Jack Monroe #364 I used to quite like Jack until I started paying attention

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Onestorytoomany

Onestorytoomany

I can just imagine her shouting out to SB

'Mum its been 4 hours in there' are you done yet?

Her,' jesus son its coming out like lava, give it another hour or two'
* footsteps a the door have LEFT*

* phone pings, new tweet*
 
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Pimpinella

[QUOTE="Mrs Peel, post: 11245846, member: 344441"

"Patreon is not the same thing. I don’t donate from my Patreon, I get subscribers who pay for the content if and when they see fit. That’s called capitalism."

Can't wait to see the responses to those two tweets.
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But he's a socialist and has often moaned about capitalism and now is using it as the mantra for what, frankly, sounds as dodgy as.... he's not Fred from the chippy who donates a few quid..... Jeez thick as s///
 
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Belgian Bun

Belgian Bun

Rekyavikgirl said:
She thinks this is how working class people talk
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I'm from a working class family although I don't really feel working class these days. I mean I don't listen to the Archers but I like browsing the Guardian in my lunch hour. Anyway, my family were pretty poor, both parents did cleaning of various sorts, bit of petty thieving on my dad's side. But we weren't like the working class families I knew at school - I think there are layers within each class stratum. My parents were a bit snobbish, liked books, days out looking at churches, thought playing out was common, etc. Families I knew, who probably weren't any better off than we were, often lived as if they were. A lot of stuff on tick, catalogues, the never-never. (My mum was v snobbish about catalogues. I was just very envious of my mates' new clothes because I had hand me downs from my mum's employers.). They wanted to live like they weren't poor. The point I'm probably very badly making is that poor families don't fetishise the things you have to do to stretch £60 a week (what my dad was supporting the family on in 1980), they just do them and keep quiet about them. And they get the expensive things on tick that make life a bit nicer. No judgment there. Jack is a total fetishiser of poor-practices and has no true understanding of what it's like to have multi-generational familial poverty.
 
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whereforartthoupumble

She's been to Vegas twice? Before the age of 30? Going to Vegas is SO EXPENSIVE which is the reason I haven't gone despite being Vegas-adjacent a number of times. This is mental.
 
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Pimpinella

Spooons said:
Thought this was interesting. People calling out the fetishisation of frugality. It’s like all the daily fail readers who rock up to buy the yellow stickered food & boast about it.
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That is interesting. Personally I get rather fed up of people jumping up and down as they are now on the "thrift" bandwagon. Some of us were brought up that way and have continued...... saving a penny is not the rocket science some people think it is....
 
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Soap a Dope

Soap a Dope

Bell'un said:
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But I absolutely don't understand why these convos go on in public - why would she, if she's a friend who genuinely feels these things about JM being in dire straits, say that on Twitter? Don't these people have WhatsApp? Or phones? #baffled
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Exactly, but JM obviously doesn't keep it private and she's probably not included in celebrity chef WhatsApp group.
She will have gone to Nigella crying her eyes out, Nigella has then seen the blog beg, done 'her bit' and I think/hope it was loaded with a warning shot. Hence the snide. Nigella can't keep it up and she's in a precarious position. I did note she reprimanded, in a way, JMs That Man outburst
 
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Belgian Bun

Belgian Bun

Belgian Bun said:
I'm from a working class family although I don't really feel working class these days. I mean I don't listen to the Archers but I like browsing the Guardian in my lunch hour. Anyway, my family were pretty poor, both parents did cleaning of various sorts, bit of petty thieving on my dad's side. But we weren't like the working class families I knew at school - I think there are layers within each class stratum. My parents were a bit snobbish, liked books, days out looking at churches, thought playing out was common, etc. Families I knew, who probably weren't any better off than we were, often lived as if they were. A lot of stuff on tick, catalogues, the never-never. (My mum was v snobbish about catalogues. I was just very envious of my mates' new clothes because I had hand me downs from my mum's employers.). They wanted to live like they weren't poor. The point I'm probably very badly making is that poor families don't fetishise the things you have to do to stretch £60 a week (what my dad was supporting the family on in 1980), they just do them and keep quiet about them. And they get the expensive things on tick that make life a bit nicer. No judgment there. Jack is a total fetishiser of poor-practices and has no true understanding of what it's like to have multi-generational familial poverty.
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We do really bleeping swear though.
 
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Lazarus

Lazarus

LennyBriscoe said:
I’m maybe being a bit cold but I genuinely don’t think that at 34-years-old, anyone has to step in.

