Life Plus Cindy

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Okay, after that 3 hour livestream, I have some thoughts.

#1 Money
At multiple times during the stream she talked about barely having enough money and her bills but also about the stuff she is going to buy, like the septum piercing, opening a PO Box, tattoo for her birthday, getting the dogs groomed, concert tickets etc. That does not scream someone who is barely making ends meet. Beginning to feel like a grift. When she said she was "really good at making money online" something about that rubbed me the wrong way, like she was bragging about how successful she was while taking pity donations from people.

#2 Allowing people who live near her to become her friends/dating a subscriber
Yikes on bikes. That's how you get obsessed stalkers. That definitely does not seem like a good idea to me. It's okay to become friends with subscribers in your area but fan meetups are full of crazies.

#3 Inconsistencies/Lies
Knowing who he cheated on in her "purging my space of him" and walking it back in her livestream with suspicion. Her vlogs being her "only means of income" but admits her Pleasant Sims blog is the majority of her income. Lying to her Youtube audience, lying to her family. The more I see her lie the less I believe anything that comes out of her mouth. $10 says she can't remember her lies.

#4 Getting Canceled
She mentioned this TWICE. Why does this woman think she is going to get canceled? Who even thinks about that? Unless she has a guilty conscience about something.

#5 Gibbons is most likely gone for good
When she said there was no reason to keep a good relationship with Andrew's family, I knew leaving Gibbons behind was calculated. He has health issues, needs special food and water and expensive vet appointments. I've never dealt with animals in an apartment but not being able to get Gibbons for "insurance purposes" seems odd to me, like a copout or convenient excuse she came up with. Can anyone shed some light on that? Has anyone heard of anything like that, for animals that aren't restricted dog breeds? She also said that when she goes to Colorado to register the car she won't be getting Gibbons because she doesn't want to travel across country with him. Then, like she remembers the story she's supposed to stick to, she adds that she can't keep him in her apartment anyway. Liars go into excessive detail and think of weird stuff to say that honest people would never think of.
She made a lot of money of this livestream. She's no fool. She's always mentioning her crappy pc or her crappy webcam and it never seems genuine. To me, it feels like she says these things hoping that people will send her something better or some money.

Regarding the lies, for goodness sake, her family doesn't know she's a youtuber and still thinks she works as a health coder. She says it hasn't come up yet. What the hell? How do you not tell your family you've quit your job years ago?

I don't understand how Pleasant Sims is her main source of income when she hasn't uploaded in ages. Are there so many people watching those old videos? Her most recent video on that channel is 8 months old. She shouldn't be getting that much traffic.

Either way, she doesn't strike me as a genuine person. There's some facial expressions that definitely raise some red flags and, to me, it makes it seem like she's just playing people.
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Andrew also sent her an email during the stream, apparently.
 
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She made a lot of money of this livestream. She's no fool. She's always mentioning her crappy pc or her crappy webcam and it never seems genuine. To me, it feels like she says these things hoping that people will send her something better or some money.

Regarding the lies, for goodness sake, her family doesn't know she's a youtuber and still thinks she works as a health coder. She says it hasn't come up yet. What the hell? How do you not tell your family you've quit your job years ago?

I don't understand how Pleasant Sims is her main source of income when she hasn't uploaded in ages. Are there so many people watching those old videos? Her most recent video on that channel is 8 months old. She shouldn't be getting that much traffic.

Either way, she doesn't strike me as a genuine person. There's some facial expressions that definitely raise some red flags and, to me, it makes it seem like she's just playing people.
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Andrew also sent her an email during the stream, apparently.
The majority of her money comes from her Pleasant Sims blog, not her channel. While she was making Sims content she was obsessively writing blog posts about every little detail and thing you could do in The Sims 2. Then she moved onto Sims 3. Most of the fan sites for both games are dead or defunct so having up to date information, even if it isn't any different from other sites, means people are going to click on it and you are going to make a lot of money. That's why Kelsey Impicciche and Taylorsaurus have fan websites. It is much easier to make money that way, instead of on crowded Youtube.

"She doesn't strike me as a genuine person." I hate to say this, but when Amberlynn Reid said "Welcome to Gorl World" to her in her donation message, my immediate thought was takes one lolcow to know a lolcow. I don't really know what defines a lolcow but her behavior is matching up with the behavior the typical lolcows get called out for. That "if I get canceled" could be a projection of what she fears is going to happen to her. Her lies are going to catch up to her and her livestreams will out her because she can't edit what she says live.
 
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About family not knowing she does YouTube.
I remember she mentioned in a stream a long time ago that when she first started her pleasant sims channel someone from her sister-in-law’s family discovered her channel because they played the sims. However, I’m not sure if the SIL was her brother’s wife or Andrew’s sister.
 
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She made a lot of money of this livestream. She's no fool. She's always mentioning her crappy pc or her crappy webcam and it never seems genuine. To me, it feels like she says these things hoping that people will send her something better or some money.

