec Witts and Pretesh Parmar - just nice, non-threatening lads. Of that later.
They were as much part of the smokescreen as the rented Lambos, knackered Bentleys and rented manors. In fact they still are. Georgia left that abuser Llewellyn Davies months ago and he still has pictures of her hanging all over his Facebook. I assure you it is not out of love - they are there so if he's being checked out by a prospective client, it's still part of his image as a upstanding 'family man' where we know he's anything but that. If I were her I would notify Facebook of image misuse. They are tit at privacy but if you really press and provide evidence it they may do something about it and if that fails get your friends to mass report pics and the algorithm will do its job as it must be so galling/upsetting to see it. Same goes for you Lauren if you are reading.
Look at every time the twins actually show what is their authentic selves it involves swearing, lashing out, threats, semi nude pictures of themselves, wads of cash, disordered chaotic posting of random thoughts/threats/delusions. The healthy reaction is literally 'eeeeek' on sight. The sort of audience that attracts is not the sort of audience that has the money to pay what they want them to pay - sorry. Now that all those people are gone - that is literally their content. Soon the houses and cars will go to. What will be left.
Blatant misogyny is always good indicator of staying well clear for women, and men. If you tolerate that in any shape or form don't be surprised if you find that it'll turn on you - I am looking at you here Matt Hall, Alec Witts and Pretesh Parmar. Gentlemen, I will remind you that after the extremely grim show of last year where countless women came out and outed the twins for horrendously abusive behaviour and stealing their money, you continued to sit pretty alongside them validating them and left fawning comments on Llewy's bullshit non-apologies. Some serious self- reflection on that is required here on how you were able to ignore that especially as you are in a business of coaching.
A pretty reliable rule of thumb is that misogynists hate women (obviously) but are also hate/fear other of men. They try to emulate what some template of masculinity but cannot do it authentically. Both ways of operating is dysfunctional of course. A number of people mentioned on these threads that twins are not as hard as they say/try to portray they are and the moment they were properly confronted by a stronger/more aggressive party in during their steroid dealing/dodgy gym days in Coventry they run for the hills. Hence all that posturing on Instagram about how those who cross them will be 'dead men' and pictures of knuckledusters. Lads please. If an actual gangster turned up at the door of those rented manors of yours you'd be climbing out of a back window in your Primark undies and running into a field. You prey on vulnerable because that is all you are capable of. Grim.
They needed partners to neutralize the basic aggressive basic image they have. This is a known abuse tactic by the way - Harvey Weinstein would often have a woman in the room when an actress he was planning to attack was coming for a meeting. Women are seen as softer, civilizing influence so that's why both Rhys and Llewelyn Davies were spamming with pictures of their family constantly without care for privacy. All of the captions were also very revealing. I remember last year scrolling through Llewelyn Davies insta in he midst of Sarah Akwisombe saga where he kept showcasing his ex-wife and child and it was clearly - "look at my prized possessions" vibe. Yuck!
The same goes for inner circle. Matt Hall has a boy next door image (which is why the older women in his Body Shop at Home downline love him so much) as does Alec Witts and Pretesh Parmar - just nice, non-threatening lads. Of that later.
They were as much part of the smokescreen as the rented Lambos, knackered Bentleys and rented manors. In fact they still are. Georgia left that abuser Llewellyn Davies months ago and he still has pictures of her hanging all over his Facebook. I assure you it is not out of love - they are there so if he's being checked out by a prospective client, it's still part of his image as a upstanding 'family man' where we know he's anything but that. If I were her I would notify Facebook of image misuse. They are tit at privacy but if you really press and provide evidence it they may do something about it and if that fails get your friends to mass report pics and the algorithm will do its job as it must be so galling/upsetting to see it. Same goes for you Lauren if you are reading.
Look at every time the twins actually show what is their authentic selves it involves swearing, lashing out, threats, semi nude pictures of themselves, wads of cash, disordered chaotic posting of random thoughts/threats/delusions. The healthy reaction is literally 'eeeeek' on sight. The sort of audience that attracts is not the sort of audience that has the money to pay what they want them to pay - sorry. Now that all those people are gone - that is literally their content. Soon the houses and cars will go to. What will be left.
Blatant misogyny is always good indicator of staying well clear for women, and men. If you tolerate that in any shape or form don't be surprised if you find that it'll turn on you - I am looking at you here Matt Hall, Alec Witts and Pretesh Parmar. Gentlemen, I will remind you that after the extremely grim show of last year where countless women came out and outed the twins for horrendously abusive behaviour and stealing their money, you continued to sit pretty alongside them validating them and left fawning comments on Llewy's bullshit non-apologies. Some serious self- reflection on that is required here on how you were able to ignore that especially as you are in a business of coaching.
A pretty reliable rule of thumb is that misogynists hate women (obviously) but are also hate/fear other of men. They try to emulate what some template of masculinity but cannot do it authentically. Both ways of operating is dysfunctional of course. A number of people mentioned on these threads that twins are not as hard as they say/try to portray they are and the moment they were properly confronted by a stronger/more aggressive party in during their steroid dealing/dodgy gym days in Coventry they run for the hills. Hence all that posturing on Instagram about how those who cross them will be 'dead men' and pictures of knuckledusters. Lads please. If an actual gangster turned up at the door of those rented manors of yours you'd be climbing out of a back window in your Primark undies and running into a field. You prey on vulnerable because that is all you are capable of. Grim.
40million before he’s 40 !!!!!!!!
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someone shoot me to the moon
Christ, is this his newest venture then? This man is horribly deluded, I can't imagine how he isn't exhausted everyday from the amount of utter bullshit he seems to spout every second of the day.40million before he’s 40 !!!!!!!!
someone shoot me to the moon
Someone closeby, do give him a shake.
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