Solely my opinion, but I don’t think Jack is vulnerable. I think she’s scheming and devious and is now panicking because someone has rattled her cage. She is the only one responsible for her actions and if this is her chickens coming home to roost, then she’ll have to deal with it.

I reckon her parents, previous partners, friends have tried to guide her many, many times before and everyone has a breaking point. She talks about people being mean and then complaining when they get the same back - this is EXACTLY what is happening to her, and she can’t handle it. How many times can you say to someone “stay off Twitter” or “you’re the one who perpetuates this, time after time”? I’ve no doubt some people in her life have enabled her but I also think you probably couldn’t get her to do anything she doesn’t want to do.

Someone said last week - apologies, I can’t remember who it was - but it was a genuine question about why her AA sponsor doesn’t do more. I’ve been lucky enough to sponsor and it really is a privilege - but there’s no way I’m responsible for that person and if I offer guidance through the Steps and show them what worked for me, I accept it’s up to them to take it. And if I see them acting in damaging behaviours, then unless it was life or death, I wouldn’t bring it up but they have to see themselves that it’s damaging and want to discuss it.

I hope this doesn’t come across as me having a pop at anyone, that’s not my intention. I just think she’s big enough to manufacture this tit show so she’s big enough to work her way out.
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Lenny, I think this is a brilliant post.
That is all.
 
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Nonah

Nonah

I was poor in my twenties. I’m from a working class background but my parents grafted and saw me through university so when I struggled after graduation the last thing I wanted was to ask them for money. I was properly skint. Awake at 3 in the morning in cold panic skint. And my boyfriend at the time was an addict. I only found out after we broke up and I let our landlord know we were ending our tenancy that he hadn’t paid his share of the rent for months and we were >< this close to being evicted. I’m financially secure now but never take it for granted. Also I worked really bleeping hard to claw my way back to safety. There is residual trauma for sure.
I think this is why I always empathised with Jack but the way she always claimed to be a victim, appropriating the struggles of others long after she was clearly no longer skint was what fucked me off. It’s like she can’t let go of that period of awful struggle and I just don’t understand how she’s still *there*. Let it go Jack. Call your therapist.
 
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moldwarp

whereforartthoupumble said:
She's been to Vegas twice? Before the age of 30? Going to Vegas is SO EXPENSIVE which is the reason I haven't gone despite being Vegas-adjacent a number of times. This is mental.
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I would totally agree with this. It might not seem like a big thing in the scheme of things but I first went abroad when I was 20 (and nearly missed my flight because I didn’t understand that I had to walk to the gate. I thought I had to just wait and someone would come and get me.) Didn’t start going regularly until I was over 30 and earning enough to afford it. I don’t think that’s deprivation, that was the norm for working class people before the age of ultra cheap travel hit in the noughties. NBD. But my point is, I’ve not been out of Europe a hell of a lot, because it’s expensive. Vegas twice before 30 says to me a family with a lot of disposable cash. It does not say a working class family.

Also totally agree with @Belgian Bun that real WC people don’t fetishise being skint and ultra thrifty. They want nice things and will make efforts to get them like everyone else. The only people who fetishise skintness are larpers.
 
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TheDragonWithAFlagon

TheDragonWithAFlagon

Pimpinella said:
Well that's not dodgy at ALL Ralf. I've raised money from events and been involved in other's fundraising and with one exception to do with a funeral it's gone into a separate account. First rule of fundraising transparency - keep it away from your own accounts. Secondly all of those platforms have the ability to donate direct. What an utter plank.....
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Quite literally resting in his account?
 
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quietbatperson

jenny2603 said:
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This squig DARED to question St Jack's latest blog and the hard times it depicts when she had her spare diamonds to sell. The Jack stans have formed the view that they deserve abuse for failing to uncritically believe everything Jack says. Naturally Jack has made no comment to condemn or discourage the abuse because she approves of it or a few of her socks have gone feral.

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TLDR: It's not right but you were asking for it.

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Gullible twit.
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Squigs are all so earnest aren’t they? Are they all that naive? Have they stopped to consider that if Jack was an wonderful and helpful and impactful as squigs perceive them to be, there would be no questioning/mocking etc of them. How can they not see that? 🤯
 
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SpamNugget

SpamNugget

Talking of things Essex...That Man's new show starts next Monday at 8.30 wonder if they'll be any avid viewers in the Thorpe Bay area or lots of howling and gnashing 😁
 
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