Regarding the lies, for goodness sake, her family doesn't know she's a youtuber and still thinks she works as a health coder. She says it hasn't come up yet. What the hell? How do you not tell your family you've quit your job years ago?

I don't understand how Pleasant Sims is her main source of income when she hasn't uploaded in ages. Are there so many people watching those old videos? Her most recent video on that channel is 8 months old. She shouldn't be getting that much traffic.

Either way, she doesn't strike me as a genuine person. There's some facial expressions that definitely raise some red flags and, to me, it makes it seem like she's just playing people.
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Andrew also sent her an email during the stream, apparently.
The family part gets me. I understand people may or may not be close to their family’s especially for Cindy given her childhood trauma.

But to the extent that they still think she’s working at her prior full time position and that they don’t know that she’s a full time YouTuber only?!?
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The majority of her money comes from her Pleasant Sims blog, not her channel. While she was making Sims content she was obsessively writing blog posts about every little detail and thing you could do in The Sims 2. Then she moved onto Sims 3. Most of the fan sites for both games are dead or defunct so having up to date information, even if it isn't any different from other sites, means people are going to click on it and you are going to make a lot of money. That's why Kelsey Impicciche and Taylorsaurus have fan websites. It is much easier to make money that way, instead of on crowded Youtube.

"She doesn't strike me as a genuine person." I hate to say this, but when Amberlynn Reid said "Welcome to Gorl World" to her in her donation message, my immediate thought was takes one lolcow to know a lolcow. I don't really know what defines a lolcow but her behavior is matching up with the behavior the typical lolcows get called out for. That "if I get canceled" could be a projection of what she fears is going to happen to her. Her lies are going to catch up to her and her livestreams will out her because she can't edit what she says live.
I see on her website that there’s an Amazon and EBay disclosure in terms of ads. So she would be doing ok financially from the ads that pop up on the bottom of the page?
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Oh Cindy, no. Good she’s finding out who she is outside of Andrew, but like…how can you do that if you’re just going to jump right into another relationship? And she started talking to other men less than 72 hours after Andrew left - for some perspective, it took her longer to have enough of an appetite to eat something than it did for her to start talking to other guys.

A part of this is definitely related to her mental illness for sure and her hating to be alone, but you can’t tell me this isn’t at least a little bit her trying to make Andrew jealous.
Not sure if this is accurate but heard from some people that divorcing someone for a long time is almost like a death in terms of processing it. It’s wild.

Glad that she isn’t pursuing any more relationships at the time.
 
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I see on her website that there’s an Amazon and EBay disclosure in terms of ads. So she would be doing ok financially from the ads that pop up on the bottom of the page?
It really depends if people click on them. Say someone comes to her website for Sims 2 content and they see Ebay ads for the Sims 2 game discs. If they click that ad, she'll get money for it and if they buy through that ad, she would make money from it too. Targeted ads pay very well. She can have multiple ads on her webpages; video ads, banner ads, overlay ads etc. All of those pay differently but having a top, bottom and two side ads per webpage means she gets paid multiple times for each page view.

I remember she mentioned in a stream a long time ago that when she first started her pleasant sims channel someone from her sister-in-law’s family discovered her channel because they played the sims. However, I’m not sure if the SIL was her brother’s wife or Andrew’s sister.
The story keeps changing. When she was streaming, she said Andrew cooked for her but when she was packing her stuff after he left her the first time, she said that Andrew wouldn't even know how to use the kitchen utensils. It looks like she twists the story to suit her, in my opinion.
 
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It really depends if people click on them. Say someone comes to her website for Sims 2 content and they see Ebay ads for the Sims 2 game discs. If they click that ad, she'll get money for it and if they buy through that ad, she would make money from it too. Targeted ads pay very well. She can have multiple ads on her webpages; video ads, banner ads, overlay ads etc. All of those pay differently but having a top, bottom and two side ads per webpage means she gets paid multiple times for each page view.


The story keeps changing. When she was streaming, she said Andrew cooked for her but when she was packing her stuff after he left her the first time, she said that Andrew wouldn't even know how to use the kitchen utensils. It looks like she twists the story to suit her, in my opinion.
I don’t think she’s actively grifting with the intent to but I don’t know but something is so off putting to me about the donations.

Other than that, the whole shift into I guess a more eco friendly/ green lifestyle after the first separation spending a tit ton on trivial things like reusable food wraps, recycled garbage bags, etc just seems so frivolous to me.

I’m all for recycling etc but I’m not about to drop twice the price of Glad garbage bags for eco friendly garbage bags.
 
