Jack Monroe #523 Everything she does is pointless busywork that solves nothing

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The Greenbelt statement is dumb but the bold bits would make a nice thread title

Jack’s is not the only or most important voice and presence in this critical area of our life together. Far from it.
 
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I get that. Fostering isn't for everyone and some who do suck at it but it's truly the Lards work, I think. To welcome a damaged kid into your home with hopes of giving them stability and safety is a massive undertaking and not for light hearted.

There is nothing at all wrong with being told as a kid that there's those in world who have had it significantly worse than you so for gods sake Sandra get a sense of perspective. Mum said no to you going out at weekend? Oh boo hoo your foster sibling was diddled by a close family member and now they're living somewhere totally new and harmed and trying to figure it all out.

I knew a foster kid at school. Rough kid but with the kind of razor sharp wit that would leave poor school teachers trying to tell him off while not p!ssing themselves laughing over his comments. Very damaged boy but with a heart of gold. Poor sod got sent down for Actual Murder (not manslaughter, he admitted to wanting to kill, hence , the mens rae, the guilty mind, and the actus reus, the guilty act) a few years back and I always respect people who can put themselves in position if caring for someone so damaged and harmed.

I get it must have been hard for Jack having to "share" her parents and I do wonder if the inability to deal with it and a fundamental immaturity to square that mental circle as an adult is what has caused her to be the monumental thunderc*nt she is now.
I think being told you’re lucky is fine in some contexts but if Jack or another child is trying to explain a genuine upset (even minor) then that refrain constantly is just really invalidating, just because other people have it worse doesn’t mean a child is never allowed to be upset.

Plus I was more thinking if she was trying to tell someone how stressful she found the chaos which I have no doubt she did. Sometimes young children (we worked out Jack was 3 when the fostering started IIRC) also don’t have the language to explain the bigger issue so the whine is “Mum wouldn’t let me do *minor thing*” and the adults around them should be receptive to trying to see that’s what they can verbalise of a bigger issue.

Some children are resilient enough it wouldn’t bother them, nothing Jack has said makes me think she was one of them - and I think the adult Jack using her “I’m autistic/ADHD I can’t help it” as a refrain likely stems from her being invalidated and told the foster children couldn’t help it (which was probably true).

It’s a very difficult balance to balance the needs of bio children with foster children and I don’t think her parents managed it, as much as I’m sure they helped countless other children, IMO they failed Jack. Fostering isn’t for every family, sometimes that’s because of the parents but sometimes it’s because of the other children in the home and that’s ok to acknowledge and doesn’t make people bad people:

All of that said, an adult she should have moved on from it, got therapy and learnt to live with it… and the way she describes the foster children as feral as an adult woman is absolutely vile. She seems stuck perpetually in the angry teenage “why isn’t it about me” stage when she’s by her own admission had all the access to support and resources to get help to move on and live a more fulfilling life.
 
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Greenbelt have finally issued a statement about Jack. TL;dr we like Jack, we’ve all made mistakes, we’re getting some actual povs along too and we think this cancels out her cosplay.

Oh duck off Greenbelt.
They may as well have said 'yeah, we know she's a thieving twit but we've already printed the programmes so it's cheaper to keep her on the bill'
mats. Hope they've got extra staff manning the SM accounts to deal with the backlash.
 
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Loving this Jack Cooper-Clarke turn of events.

One of my favourite lines from League of Gentlemen is coming to mind:

‘Poetry is like poverty, but without the “v”…’

Think it was immortalised by the Legs Akimbo community theatre group. Too on-point 😭
I was just thinking this about Legs Akimbo!! The ninny hive mind at work. She's so bleeping cringe. She tries so hard to portray the image of what she thinks people think is cool, that she ends up being the complete opposite.

I can't bring myself to watch or listen to anything she does, the second hand embarrassment is too much.

One particular moment that springs to mind is her earnest, eyes closed piano playing 😭😭😭 I just can't cope with it.

Also, @ah went tell 👏👏 chapeau indeed, excellent choice
 
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Greenbelt have finally issued a statement about Jack. TL;dr we like Jack, we’ve all made mistakes, we’re getting some actual povs along too and we think this cancels out her cosplay.

