Questions were being asked about what the deal with is Jack when Admiral Rear Foo-Foo's thread was linked in a fb group I'm in the other day too. Similar demographic, possibly some overlap.Word is spreading...another forum where I lurk (CookdnBombd - comedy and stuff) has had a (relatively minuscule, obviously) thread on Jack where earlier in the summer there was a bit of back and forth about the criticism of her.
The upshot was, earlier in the year, most of the posters agreed she was generally somewhere between "ace" and okay, if a bit of a chaotic elevenerifer, with a few dissenters.
Just popped there again and Jack trending on Twitter has led to something of a reappraisal. They're not a hive mind, some still believe the best of her, but the tide has turned. Here are some sample quotes:
The forum isn't massive, but it's long-standing and usually bang on the zeitgeist. Definitely left-leaning, not a whiff of anti-trans (quite the opposite) and generally populated by sharp-minded posters.
- "Anyway, I read this slightly obsessively researched article [Molly] about whether or not Jack Monroe is a scammer and I dunno lads, I'm sort of leaning towards her being a bit of a wrong 'un."
- "Halfway through that medium post and it seems pretty damning."
- [not getting into the wider question of whether Jack is a scammer] "Jack's suggestion that people cancel their energy bill direct debit and set up a standing order for an amount they can afford instead is phenomenally bad advice."
- "[semi-supportive, neutral-ish comment] seemed a bit like she was milking the desperation a bit was the talk of unscrewing lights and stuff."
- "im absolutely not going to grind an axe (there are some horrible people who clearly constantly name search Jack Monroe on twitter to try and defame them, absolutely pathetic beasts), but also at this point I'm not convinced they [Jack] do that much good. their media appearances are appalling, and bootlicking the royal family at this time is not good. you don't need to hurl shit at them, just keep quiet!!! for fucks sake!"
- "Fundamentally though I think there are other people capable of doing what Monroe does, doing it honestly, more efficiently and without the dysfunction and possibly even are doing already just without the minor personality cult."
Hope I've not done a chaos with this, debated whether to name the forum.
Has anyone managed to look into her claims of 'volunteering at foodbanks'?
I have to say it sounds very much like BS to me.
Is that part of her 150 hour week, or in addition to?
I don't dare after my last chaos (fortunately it was shortlived and happened in the early hours so I just about got away with it!Has anyone started doing a new thread yet?
Snagged it in the archive
For me it's not so much the pic per se it's her banal commentary on her 'chubby lil thighs' and drawing attention to her not-fanny etc. I'm embarrassed for her and I'm a grown man.The photo wasn't *that* bad and I do feel it's a bit much to pass every single thing through the lens of how would her 12 year old 's friends find it. I agree she needs to be somewhat mindful re the talk of harming herself and the types of threats she supposedly receives, but not to post a pic in case her son and his friends find it embarrassing seems excessive.
Agree with this, I thought the term 'dead name' implied a person's pre-gender transition name, but that's not relevant to Jack's name change, despite her transition (and ongoing non-binary status as I understand it). Claiming we're 'using her dead name' or 'dead-naming her' implies certain transphobic connotations that I don't think are warranted.I've been a bit nervous to raise this, and agree. To me, it's not Jack's "dead name", it's Jack's former name. I respect the new name and, indeed, "knew" her not before so have no reason to wish to use it anyway
So… 12:23 she mentions Daubney. 8 mins later Martin Daubney retweets AM. Really makes you think.
I'm going to try as I've just been trying to do a summary! Might need help!I don't dare after my last chaos (fortunately it was shortlived and happened in the early hours so I just about got away with it!
She has not volunteered in food bank. The way she publicises her every fart in her alcoholics ANONYMOUS tweets leads me to believe that if she actually did work in foodbanks we would hear a lot more from England's pov saviour Jack monroe @bootstrapcook .I'd like to know where these food banks are considering;
Everyone in Southend can't stand her
She has a very bad reputation with the food banks in her area
She can't drive
She can't even go to an anonymous meeting without posting about it
Eek! Good luck, I think what I'd missed was linking the new thread to the rest of the monroe forum, the guidelines are really good, I was just meant to be asleep when I did itI'm going to try as I've just been trying to do a summary! Might need help!