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She always seemed to me to be chasing a "viral" channel. I started to notice a pattern, when she was playing Sims, she would start a "Let's play" but after a few episodes if it wasn't doing well in terms of views she would just quit it. I didn't watch her, my niece who stays with me every weekend would watch and she would be so disappointed when she would get interested in a story and then it just ended abruptly. Cindy's reason was "I got bored" or 'I don't like playing the sims anymore". This happened a number of times when videos weren't bringing in good numbers. My niece is 13, I had to have her not watch anymore of her sims vids because she constantly left people up in the air. For the young viewers that is so cruel because they get interested in a story and they look forward to it. I really hope that her younger viewers are not watching now

Then I noticed she was trying all kinds of things to get views and it all seems so staged and scripted. She's trying anything and everything. She carnivore diet, she's keto, she's a witch, she's on weight loss journey, all the while she is testing the waters to see what gets views. It's the reason she doesn't choose one subject to stay on. She's trying to find the one thing that people would relate to that make her VIRAL. It doesn't work like that.

I agree with others on here. It seems awful convenient that after all the donations she got she gets a car and they have money to move. She gets a piercing, she's wearing makeup and doing her hair differently. She's talking tit about Andrew but then she says he comes by to take the dogs out. Then she mentions that people can still send stuff to her po box!

Like the saying goes 'If it doesn't make sense it's usually not true"
 
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How does she go from bragging about how much money she makes online to saying she “should have enough to pay rent this month” as if she’s struggling
 
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I don’t think she’s actively grifting with the intent to but I don’t know but something is so off putting to me about the donations.
It's the sheer amount of it for me. Mentioning multiple times she has just barely enough money to pay her bills, that she spent all the money from the house paying off their debt, that she doesn't have a lot of clothes, saying that she left all her streaming equipment behind/microphone + webcam is crap, mentioning that she needs bookcases for her office but doubts anyone will send those to her, that she is going to get a PO Box just in time for her birthday, dropping that her birthday was coming and then people were asking her a bunch of questions about what she liked/wanted to send her stuff.

I don't know what else to think besides she's fishing for gifts and playing the sympathy card.

She always seemed to me to be chasing a "viral" channel. I started to notice a pattern, when she was playing Sims, she would start a "Let's play" but after a few episodes if it wasn't doing well in terms of views she would just quit it. I didn't watch her, my niece who stays with me every weekend would watch and she would be so disappointed when she would get interested in a story and then it just ended abruptly. Cindy's reason was "I got bored" or 'I don't like playing the sims anymore". This happened a number of times when videos weren't bringing in good numbers. My niece is 13, I had to have her not watch anymore of her sims vids because she constantly left people up in the air. For the young viewers that is so cruel because they get interested in a story and they look forward to it. I really hope that her younger viewers are not watching now

Then I noticed she was trying all kinds of things to get views and it all seems so staged and scripted. She's trying anything and everything. She carnivore diet, she's keto, she's a witch, she's on weight loss journey, all the while she is testing the waters to see what gets views. It's the reason she doesn't choose one subject to stay on. She's trying to find the one thing that people would relate to that make her VIRAL. It doesn't work like that.

I agree with others on here. It seems awful convenient that after all the donations she got she gets a car and they have money to move. She gets a piercing, she's wearing makeup and doing her hair differently. She's talking tit about Andrew but then she says he comes by to take the dogs out. Then she mentions that people can still send stuff to her po box!

Like the saying goes 'If it doesn't make sense it's usually not true"
I noticed that viral chasing too. Cindy is a very smart woman, she knows how Youtube works and how to make it work to her advantage. She made sure to capitalize on every trend she could think of; vlogmas, weight loss, infertility, cleaning, organization, tarot, spirituality and witchy stuff, plants, homemaking/being a tradwife, being an Ebay seller, trying keto/low carb recipes, exercise, self improvement and those are just the trends I noticed from a cursory glance at her thumbnails and titles. It would not surprise me if she saw the attention/money she got for her viral videos and decided she wanted to keep that, no matter what. Being desperate and impulsive is not a great combo. I'm not the only one to notice certain trends when her views dip. As sick as this sounds, people like spectacle and the bigger the spectacle, the more money and attention you get on Youtube. Not everyone wants to be authentic, some people just want money/attention and will do anything to get it.
 
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She always seemed to me to be chasing a "viral" channel. I started to notice a pattern, when she was playing Sims, she would start a "Let's play" but after a few episodes if it wasn't doing well in terms of views she would just quit it. I didn't watch her, my niece who stays with me every weekend would watch and she would be so disappointed when she would get interested in a story and then it just ended abruptly. Cindy's reason was "I got bored" or 'I don't like playing the sims anymore". This happened a number of times when videos weren't bringing in good numbers. My niece is 13, I had to have her not watch anymore of her sims vids because she constantly left people up in the air. For the young viewers that is so cruel because they get interested in a story and they look forward to it. I really hope that her younger viewers are not watching now

Then I noticed she was trying all kinds of things to get views and it all seems so staged and scripted. She's trying anything and everything. She carnivore diet, she's keto, she's a witch, she's on weight loss journey, all the while she is testing the waters to see what gets views. It's the reason she doesn't choose one subject to stay on. She's trying to find the one thing that people would relate to that make her VIRAL. It doesn't work like that.

