Kylie Flavell #4 Purloining the Patreon Purse

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Hello Jerry, I have seen K wearing a mask. Here she is approximately 3 mins 50 seconds in, near the main post office in Florence wearing one. The occasions are rare however. But maybe masks are incompatible with a cinematic life, unless attending a ball on the Grand Canal during Carnevale .
i guess she lost the “habit”.

Who buys 500 envelopes, to send around the world, without checking first with the post office ?

I guess, someone who wants to use courier prices to show a comparison, so that figure sticks in the heads of her Patreons. Nice trick.

She missed an opportunity to hustle up the Italian Poste(maybe free postage for a placement ad); instead she calls them, “the unreliable Italian post.”

She doesn’t, though, miss the chance to tell the clerk that “Yes, it’s quite a lot of work”. Just so we know.

I had forgotten, as well, how well dressed she is; and just for a walk to the post office ! This lady has money and shows it off ! While asking for money to keep her channel running.

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Who buys 500 envelopes, to send around the world, without checking first with the post office ?
Well, I did notice, in my own dealings with her, that she could be a little ditsy at times. Although I never received my letter from her, and I concede the benefit of the doubt there, as sometimes it can be a hit and miss with Qatar, I did think it was a big-hearted gesture that she hadn't thought through properly, though I wondered about tax relief. Irrespective of possible tax concessions, it must have been very time-consuming.
 
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Well, I did notice, in my own dealings with her, that she could be a little ditsy at times. Although I never received my letter from her, and I concede the benefit of the doubt there, as sometimes it can be a hit and miss with Qatar, I did think it was a big-hearted gesture that she hadn't thought through properly, though I wondered about tax relief. Irrespective of possible tax concessions, it must have been very time-consuming.
What made you become a Patreon of KyLIE ?
 
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What made you become a Patreon of KyLIE ?
Wow, @Jerry, you are asking me a question that will elicit a personal response. I am getting the vibe that my digressions are a distraction. Apologies to those who are losing patience with me.

To keep it ‘on the topic’, maybe it will serve as a case study on why someone should become a Patreon of Kylie. I don’t know how ‘typical’ I am. A little before Christmas 2020, I decided to subscribe as a Patreon, and I had been watching Kylie’s videos since the late summer of that year. I had been stuck in Qatar since early January 2020, not being able to see friends, family, things or people I care about. Although I have exciting work, working here is ‘psychologically difficult’. One needs to travel every three to four months for one’s sanity. Every year, pre-Covid, I made pilgrimages to my favourite places … Venice, Florence, Paris, the Côte d’Azur, London and Vienna. As an art historian and specialist in eighteenth-century Venetian art, I travel for the culture. I felt deprived after almost a year in lockdown. It was also frustrating as I had to decline a scholarship that would have taken me to Florence, Rome and Arezzo. I had always wanted to visit Arezzo after watching La Vita è Bella. I was dreading Christmas in Doha. Although some effort is made in the international hotels &c to hold celebrations for ex-pats, as we make up a large percentage of the population. It simply isn’t the same. So, perhaps you can begin to imagine why the opening five minutes or so of this video (from 1 min. 41 seconds to 4:14) seduced me at a time when I was feeling particularly isolated. .

Briefly stated, I wanted to do something nice for somebody, and so I became a Patreon. I was also emotionally hijacked when Kylie prepared one of her post-Christmas videos on love with a discussion developing on Instagram. It caught me off-guard and hit me in the solar plexus. I revealed, though quickly deleted, how I had lost my husband to Acute Myeloid Leukaemia. Though not before Kylie and several people had read it.
I had been in a May to December relationship and my husband was considerably older than me. He had gone into remission in 2014, but the cancer returned in 2017, and I spent two frantic months flying between Qatar and the UK. I was with my husband at the moment of death, which was painful and horrific. He no longer recognised me on the last morning of his life, but just 25 minutes before he died, he opened his eyes, and they locked with mine. He could not speak but waved at me as though he were taking a train or a plane for a very long journey, and I waved back. His breathing altered, becoming increasingly sporadic, and 25 minutes later, he gasped his last breath. It was the most special farewell of my life. It touched Kylie’s heart and as well as the hearts of some of her Insta followers, and she sent me the sweetest email. I mailed Kylie a modest gift of a book I had recommended, together with a pair of Richard Ginori, Oriente Italiano espresso cups. Ginori is one of my favourite Italian porcelain manufactories, and I adore the shop in Firenze. See 2 mins 46


I became disenchanted with it all when there seemed to be this concentration on the renovations, love, marriage &c. Maybe I lost empathy because it didn’t resonate with me. I did get tired of the sycophantic followers. I also felt that Kylie was beginning to cater mainly to her North American fans (I think most followers must be North American). I don’t entirely feel good about myself for coming onto this thread, as I don’t want to gratuitously hurt people or be overly critical of their endeavours. I try to be as measured as I can for the most part.