I always think it’s really interesting the way these participants in the culture wars utterly rely on their adversaries to sustain their respective grifts. I’d literally never heard of Martin Daubney before Jack started bawling all over Twitter about him being mean to her. I’m sure the same might be said of Jack for Martin’s target demographic.all the grifters love a vanity search, don't they!
these tweets are a very rare situation where jack is probably the least cunty person mentioned
has she ever considered her problem is overkill?
Won’t wash. We have the receipts.She wanted to prove her left wing credentials after the roasting yesterday. She’ll probably go after these awful right wingers some more, later. And talk about how the legal case is still with the paralegals or some such nonsense
Oh completely. They must have been dancing a jig when she said she'd sue.I always think it’s really interesting the way these participants in the culture wars utterly rely on their adversaries to sustain their respective grifts. I’d literally never heard of Martin Daubney before Jack started bawling all over Twitter about him being mean to her. I’m sure the same might be said of Jack for Martin’s target demographic.
None of these people actually have any principles, or believe anything they spout. Especially Jack or Martin. They’re just two cheeks of the same outrage machine arse riling up each other’s fans to enrich themselves. It’s depressing.
Shame they jumped to the conclusion we’re all a bunch of sad old harridans. Or whatever the phrase was. They’re not anti-trans but they don’t seem to care for women much.Word is spreading...another forum where I lurk (CookdnBombd - comedy and stuff) has had a (relatively minuscule, obviously) thread on Jack where earlier in the summer there was a bit of back and forth about the criticism of her.
The upshot was, earlier in the year, most of the posters agreed she was generally somewhere between "ace" and okay, if a bit of a chaotic elevenerifer, with a few dissenters.
Just popped there again and Jack trending on Twitter has led to something of a reappraisal. They're not a hive mind, some still believe the best of her, but the tide has turned. Here are some sample quotes:
The forum isn't massive, but it's long-standing and usually bang on the zeitgeist. Definitely left-leaning, not a whiff of anti-trans (quite the opposite) and generally populated by sharp-minded posters.
- "Anyway, I read this slightly obsessively researched article [Molly] about whether or not Jack Monroe is a scammer and I dunno lads, I'm sort of leaning towards her being a bit of a wrong 'un."
- "Halfway through that medium post and it seems pretty damning."
- [not getting into the wider question of whether Jack is a scammer] "Jack's suggestion that people cancel their energy bill direct debit and set up a standing order for an amount they can afford instead is phenomenally bad advice."
- "[semi-supportive, neutral-ish comment] seemed a bit like she was milking the desperation a bit was the talk of unscrewing lights and stuff."
- "im absolutely not going to grind an axe (there are some horrible people who clearly constantly name search Jack Monroe on twitter to try and defame them, absolutely pathetic beasts), but also at this point I'm not convinced they [Jack] do that much good. their media appearances are appalling, and bootlicking the royal family at this time is not good. you don't need to hurl shit at them, just keep quiet!!! for fucks sake!"
- "Fundamentally though I think there are other people capable of doing what Monroe does, doing it honestly, more efficiently and without the dysfunction and possibly even are doing already just without the minor personality cult."
Hope I've not done a chaos with this, debated whether to name the forum.
Oh don't get me wrong , she is excruciatingly embarrassing. I just think mums are allowed to be people too, if that makes sense?Snagged it in the archive
Jack Monroe 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈 on Twitter: "Just spent a lovely evening sit…
archived 15 Sep 2022 02:58:06 UTCarchive.ph
For me it's not so much the pic per se it's her banal commentary on her 'chubby lil thighs' and drawing attention to her not-fanny etc. I'm embarrassed for her and I'm a grown man.
Agree with this, I thought the term 'dead name' implied a person's pre-gender transition name, but that's not relevant to Jack's name change, despite her transition (and ongoing non-binary status as I understand it). Claiming we're 'using her dead name' or 'dead-naming her' implies certain transphobic connotations that I don't think are warranted.
ETA what I'm trying to say is I consider calling it 'dead naming' possibly playing into her weaponisation of her characteristics.
OMG the doubling down on the laryngitis. Jack you're doing this to spite me aren't you?
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