I agree with others on here. It seems awful convenient that after all the donations she got she gets a car and they have money to move. She gets a piercing, she's wearing makeup and doing her hair differently. She's talking tit about Andrew but then she says he comes by to take the dogs out. Then she mentions that people can still send stuff to her po box!

Like the saying goes 'If it doesn't make sense it's usually not true"
You hit the nail on the coffin.

While a weight loss journey is common for many, an all carnivore diet is not for most people in terms of costs and flexibility.
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Cindy's Livestream Recap:
I am sorry for the length and the general rambleness of this post. She went back to topics multiple times and I tried to combine things to make it easier for people to read. All of this is pretty much verbatim from her mouth.

Info about Breakup, Andrew, Family etc.

- Their house sold really fast, within days. She thinks it is because everyone wants to move to Colorado for weed. She's glad it sold fast because she wanted out. She hated her house, she despised it and she is so much happier now.

- Still hasn't told her family yet. Doesn't want her family to think badly about him. Still protecting him. Still loves him. Doesn't know what she is going to tell them. Most likely going to tell her sister the truth and lie to her brothers and step father. Wait, NOT lie, not tell them the whole truth. "We just couldn't work out or problems." Family does not know she has this channel. Her brothers and step father won't push for the whole truth, but her sister will. Doesn't feel like she can do the trip to see her sister yet. Sister has lots of kids, six kids, two of which Cindy has not met.

- "How does your family think you make money?" They think Cindy has her old job. She never told them any different. She didn't lie, but they never asked. She doesn't like corporate medical coding because it was stressful and if you make a mistake you can cost the hospital a lot of money. BUT she was very good at her job but her heart wasn't in it and she wanted to do something more creative. She would go back if she got canceled on Youtube and couldn't make money on the platform anymore. Is she going to get a job in Arkansas. HELL NO! Youtube is her job. She doesn't plan on Youtube ever stopping being a part of her income. If it did, she would just be a blogger. She is very good at earning money on line and never wants to go back to a 9 to 5 job. If she had to go back to a 9 to 5, she'd go back to medical coding or waitress because she can make a lot of money from waitressing and it doesn't have a lot of responsibility. That's what she looks for in a job.

- Did she ever suspect Andrew was cheating. Yep. She never expected he did anything in real life. Never believed he would to that. Cindy thinks that Andrew knows how bad he screwed up. He denied cheating the whole time. Does Andrew's mom have an opinion on this? She's sure she does but she doesn't know what it is. Will she stay in touch with Andrew's family? She doesn't think so. She doesn't know why she would. Her whole family loved Andrew and adored him. He was the only guy that she ever dated that her dad approved of. Cindy said that Andrew isn't "needlessly cruel."

- Has Andrew contacted her? Yes and she'll tell you about it in the next vlog. Andrew has not received any threats, not any that she knows about. She hates Pizza Hut now. She despises it and hates driving by one. Andrew talked to her about his issues but she says not completely, not truly. It didn't upset her that Andrew was always on his phone when she was vlogging or shopping because he didn't have much to do at the time.

- Gibbons is doing well at Andrew's Mom's house. She has had updates about him. Gibbons has to stay in Colorado. She asked about having another pet but for insurance reasons, it's capped at two. She isn't going to bring Gibbons back when she goes to Colorado because she doesn't want to travel with him across country and she can't have him there.

- Would she ever take Andrew back if he apologized to her? She doesn't think so. She would like to believe she would say no. She wants to say no but she still loves him. She knows of one person he's cheated with, clarification, she suspects that he cheated with her. He hasn't told her. She doesn't know for sure and doesn't care. She thinks that he never intended to tell her, wanted to start over in Arkansas but felt too guilty. She doesn't know if he is still with the other woman, based on the things he told her, she doesn't think so but she doesn't know what she can trust. Was he staying with a girl when he was gone for a month. She suspected it but is not sure.

- Does she feel relief now that she knows her suspicions were right? Yes. She has a lot of relief about everything and it is nice to know the truth about everything that happened. It's nice to not have anxiety that something is going on behind her back. But it also sucks.

- She's pretty sure they are getting divorced. She doesn't know if she wants to file or she is going to let him file. She doesn't know what is going to happen yet. It is still in the very beginning stages. Andrew still has a key to the apartment. She's not going to change the locks.

- Do you think Andrew was threatened by your improvement? It's very complicated. She thinks it contributed to it in a way. Because he feels she is getting better and she doesn't need him and stuff. Did Andrew block her? He got a new number but I guess in a way, yeah.