Two disclaimers: Kylie genuinely touched my heart, and that is why I did what I did. She has not extorted money from me, and I didn’t offer her anything I could not afford to give. When her creative output became tired, I stopped. I am not a vulnerable old lady who was tricked or deceived in any way. No two bereavements are the same but it took me approx 3 years to process my loss and when I felt ready to move on COVID happened.

Second, I am not a fan of holocaust movies (too tragic), but there are two moments IMHO in La Vita è Bella which are so poignant. This is one …


So, with a few customary Pliny digressions, there you have it @Jerry!
 
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Wow, @Jerry, you are asking me a question that will elicit a personal response. I am getting the vibe that my digressions are a distraction. Apologies to those who are losing patience with me.

To keep it ‘on the topic’, maybe it will serve as a case study on why someone should become a Patreon of Kylie. I don’t know how ‘typical’ I am. A little before Christmas 2020, I decided to subscribe as a Patreon, and I had been watching Kylie’s videos since the late summer of that year. I had been stuck in Qatar since early January 2020, not being able to see friends, family, things or people I care about. Although I have exciting work, working here is ‘psychologically difficult’. One needs to travel every three to four months for one’s sanity. Every year, pre-Covid, I made pilgrimages to my favourite places … Venice, Florence, Paris, the Côte d’Azur, London and Vienna. As an art historian and specialist in eighteenth-century Venetian art, I travel for the culture. I felt deprived after almost a year in lockdown. It was also frustrating as I had to decline a scholarship that would have taken me to Florence, Rome and Arezzo. I had always wanted to visit Arezzo after watching La Vita è Bella. I was dreading Christmas in Doha. Although some effort is made in the international hotels &c to hold celebrations for ex-pats, as we make up a large percentage of the population. It simply isn’t the same. So, perhaps you can begin to imagine why the opening five minutes or so of this video (from 1 min. 41 seconds to 4:14) seduced me at a time when I was feeling particularly isolated. .

Briefly stated, I wanted to do something nice for somebody, and so I became a Patreon. I was also emotionally hijacked when Kylie prepared one of her post-Christmas videos on love with a discussion developing on Instagram. It caught me off-guard and hit me in the solar plexus. I revealed, though quickly deleted, how I had lost my husband to Acute Myeloid Leukaemia. Though not before Kylie and several people had read it.
I had been in a May to December relationship and my husband was considerably older than me. He had gone into remission in 2014, but the cancer returned in 2017, and I spent two frantic months flying between Qatar and the UK. I was with my husband at the moment of death, which was painful and horrific. He no longer recognised me on the last morning of his life, but just 25 minutes before he died, he opened his eyes, and they locked with mine. He could not speak but waved at me as though he were taking a train or a plane for a very long journey, and I waved back. His breathing altered, becoming increasingly sporadic, and 25 minutes later, he gasped his last breath. It was the most special farewell of my life. It touched Kylie’s heart and as well as the hearts of some of her Insta followers, and she sent me the sweetest email. I mailed Kylie a modest gift of a book I had recommended, together with a pair of Richard Ginori, Oriente Italiano espresso cups. Ginori is one of my favourite Italian porcelain manufactories, and I adore the shop in Firenze. See 2 mins 46


I became disenchanted with it all when there seemed to be this concentration on the renovations, love, marriage &c. Maybe I lost empathy because it didn’t resonate with me. I did get tired of the sycophantic followers. I also felt that Kylie was beginning to cater mainly to her North American fans (I think most followers must be North American). I don’t entirely feel good about myself for coming onto this thread, as I don’t want to gratuitously hurt people or be overly critical of their endeavours. I try to be as measured as I can for the most part.

Two disclaimers: Kylie genuinely touched my heart, and that is why I did what I did. She has not extorted money from me, and I didn’t offer her anything I could not afford to give. When her creative output became tired, I stopped. I am not a vulnerable old lady who was tricked or deceived in any way. No two bereavements are the same but it took me approx 3 years to process my loss and when I felt ready to move on COVID happened.

Second, I am not a fan of holocaust movies (too tragic), but there are two moments IMHO in La Vita è Bella which are so poignant. This is one …


So, with a few customary Pliny digressions, there you have it @Jerry!
I don’t question, at all, your perspective, which is valid.

