It shouldn't be. One person should not be able to "dictate" an entire thread..And the Jeremy Clarkson thread will be locked in 3.2.1....!
It shouldn't be. One person should not be able to "dictate" an entire thread..And the Jeremy Clarkson thread will be locked in 3.2.1....!
I'm not wishing to dictate to anyone.It shouldn't be. One person should not be able to "dictate" an entire thread..
I could be wrong, but I think this was said in jest.It shouldn't be. One person should not be able to "dictate" an entire thread..
Oops, I realise that now.I could be wrong, but I think this was said in jest.
Of course, I am ignorant, but you know what they say ? Ignorance is bliss.Jeremy clarkson is willingly contracted to write an editorial with a racist, hate speech, misogynistic tabloid newspaper. I will indeed tar him with the same brush. Those who wish to distance themselves from this kind of behaviour and opinions do not associate with this kind of publication. JC is part of the media, he has a wide reach and a platform which he is choosing to be part of the gutter press. He should be called out on his choices.
@HairyWeeTerrier
I feel a bit sorry for you in some ways, as ignorance is always a pity. It is the case that the wealthy (mostly white) western world govern the income of poorer countries. To keep cost low to generate huge profits leads to desperate measures within the countries to keep up mass production. There are so many examples of this, Shein, sugar production to name only 2 which have been in the media recently where the working conditions are awful because the entire economy is reliant on the income from the U.K./US and they have no power to make internal changes or improve legislation because no one really cares about them, they just want the profits and products. People do indeed live in countries where everyone is seen as commodity, but that is driven by the wealthy countries who use these workforces. It was interesting to see you making it sound like it was a fair choice of a country in the Far East.
Countries who commit atrocities against their own citizens is obviously not always racism though is it, why would you think that? Iām not sure what you mean by this? I donāt really understand how you are linking those together, but anyway. It is often driven by money, and power. Our own country tore through most of the world gathering up peoples precious history, enslaving, stealing and killing and we are still seeing the fall out of the damage we did in many places, including Africa.
No one is mixed race, there is only 1 race in the world and it is the human race. It is someoneās ethnicity and their features that differ based on your ancestry and origins.
Going to London and seeing black waiters once and cutting your friend off for not liking them doesnāt give you a āIām not a racistā badge of honour because you did one decent thing once
Think Iām getting mixed up, I quoted the wrong post should have gone to the person who thought you were serious.Oops, I realise that now.
No probs.Of course, I am ignorant, but you know what they say ? Ignorance is bliss.
Think Iām getting mixed up, I quoted the wrong post should have gone to the person who thought you were serious.
Am I?You're coming across as extremely unpleasant in your posts. Just saying.
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It was always about the Sun.This thread has very quickly turned from being about Jeremy Clarkson to being about The Sun.
What's racism got to do with it?Itās not really up to white people to decide what is or isnāt racism and I shall leave that there
The comment amount hating Meghan "on a cellular level" came across as a bit dodgy from a race point of view.What's racism got to do with it?
I haven't a clue what you're referring to (in particular).Though I suspect it to be the type which for at least the past five years, has been peddling these accusations against Asian women (in particular).
Go on then. I strongly suspect you have none.I would supply the the numerous relevant citations.
But it would be sadly be of little use.
As you would not read them, for fear of an original thought entering your head.
You are clearly more intent on signalling your virtue, than actually possessing any.
My original post and the subsequent personal attacks on me were originally posted in the Harry and Meghan thread. One of the moderators moved them to this thread.I haven't a clue what you're referring to (in particular).
Go on then. I strongly suspect you have none.
But this thread is about Clarkson, so if you're only here to berate Meghan & Harry then I don't see the point in continuing this discussion.
Itās a bit racist to say Far East. Didnāt they mention that in your Critical Race Theory courses and/or YouTube videos? Shame on you for using such an antiquated Eurocentric term and then lecturing others about their racism. Youāre clearly not quite pure enough in your thinking yet so off with your own āIām not a racistā badge and off you go to the gulags for a bit of re-education.Jeremy clarkson is willingly contracted to write an editorial with a racist, hate speech, misogynistic tabloid newspaper. I will indeed tar him with the same brush. Those who wish to distance themselves from this kind of behaviour and opinions do not associate with this kind of publication. JC is part of the media, he has a wide reach and a platform which he is choosing to be part of the gutter press. He should be called out on his choices.
@HairyWeeTerrier
I feel a bit sorry for you in some ways, as ignorance is always a pity. It is the case that the wealthy (mostly white) western world govern the income of poorer countries. To keep cost low to generate huge profits leads to desperate measures within the countries to keep up mass production. There are so many examples of this, Shein, sugar production to name only 2 which have been in the media recently where the working conditions are awful because the entire economy is reliant on the income from the U.K./US and they have no power to make internal changes or improve legislation because no one really cares about them, they just want the profits and products. People do indeed live in countries where everyone is seen as commodity, but that is driven by the wealthy countries who use these workforces. It was interesting to see you making it sound like it was a fair choice of a country in the Far East.