- During the stream, Andrew emailed her. She couldn't read it right then. She doesn't think he is hoovering, she does that. She can't block him. She knows she has to do it but she still wants to hear what he has to say. She's not great at understand what is toxic or not. She lived in a toxic relationship for a long time and didn't know it was. She explained a lot of what she wanted to say in tomorrow's vlog. He doesn't know she is streaming and doesn't watch her videos because that would mean he would have to face seeing how he made her feel. She's going to read it but doesn't know if she will respond. The Andrew that she thought she knew does not exist. The man she was in love with does not exist. She's relapse on Andrew a couple times. It's hard not to get sucked in by his messages because she still loves him. She wants to talk to him. Whenever he first emailed her, this is not the first time and she'll talk about that in tomorrow's vlog, she thought she could take him back. She goes back and forth on it. She has to stop doing that.

Info about Cindy and her old/new life

- Cindy's streaming equipment, microphone, lights etc. was left behind in Colorado. The rest of their stuff that they couldn't put in their cars got donated to a church or given to various people they knew.

- Cindy spent all the money from the sale of the house on debt and has just enough money to pay her $800 rent this month. She said she should be able to pay her bills with the money from Youtube BUT she's bought tickets for concerts, getting her septum pierced and her ears pierced multiple times. She wants to go back to getting laser hair removal. Doesn't know how much the piercing are going to cost. She is getting a tattoo on her 40th birthday as well. She'll show us what she is planning in her next vlog, if she doesn't forget. She's going to get the tattoo on her forearm because she is going get surgery on her arms and she doesn't want the surgery to distort the tattoo. Her forearm is the ONE place she isn't going to get surgery. If anyone is going to be with her, they are going to have to be into pudge, she self concious now that she has lost weight, getting into a new relationship with someone and being intimate with someone, she is really nervous about that. It's not going to be for a long time. She looks good in clothes but once you get the clothes off "it's a mess." She won't use Tinder. She's had some bad dating site experiences. She would rather meet someone naturally but that is hard for her because she doesn't do anything. She doesn't know what she is going to do. Would she date a subscriber? Yeah, if they were what she was looking for. She doesn't care if they are a subscriber or not. She doesn't think a subscriber would want to date her because they have seen "the crazy" but you never know.

- She's been informed about Zachary Michael's video. Cindy says she doesn't look at or seek out other's thoughts about her. Amberlynn Reid sent Cindy a super chat. "Welcome to Gorl World. Don't let reaction channels bring you down." And Cindy said she's been watching Amber for years. She doesn't care if people react to her. She knew it was going to happen eventually if she got big enough. It means she is important enough to talk about. It helped her get a lot of new subscribers so she guesses it is positive.

- She's going to talk about her date in a vlog, but she isn't ready to date. She has to save something for the vlogs. She has a weigh-in coming next vlog. She lost more weight. She's never been able to stick to anything before and she's lost weight in an unhealthy way before. Goal is 135 because that would mean she isn't overweight anymore. Looked the best at 115 pounds. She has to get skin surgery because she looks like a "floppy piece of tit." Has to get surgery on her stomach, arms and legs.

- Cindy is considering going back to the Sims. She has to play the game and see if she is motivated to make content about it. Thinking about playing other games but in the past people weren't interested if it wasn't the Sims. She doesn't want to make lackluster content. No promises. This is the FIRST time she has considered it.

- After all the tragedy she's had in the last year, the negativity doesn't get to her. She says she blocks the negativity out of her life. She hasn't had the strength to leave her apartment by herself yet.

- Trying to accept the fact that she'll never have a family. Not interested in adoption. Going to be 40 in a month. She could have fertility until 42. Doesn't want to do IVF. Doesn't want to be a foster mom. Doesn't feel capable of doing it. Doesn't want to be responsible for troubled kids.
Right now she has nothing to give emotional in her life, especially to children.

- Has to go back to Colorado to register the car. Doesn't know how she is going to do that. She's thinking about taking his guitars back to him when she goes back to Colorado. She knows she said she was going to sell all his stuff but she's not going to be petty about it. She still loves him and cares about him and she wants him to have the things back.

- She's getting texts from the guy she went out on a date with and says "she needs to deal with that."

- If anyone lives near her, she wants you to reach out to her because she needs friends. Needs some female friends. Sarah says she lives near by and Cindy says send her an email. She would like to be long distance friends with people.

- Going to get a PO Box soon. People want to make her art and send her stuff for her birthday on May 13th. Someone offered her a painting and she would like a raven painting. She was offered several free tarot readings and told them to email her. She going to take classes in tarot, a local shop teaches tarot. She could do a tarot livestream once she learns. What does she still need for her apartment? She needs bookshelves, but she doesn't think anyone is going to mail her one of those. More decor.