This forum finds all manner of perspectives and expressions. I was curious as to what it is that drew you in.

I have not felt that there is ANY cruelty here; really honest opinions, YES.

I never saw her as an artist, she changed her “colours” every week. Con artist, yes. During my very first interaction with her, I told her she was “enitled”, so my perspective is very different.

I’m sure every commentator here has their own personal reasons for the perspective they have.
 
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I don’t question, at all, your perspective, which is valid.

This forum finds all manner of perspectives and expressions. I was curious as to what it is that drew you in.

I have not felt that there is ANY cruelty here; really honest opinions, YES.

I never saw her as an artist, she changed her “colours” every week. Con artist, yes. During my very first interaction with her, I told her she was “enitled”, so my perspective is very different.

I’m sure every commentator here has their own personal reasons for the perspective they have.
Well I gave you my honest and heartfelt answer, Jerry.
 
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We get peaches tomorrow.... The 12 episode Tuscany series seems to be forgotten about completely. Or maybe she will upload them in November...
I wonder if she will show herself and her girlfriends (she had posted last week she was making it for a girlie outing) eating it at the end?
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We get peaches tomorrow.... The 12 episode Tuscany series seems to be forgotten about completely. Or maybe she will upload them in November...
I wonder if she will show herself and her girlfriends (she had posted last week she was making it for a girlie outing) eating it at the end?
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I don't get why she has such a random upload schedule, most full time youtubers have a consistent upload day and time
 
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“Summer roasted”; that’s a new one for me.

Sounds like summer roasted cheesecake would be summer sour and gone bad !!

I just threw out cream cheese that went bad in the fridge !
 
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Yeah it def doesn't sound appetizing to me when put that way.

And @emm yeah, it is odd about the various times. That is if she really uploads at that hour.
 
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Peach as a cheesecake flavor ? How random. But then again she has oversold the ricotta cake.
 
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Hello Jerry, I have seen K wearing a mask. Here she is approximately 3 mins 50 seconds in, near the main post office in Florence wearing one. The occasions are rare however. But maybe masks are incompatible with a cinematic life, unless attending a ball on the Grand Canal during Carnevale .
She aged herself in this video!! She says she’s been doing this for 20 years, and since the claim is she’s 29’ she started when she was 9????😆😆😆 Oh Kylie, I guess it’s hard keeping track of all the lies spoon-fed to ignorant, adoring fans.
 
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Isn’t it really funny how KyLIE Fridays are on our radar and we even know what time she might release this week’s episode.

I’ve found myself saying, “the week has gone by fast, it’s time for another video to watch” !

I know others have mused that we are spending WAY too much time on this and KyLIE, I’m sure, would be the first to agree !

Maybe the answer lies in this, knowing that KyLIE would wish us gone was the original impetus for us joining forces here.

Once here, we discovered other Italophiles who like to set the record straight from our common sense, sensibilities, aspirations and direct experiences of Italy. Plus everything else we talk about too !

Where else could I talk about the sublimity of Italy, as well as the absurdities, such as today when we had lunch and chose a table with room around us, given Covid, only to have seated, practically on top of us, a group of six parents and children and when I asked the manager if he could maintain space for our safety, replied that they have a rule that groups with kids get to sit near the indoor playground. That took precedence over the pandemic ! We moved.

So, another Friday in Italy; what profundities does she have in store for us today ?!
 
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I saw a couple of people in her YT comments asked why no summery travel videos.
Instead we get Kylie cooped up in the kitchen or buying junker cars.
Bets on how often she will narrow her eyes and bite her lip while she checks on the cheesecake baking? Lol
 
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She aged herself in this video!! She says she’s been doing this for 20 years, and since the claim is she’s 29’ she started when she was 9????😆😆😆 Oh Kylie, I guess it’s hard keeping track of all the lies spoon-fed to ignorant, adoring fans.
At about 12:50 in this video, she mentions she has “only a handful of” top level patrons; well, if it is only 5 patrons out of 800, @ €800 per month, that’s €4,000 per month !

Not bad for a few small tins of olive oil sent through the mail.
 
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I saw a couple of people in her YT comments asked why no summery travel videos.
Instead we get Kylie cooped up in the kitchen or buying junker cars.
Bets on how often she will narrow her eyes and bite her lip while she checks on the cheesecake baking? Lol
Guilty 😂 one of them was me, waiting to see if she deletes me again.
 
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Wow, @Jerry, you are asking me a question that will elicit a personal response. I am getting the vibe that my digressions are a distraction. Apologies to those who are losing patience with me.