So they chickened out.
For shame, Greenbelt, for shame.
 
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Have the recently hatched ninnies enjoyed the annual sloppies?
I personally haven't had the time to experience that particular pleasure yet, although I did enjoy Honourable Frau Andy's slopalong of sorts when he was trying to review Grifty Kitchen (thankspaceyou for the screengrabs on here).
 
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Are you me? I think you are me. Deffo my twin sister who had all the linguistic opportunities rather than the poor excuse for a 4 and a half GCSEs I was offered.

Well, is it entirely possible I am you, but to be sure I have devised this maverick little test:

Are you currently sitting in front of a tower fan because nearly all of you is swelteringly hot, except for your feet, which are freezing, so you are wearing a pair of jaunty Greek (Cypriot) pom-pom slippers you bought from a wheelbarrow in Corfu?

If you can answer yes, I am indeed you, and you are me and we are all together. We are the walri.

If not, I'd still like to be your twin sister. We can go to hotels and terrify people.
 
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Jack’s is not the only or most important voice and presence in this critical area of our life together. Far from it."
What does this actually mean? I must be dense. What "critical area of our life together"?
 
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I know a few foster families, I have spent time with the kids, most of them were absolute flipping angels. I'm very fond of two of the recent teenagers & have so much respect for the way they deal with the hand they were dealt with their own families (not always dysfunctional btw illness & death of a parent can lead to kids needing foster care). Not saying that many won't have struggles & they will hopefully do therapy to work through some tit but this feral / disruptive /damaged image is not a complete picture by far. And as far as the impact on Jack goes, family home dynamics can be disrupted in many different ways, divorce, remarriage, step siblings, elders coming to live in the home etc & she can eff all the way off if she thinks her stable privileged upbringing was 'difficult'.
 
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Greenbelt are going to look really bleeping stupid when she doesn’t turn up.
 
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Welcome newbies! Nice to have you on the Monroellercoaster



Disappointed no one has the name IqbalSh1tter yet
 
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I’m not sure it’s quite rivalry but I do think it all stems from the fostering. From her parents descriptions in various articles singing their praises it sounds like it was a particularly chaotic house as they (or certainly big D at least) prided themselves on taking “challenging” children - there are descriptions of being on their third front door and a sink pulled off the wall amongst other things.

From everything Jack has said and given away about herself, this sounds like an environment that genuinely would have been absolute hell for her and it is hard for the bio children in that situation to speak out sometimes because all they tend to get is “But you’re so lucky compared to X, don’t you know what Y has been through, you should have compassion!” which I believe she got and is the cause of the resentment that absolutely shines through whenever she talks about fostering.

Her parents fostering is obviously admirable… but everything they and Jack have said makes me believe it was awful for Jack. None of this justifies what she does now obviously, but I reckon it’s where it’s all rooted.

ETA: and I also believe that apart from the behaviour she did struggle with attachment, even if her description of sharing a bedroom isn’t accurate - look how fast she goes from 0-Marriage with everyone who she shags, clear attachment issues there, I can see her getting attached to certain foster children and then being genuinely heartbroken over and over when they were then moved.
Was with you right up to the last sentence. I don’t believe she’s ever felt a strong emotion for anyone other than herself. That’s not be being nasty, or snippy, that’s genuinely how I see her.
 
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I agree, it’s so strange. Honestly I would be hard pushed to name most of my teachers, let alone what any of them said to me.

Also, surely if teachers have an opinion on the career prospects of students they never share that view with the ACTUAL CHILD?! Surely that type of conversation is just staffroom banter. I’m sure they don’t actually care that much.

Maybe, neither Jenny, Peter, nor Barbara said anything about burgers or her future potential and she’s….. lying.
Meh...I chose separate sciences at GCSE to pursue my dream of being a vet. Head of Sciences told my mum and I at Yr 9 parents' evening that I probably wasn't up to going on to study what I needed to achieve this based on my performance, application and attitude to date.
And gosh was she right! 2 Ds and a C.
Couldn't be arsed, so I did the sensible thing, had a baby (the C was in Biology so....) and dropped out of my A levels (none of which were science related).
Hmmmm makes you think 🤔
 
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