- What's her type of guy? Andrew is her type. Hippie, dark curly hair/beard, tall and thin. Personality, spiritual, hippish, gentle, sweet, kind and quiet. Introvert, must love music/live shows, a younger man. Andrew but not a cheater. He's the perfect man for her except for the cheating. She's never going to find someone like that again and is going to be alone forever. He doesn't seem like he's that kind but Cindy knows him deep down and he is. "God, he's fucked up." It's weird but her dad had dark colored hair and a beard. That's what she likes in a man. She has a lot of daddy issues. She has daddy and mommy issues, all the issues.

- Doesn't feel like she can be an inspiration to others. Feels like she is a mess of a person. Hopes she can inspire people that are as messy as her to make progress on themselves and go forward in life.

- She has a bad problem with not being able to give herself credit for the things she's accomplished and she's working on it in therapy. It's hard because if you are told all your life that you aren't good enough, it's hard to believe you are good enough.

- What are the main differences in your personality between how you handled this separation and the last one? She is more accepting of it and less desperate. More willing to put herself first and more willing to do what is best for her.

- If she did go back to Pleasant Sims, the first thing she would do is play The Sims 4 and see how bad it is. Or check out the new expansion pack.

- She's been going to her therapy every week over video call. Her therapist is still in Colorado and she likes her a lot.

- Does the blog help her out with her finances? The Pleasant Sims blog earns her a good amount of income every month. She would be screwed without it. She needs to update things on there and if she gets back into the Sims she will. She doesn't think she'll do daily vlogs ever day but she is going to do as many as she can. She doesn't want to have a Patreon. She doesn't want to be obligated to put out content and doesn't want to take people's money when she feels like she isn't giving them enough content. But she's thinking about it.

- What are her best characteristics? She has no idea. She needs to figure that out. She's an incredibly loyal friend and partner. An incredibly caring and forgiving person, which can be taken advantage of.

- She has done EMDR therapy before and it was incredibly helpful for her. She wants to do it again. She has so much trauma that they have only begun to scratch the surface.

- Life goals now that she is single. It is so hard for her to set goals. She wants to finish her herbalism course, wants to become an amateur herbalist, wants to write a book, these are her main life goals. She wants to write a book about the herbs in her mountains but it is hard right now to focus on her passions because she is still going through a lot of emotional distress. One of her dreams, once she gets to the place where she isn't trying to keep herself from falling apart every second of every day, she wants to go out and start wildcrafting with the herbs that grow natively.

- Has she told her therapist about her vlogging channel. Nope, but she told them about her Sims channel. She knows it is bad not to mention it but she is afraid her therapist will tell her not to do it and she doesn't want to hear that. A kind person can hurt someone badly, and she's struggled with that because she sees things in black and white/extremes. One of the first times she realized she was getting better was when she realized he does love her but still hurt her at the same time. Her therapist told her that she needs to say that he loved her AND hurt her instead of how her thinking was, that he loved her BUT hurt her and how could that be true. Realized that those two things could be true at once. Really was hard for her to get her mind around that. You can love someone and hurt them, she did that.

- How has she been spending her alone time away from Youtube and bureaucracy? That's pretty much it. Or crying, taking bubble baths and trying to soothe herself in various ways, hanging out with her one friend and that's it. Either she's doing Youtube, taking care of mundane things that need taken care of, crying or she's talking to a friend. She thinks it is pretty sad. She has not been working out at all but wants to start back up again. She wants to get back into hooping. All she's been doing lately is keeping herself alive and stable. Would not wish BPD on anyone. It is so hard to deal with and it so hard to recover from. You have to rewire your brain because the pathways were not wired correctly as a child because it was beaten out of you. It is very hard to do as an adult. BPD is hell and is called the most painful mental illness you can have. Your baseline is just pain all the time. She wants to go on a hike but she has a hard time with the still and quiet because that's when the intrusive thoughts come in. She's still in a place where she has to distract herself from the thoughts.

- Has she tried to reach out to him? Yes and she is going to tell the whole story in tomorrow's vlog.

- She was diagnosed in her 30's with BPD. Andrew suspected she had BPD because she was having a hard time with her identity.

- Would she do a fan meetup? No, there are some crazy ass people out there and she wouldn't tell people where she was.

- She has 3 pairs of jeans that fit her and 4 t-shirts. Right now her money situation is sketchy until she gets her Youtube money so she has to hold off spending right now. Shopping vlog time! Pretty soon she won't be able to wear Torrid clothes anymore and she doesn't know where she'll get her clothes after that.

Miscellaneous Stuff

- She has 20k subscribers.

- Needs to get an appointment for Bella and Morty's grooming.

- She was in Arkansas when the tornado came through. It was really close to them and she was scared.

- Her two dogs are named after Sims characters. She wants to get a big dog, a female mastiff and name it Cassandra. She was told to get her therapist to write a letter about an emotional support animal so she could get Gibbons, because emotional support animals are not pets and don't count toward pet limits. She'll consider it.

- She has nervous habits she does like putting on lip balm over and over, messing with her necklace and scratching her neck.