To keep it ‘on the topic’, maybe it will serve as a case study on why someone should become a Patreon of Kylie. I don’t know how ‘typical’ I am. A little before Christmas 2020, I decided to subscribe as a Patreon, and I had been watching Kylie’s videos since the late summer of that year. I had been stuck in Qatar since early January 2020, not being able to see friends, family, things or people I care about. Although I have exciting work, working here is ‘psychologically difficult’. One needs to travel every three to four months for one’s sanity. Every year, pre-Covid, I made pilgrimages to my favourite places … Venice, Florence, Paris, the Côte d’Azur, London and Vienna. As an art historian and specialist in eighteenth-century Venetian art, I travel for the culture. I felt deprived after almost a year in lockdown. It was also frustrating as I had to decline a scholarship that would have taken me to Florence, Rome and Arezzo. I had always wanted to visit Arezzo after watching La Vita è Bella. I was dreading Christmas in Doha. Although some effort is made in the international hotels &c to hold celebrations for ex-pats, as we make up a large percentage of the population. It simply isn’t the same. So, perhaps you can begin to imagine why the opening five minutes or so of this video (from 1 min. 41 seconds to 4:14) seduced me at a time when I was feeling particularly isolated. .

Briefly stated, I wanted to do something nice for somebody, and so I became a Patreon. I was also emotionally hijacked when Kylie prepared one of her post-Christmas videos on love with a discussion developing on Instagram. It caught me off-guard and hit me in the solar plexus. I revealed, though quickly deleted, how I had lost my husband to Acute Myeloid Leukaemia. Though not before Kylie and several people had read it.
I had been in a May to December relationship and my husband was considerably older than me. He had gone into remission in 2014, but the cancer returned in 2017, and I spent two frantic months flying between Qatar and the UK. I was with my husband at the moment of death, which was painful and horrific. He no longer recognised me on the last morning of his life, but just 25 minutes before he died, he opened his eyes, and they locked with mine. He could not speak but waved at me as though he were taking a train or a plane for a very long journey, and I waved back. His breathing altered, becoming increasingly sporadic, and 25 minutes later, he gasped his last breath. It was the most special farewell of my life. It touched Kylie’s heart and as well as the hearts of some of her Insta followers, and she sent me the sweetest email. I mailed Kylie a modest gift of a book I had recommended, together with a pair of Richard Ginori, Oriente Italiano espresso cups. Ginori is one of my favourite Italian porcelain manufactories, and I adore the shop in Firenze. See 2 mins 46


I became disenchanted with it all when there seemed to be this concentration on the renovations, love, marriage &c. Maybe I lost empathy because it didn’t resonate with me. I did get tired of the sycophantic followers. I also felt that Kylie was beginning to cater mainly to her North American fans (I think most followers must be North American). I don’t entirely feel good about myself for coming onto this thread, as I don’t want to gratuitously hurt people or be overly critical of their endeavours. I try to be as measured as I can for the most part.

Two disclaimers: Kylie genuinely touched my heart, and that is why I did what I did. She has not extorted money from me, and I didn’t offer her anything I could not afford to give. When her creative output became tired, I stopped. I am not a vulnerable old lady who was tricked or deceived in any way. No two bereavements are the same but it took me approx 3 years to process my loss and when I felt ready to move on COVID happened.

Second, I am not a fan of holocaust movies (too tragic), but there are two moments IMHO in La Vita è Bella which are so poignant. This is one …


So, with a few customary Pliny digressions, there you have it @Jerry!
That’s a very special post @PlinyinTorquay Thank-you for sharing such a heart rending experience 💜 You are a highly valued member of this group and have added immeasurably to the interest and depth of discussion about all things Italian, artistic and cultural. All of us appreciate our digressions, often more interesting than the K subject!
 
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I saw a couple of people in her YT comments asked why no summery travel videos.
Instead we get Kylie cooped up in the kitchen or buying junker cars.
Bets on how often she will narrow her eyes and bite her lip while she checks on the cheesecake baking? Lol
And lean over, strategically, as she checks the oven or the sun or whatever she is cooking with !

I don’t know about anyone else, but the thought of eating cheesecake on a hot summer day does not appeal.

The peaches I will take !
 
We get peaches tomorrow.... The 12 episode Tuscany series seems to be forgotten about completely. Or maybe she will upload them in November...
I wonder if she will show herself and her girlfriends (she had posted last week she was making it for a girlie outing) eating it at the end?
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She can’t help the pretension @Denise0211 🙈 Not just “uploaded” or “posted” but “premiering” on her YouTube channel as if it’s a major feature film😅

“Summer roasted” sounds most unappealing @Jerry! And a cheesecake on a hot day is not appetising....
 
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