Countries who commit atrocities against their own citizens is obviously not always racism though is it, why would you think that? Iām not sure what you mean by this? I donāt really understand how you are linking those together, but anyway. It is often driven by money, and power. Our own country tore through most of the world gathering up peoples precious history, enslaving, stealing and killing and we are still seeing the fall out of the damage we did in many places, including Africa.
No one is mixed race, there is only 1 race in the world and it is the human race. It is someoneās ethnicity and their features that differ based on your ancestry and origins.
Going to London and seeing black waiters once and cutting your friend off for not liking them doesnāt give you a āIām not a racistā badge of honour because you did one decent thing once
Was this to me about the Far East? As I was responding to the original poster who mentioned this description in their post to me, I referenced their post back to themItās a bit racist to say Far East. Didnāt they mention that in your Critical Race Theory courses and/or YouTube videos? Shame on you for using such an antiquated Eurocentric term and then lecturing others about their racism. Youāre clearly not quite pure enough in your thinking yet so off with your own āIām not a racistā badge and off you go to the gulags for a bit of re-education.
Oh yeah, Clarkson - paid to be controversial, scored another hit I guess, and all forgotten about by this time next week. Whether or not anyone thinks heās a misogynist is purely subjective, and the way that word is used gives it less and less meaning anyway. The most annoying thing is that heās given the Harkles a bit more ammunition about how everyone hates her.
I was the one who used the term āFar Eastā I am 74, so am not quite up to speed about what it is acceptable to say. I had absolutely no idea that it was now a derogatory term. If I have offended anyone, then I am very sorry. Also, the word āEurocentricā is one I have never heard before, I have had to Google it.Itās a bit racist to say Far East. Didnāt they mention that in your Critical Race Theory courses and/or YouTube videos? Shame on you for using such an antiquated Eurocentric term and then lecturing others about their racism. Youāre clearly not quite pure enough in your thinking yet so off with your own āIām not a racistā badge and off you go to the gulags for a bit of re-education.
Oh yeah, Clarkson - paid to be controversial, scored another hit I guess, and all forgotten about by this time next week. Whether or not anyone thinks heās a misogynist is purely subjective, and the way that word is used gives it less and less meaning anyway. The most annoying thing is that heās given the Harkles a bit more ammunition about how everyone hates her.
I think it is patently obvious that we are talking about Clarkson because of his comments about Meghan Markle. So wind your neck in.Was this to me about the Far East? As I was responding to the original poster who mentioned this description in their post to me, I referenced their post back to them
This is a thread about Clarkson, not H&M they have their own thread.
It's perfectly acceptable to say Far East - it's a geographical location, not a person or a race/ethnicity, I can't imagine under what circumstances that would be a racist term? I also can't see what on Earth the use of the term Far East has got to do with whether it's OK to like Jeremy Clarkson or not. Who remembers that time he did the Top Gear special in Vietnam (if I remember correctly) where he did a joke about the bridge, which the turned out to be a racist term (which I also can't remember), that most people had never heard or known about, but was enough to get him shitloads of press, and got more people to watch the episode just to see that scene... same as the numberplate he put on his car in Argentina, which was offensive to some local people. Again, he know exactly what he's doing when he says/writes what he does. As does, for example, Ricky Gervais when he roasts celebs during his Golden Globes speeches, or when he writes songs about disabled people, or Native Americans, under the guise of being David Brent. They know how to appeal to the public, that's their job - for whatever the reason is for offensiveness or rudeness being popular, that's far bigger an issue to resolve than getting an apology from Clarkson.I was the one who used the term āFar Eastā I am 74, so am not quite up to speed about what it is acceptable to say.
I depends whose cells.The comment amount hating Meghan "on a cellular level" came across as a bit dodgy from a race point of view.
This sort of thing...I haven't a clue what you're referring to (in particular).
Go on then. I strongly suspect you have none.
But this thread is about Clarkson, so if you're only here to berate Meghan & Harry then I don't see the point in continuing this discussion.
You donāt need to apologise for anything and I for one am completely unoffended. I like JC too, I will continue to like him, and I find the endless nitpicking and blathering on about perceived racism, sexism and every other -ism under the sun where none exists absolutely ridiculous. My post about the āFar Eastā was not intended to be taken seriously (although I have absolutely been accused of racism in my academic day job for using that term). I was taking the piss of that type of authoritarian idiocy where posters on this thread have accused others of racism and misogyny based on absolutely duck-all, and the insanity of identity politics in which you can never be politically correct enough.I was the one who used the term āFar Eastā I am 74, so am not quite up to speed about what it is acceptable to say. I had absolutely no idea that it was now a derogatory term. If I have offended anyone, then I am very sorry. Also, the word āEurocentricā is one I have never heard before, I have had to Google it.
So I shall hang my head in shame, and admit that I still like Jeremy Clarkson, on the whole. So I must be a racist, a misogynist, and no doubt everything else that is described by the latest buzzword. But if I donāt like Meghan and Harry, I am entitled to say it without being accused of racism or misogyny. Because it is utter *******.
Is it still okay to say āThe Westā or the āWestern Worldā. Asking for a friend.
I think it is patently obvious that we are talking about Clarkson because of his comments about Meghan Markle. So wind your neck in.