- Did she ever consider doing a personality test on vlog/stream? No, but she is considering it now.

- Does she feel pressure because so many people watch her? No.

- She wants to do witchy videos again in the future, when she is feeling up to it.

- She loves her apartment but needs to do some work on it. Her office is a disaster with boxes everywhere. The last couple days she hasn't got much done at all. Really enjoying making her own space.

- Is she scared to be home alone in her apartment? No, her area is very safe and she has security cameras all around. She doesn't want to listen to true crime anymore because she lives alone and doesn't want to put herself in that headspace.

- Doesn't have her wigs anymore. Never wants to wear them again.

- Cindy wants to read books again, when she feels like it. She has a hard time concentrating on anything right now. She's planning on reading The Body Keeps the Score.

- She hasn't been taking her electrolytes or eating enough. She did a 56 hour fast and has eaten very little.

- She smokes marijuana rarely and it makes her paranoid, so she only smokes a little bit. The only medicine she takes is shrooms. She has someone who has offered to help her with DMT but she doesn't know if she wants to or not.

- She married her first husband at 17. He was a punk rocker and still plays in a band to this day. He cheated on her throughout the whole relationship. They were together 5 years, but actually together a year before he ran off with the landlord's girlfriend and ghosted her. She had to get the court to find him so she could divorce him and marry Andrew. Her first husband was really abusive and isolating, she lost all her friends, lost touch with herself and everyone she knew. BPD also makes it hard to have friends because it makes you split on people but she doesn't do that anymore. She has a thing for people who make her life chaotic and she can't help herself.

- She'll never have a discord again.

- Won't dye her hair because it is fragile but might dye it with Henna. Will do a vlog on it if she does.

- She wants to go full goth. Her true style is dark gypsy. Mixture of hippie and goth. Grunge style. Goblincore is her style.

- She doesn't like the idea of making and selling products. She doesn't like the idea of shipping things. When she had her Ebay store, she didn't like that. She didn't like shipping or wrapping stuff.

- Cindy dropped out of High School in 11th grade and got her GED in her 20's. Her degree is in Health Information Technology.
Did she ever mention an arm surgery? Not that she has to disclose that she’s having one or why she needs it but first time I’ve heard of it today.
 
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Did she ever mention an arm surgery? Not that she has to disclose that she’s having one or why she needs it but first time I’ve heard of it today.
Did she ever mention she was going to get surgeries to correct her loose skin? Maybe once or twice during her weigh ins, causally mentioning that she'll probably need to have skin removed on her stomach. Honestly, the "I'm going to get surgery on my whole body" is new and it makes me wonder just how much money she has lying around that she can start talking about doing that. Cosmetic surgery is not cheap.
 
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Did she ever mention she was going to get surgeries to correct her loose skin? Maybe once or twice during her weigh ins, causally mentioning that she'll probably need to have skin removed on her stomach. Honestly, the "I'm going to get surgery on my whole body" is new and it makes me wonder just how much money she has lying around that she can start talking about doing that. Cosmetic surgery is not cheap.
That would make sense in terms of not getting a tattoo there given skin would be removed from the surgery (also like aside from the face/ neck/ hands, forearms are probably the most visible on an everyday basis versus thighs/ upper arms) Thanks!
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She always seemed to me to be chasing a "viral" channel. I started to notice a pattern, when she was playing Sims, she would start a "Let's play" but after a few episodes if it wasn't doing well in terms of views she would just quit it. I didn't watch her, my niece who stays with me every weekend would watch and she would be so disappointed when she would get interested in a story and then it just ended abruptly. Cindy's reason was "I got bored" or 'I don't like playing the sims anymore". This happened a number of times when videos weren't bringing in good numbers. My niece is 13, I had to have her not watch anymore of her sims vids because she constantly left people up in the air. For the young viewers that is so cruel because they get interested in a story and they look forward to it. I really hope that her younger viewers are not watching now

Then I noticed she was trying all kinds of things to get views and it all seems so staged and scripted. She's trying anything and everything. She carnivore diet, she's keto, she's a witch, she's on weight loss journey, all the while she is testing the waters to see what gets views. It's the reason she doesn't choose one subject to stay on. She's trying to find the one thing that people would relate to that make her VIRAL. It doesn't work like that.

I agree with others on here. It seems awful convenient that after all the donations she got she gets a car and they have money to move. She gets a piercing, she's wearing makeup and doing her hair differently. She's talking tit about Andrew but then she says he comes by to take the dogs out. Then she mentions that people can still send stuff to her po box!

Like the saying goes 'If it doesn't make sense it's usually not true"
Hopefully she picks a lane if she does get back into the Sims, either Sims 2 v 3 v 4 videos or Sims 2 tutorial videos or lets plays. I can’t see her doing any CAS/ build videos so Sims 2, her speciality, seems to be best fit right now.
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She always seemed to me to be chasing a "viral" channel. I started to notice a pattern, when she was playing Sims, she would start a "Let's play" but after a few episodes if it wasn't doing well in terms of views she would just quit it. I didn't watch her, my niece who stays with me every weekend would watch and she would be so disappointed when she would get interested in a story and then it just ended abruptly. Cindy's reason was "I got bored" or 'I don't like playing the sims anymore". This happened a number of times when videos weren't bringing in good numbers. My niece is 13, I had to have her not watch anymore of her sims vids because she constantly left people up in the air. For the young viewers that is so cruel because they get interested in a story and they look forward to it. I really hope that her younger viewers are not watching now

Then I noticed she was trying all kinds of things to get views and it all seems so staged and scripted. She's trying anything and everything. She carnivore diet, she's keto, she's a witch, she's on weight loss journey, all the while she is testing the waters to see what gets views. It's the reason she doesn't choose one subject to stay on. She's trying to find the one thing that people would relate to that make her VIRAL. It doesn't work like that.

I agree with others on here. It seems awful convenient that after all the donations she got she gets a car and they have money to move. She gets a piercing, she's wearing makeup and doing her hair differently. She's talking tit about Andrew but then she says he comes by to take the dogs out. Then she mentions that people can still send stuff to her po box!

Like the saying goes 'If it doesn't make sense it's usually not true"
Would highly recommend the Englishsimmer. Her LPs/ content have definitely improved in constrast to other big Sims YTs. Also if your niece is learning French in school, I have tons of french Sims YTs to recommend.
 
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Their house sold really fast, within days
She literally had her final break up 2 days ago? Did they put the house on the market before leaving CO? She made it seem like leaving was an impulsive "let's do it this afternoon" decision. When did they have the time to put her house on the market?
Would not wish BPD on anyone. It is so hard to deal with and it so hard to recover from
From what I've read (and I did a lot of research, I suspect my mom has BPD and me ex had it) - you can't recover from BPD, but you can manage it. If you don't learn to manage it (my mom hasn't managed it), it just gets worse as you grow older.

Also - she's really irresponsible with her money and doesn't want any kind of responsibility with a real job. Shaking my head - that's what I really dislike about some YouTubers.
I've never dealt with animals in an apartment but not being able to get Gibbons for "insurance purposes" seems odd to me,
When I lived in the US, finding an apartment that allowed pets was hard, and most places that allowed pets charged extra and sometimes put a cap on the number of pets you could have, usually 2, sometimes 1. That being said, it always irked me when I'd see ads looking for a home for a pet because the owner was moving into a nice apartment that didn't allow pets. Well, why did you rent that apartment then? Ugh. But I agree, after hearing Gibbons has health issues, I think leaving him behind was calculated (I always thought Gibbons was a cat though, so leaving him behind kinda made sense because of the misconception that cats can't travel, though my two cats have moved with me everywhere I've gone).
 
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I'm curious, those of you who think it's a grift, do you think it started with the first "he left me" video? Do you think Andrew is in on it? Because if those were fake tears, then she deserves an Oscar. I honestly can't determine what is and isn't true anymore.
 
I'm curious, those of you who think it's a grift, do you think it started with the first "he left me" video? Do you think Andrew is in on it? Because if those were fake tears, then she deserves an Oscar. I honestly can't determine what is and isn't true anymore.
Yes, I've always had my suspicions since then. Some people really are good actors. I'm suspicious of everyone who has a lot of drama in their lives and then records it for public consumption. I'm sure I posted on the Simmers thread I was suspicious.
 
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I think that first video showed her how much money her "tragedy" could make her and she liked that. I don't think she's lying, but she may be exagerating some things for some quick cash. Yesterday's livestream was easy money - on donations after the livestream ended, she made about 85 dollars. I don't know if there's a way to check those made during without having to watch the whole video again 😅
 
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I'm curious, those of you who think it's a grift, do you think it started with the first "he left me" video? Do you think Andrew is in on it? Because if those were fake tears, then she deserves an Oscar. I honestly can't determine what is and isn't true anymore.
Same here. I’m skeptical about some stuff because capitalizing off of your hardships makes you seem insincere. And things like mentioning how she should be able to make rent, doing lives with no plans in mind, always having her buy me a coffee in her description seems a bit off.

I do think some people are reading way too far into stuff though. Like the whole thing about Andrew cooking but then her saying he wouldn’t know what to do with the kitchen stuff if she left it. People are treating it as a gotcha! moment, but I saw it as her just talking tit because she was upset. (Or thought that his cooking was like my ex’s, he only “cooked” frozen or pre-made food, even him making rice involved buying the stuff you microwave for a few minutes. But I digress)

I’m not buying everything she’s selling, but I don’t believe this is some elaborate scheme planned on their ends. My guess is that the truth is somewhere in between.
 
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