Jack Monroe #301 Jack Monroe Cheap and Cheerless

[Cack Conroe]

BIB - or her son. Allegra and Louisa were consenting adults and even if they didn’t consent to the information she shared about them or their private lives they could have done something about it. Her son did not consent. She done this to him. She starved her own child, allowed him to live in a cold damp house with no ceiling lights and no toys and poorly fitting shoes to make a name for herself when her wealthy parents lived round the corner.

I think it’s all lies, I don’t think she truly subjected him to any physical neglect. I hope. Lying about it is bad enough, imagine if she chose to actually do it?

 

[trueblue222]

That’s if she’s actually diagnosed. I do think she’s ADHD but she may be self-diagnosed.

Also, unpopular opinion: I don’t think she’s alcoholic. It’s just another attention seeking larp. I don’t know how that would effect prescribing meds, I guess it would depend if alcoholism is on her medical records at all.

This is the problem. She lies so much you never know when she’s telling the truth.

She’s addicted to Twitter. That’s for sure

 

[colouredlines]

I think OH is real. It's true that Jack took a very long time to get over LJC, but the needy, obviously Louisa-directed posts eventually dried up. She's also no longer pretending to be vegetarian etc. More likely she's found a new victim.

Plus, Jack isn't skilled enough for the very long game; her attention-seeking, needy posts tend to be of the "OMG I'M IN HOSPITAL I COULD DIE" variety. We can see the progression of the relationship - single and depressed in November (dyeing all/a few clothes black), then lots of exciting makeup selfies in December (glamorous look to entice), special date in January complete with cooking poll, lights ON in Feb, and by March we had the first mention of "mother in law". Fast moving for a relationship, but far too slow for Jack if it was made up.

I don't think it's SB's dad, either. No doubt they've got closer since his divorce, but how stupid would the man have to be to get together with a woman who's been lying publically about their son for a decade? I think it's more likely that he's from AA (he doesn't drink, she was posting a LOT about AA while they were getting together).

The anonymity is so she can wrangle a Guardian piece about being a victim of biphobia, evil bullying trolls etc etc.

 

[Nottonightbabe]

I think OH is real. It's true that Jack took a very long time to get over LJC, but the needy, obviously Louisa-directed posts eventually dried up. She's also no longer pretending to be vegetarian etc. More likely she's found a new victim.

Plus, Jack isn't skilled enough for the very long game; her attention-seeking, needy posts tend to be of the "OMG I'M IN HOSPITAL I COULD DIE" variety. We can see the progression of the relationship - single and depressed in November (dyeing all/a few clothes black), then lots of exciting makeup selfies in December (glamorous look to entice), special date in January complete with cooking poll, lights ON in Feb, and by March we had the first mention of "mother in law". Fast moving for a relationship, but far too slow for Jack if it was made up.

I don't think it's SB's dad, either. No doubt they've got closer since his divorce, but how stupid would the man have to be to get together with a woman who's been lying publically about their son for a decade? I think it's more likely that he's from AA (he doesn't drink, she was posting a LOT about AA while they were getting together).

The anonymity is so she can wrangle a Guardian piece about being a victim of biphobia, evil bullying trolls etc etc.

Oh you absolutely know she's going to monetise Harold! Whoever he may be.

 

[jenny2603]

Didn’t she literally crowdfund on her PayPal for presenter training? Where did that money go?

Clearly not to any kind of reputable trainer.

 

[Veronicaaa]

I think it's more likely that he's from AA (he doesn't drink, she was posting a LOT about AA while they were getting together).

I agree with all of your post, just singling this out to remind people about the ridiculous make up lewks she was posting at around the start of the year to go to her meetings in (she also seemed really quite high during that period, in the way you can get just as a new love interest is on the horizon). She's stopped referencing AA so much now, and doesn't seem to be signposting every single time she goes to a meeting - if indeed she still does attend meetings, now that she's bagged someone from there. Absolutely ridiculous (and dangerous) to treat AA as some sort of dating service, and shows just how little she values her own sobriety, and that of others.

 

[LennyBriscoe]

Imagine thinking a love for double denim constitutes a quirky character trait.

Jack and OH leaving The crappy Bungalow to go to Harvester for date night

 

[Shawads]

Spoiler: “diagnosis”

For me, University did a basic screening when I first attended the MH Support Team. ADHD, ASD, SpLDs. Then a full pre screening which they strongly encouraged me to take to my GP and Psych as I scored highly for ADHD and ASD, and they referred (and paid for) an Ed Psych to assess the SpLDS (of which I have quite a few). They explained they do it because a lot of people my age were missed at school due to lack of awareness.

I knew duck all about ADHD and SpLDs, and my only experience of Autism was my cousin.

Anyhoo, at the time, back in 2018, there was no adult ND service in my PCT as they’d scrapped it and were launching a new one. My Psych agreed it was likely I did have it, but he can’t assess as it’s a separate area.

A year and much research later, I’d had enough, and went private. The forms themselves took me 10 weeks to fill in, there’s a lot of them, very thorough, lots of background, had to get my Dad to fill one in, a friend and then I managed to dig up some school reports. The assessment itself lasted 2 hours; I was surprised to be diagnosed with Combined Type ADHD - I thought it would be Inattentive. But hyperactivity in women is very different and more internal.

I spent a good month crying on and off, both relieved and utterly fucked off that I’d spent my teen years onwards being called lazy, no common sense, “How can you get over 10 A*s but you can’t remember to bring your washing down, or make your bed, or wash the pots, why do you just leave cups everywhere, why can’t you use a knife and fork properly, why do you drop things all the time” and that’s putting it nicely, to say that I was repeatedly and constantly verbally abused by various family members for things that I couldn’t bleeping help is putting it mildly.

Medication is life changing. I’ve been on anti depressants/anti anxiety meds since I was 16, tried so many I can’t even name them all, same with therapy, I’ve had meds prescribed off label to try and treat me. And none of it really did much. (Well, barring Diazepam for panic attacks). But now? I can prioritise properly, I can complete tasks, I can do multiple tasks at once in a sensible order (eg load the washing machine, then grab the dry laundry and put it away, put the bins out, swing the hoover round, get wet laundry into dryer).

I get less overwhelmed in loud, busy, bright places like shopping centres.

My grades largely stayed the same - I tended to get 1:1 in coursework/lab reports and 2:2 in exams because my memory recall is appalling however those grades got bumped to a 2:1 once I was on meds which I didn’t expect.

I’m better in social situations. No panic attacks when talking to new people or going into something new, I’m better at socialising in general.

The NHS ND service is running now and I’m on the wait list for ASD - the cost of that privately is eye watering, there is zero treatment at all however it is a protected characteristic unlike ADHD so worth having for when this current tit show is over and I’m able to work.

Anyhoo, I could say a lot more but I won’t ramble more and I’m off to catch up.

So do I, would still need to prove sobriety. Unless she’s lied and omitted that aspect, I’ve no clue how much access they have to NHS records.

I don't have time to fully reply but I have recently started ADHD meds following a recent NHS diagnosis.
although it is very early days I feel much more 'myself' with the drugs and I also feel a lot more patience and compassion for myself knowing that I have a neurodiversity.
As above poster I've spent a lifetime on various drugs to level my mood and hormonal treatment for years, hormone fluctuating left me out of control many many times.
I have other debilitating illness and I feel the ADHD meds also help with that to a degree helping me to function more than I usually would with the soporific effects of the pain drugs.
Helps me to focus better but only when I'm not exhausted.
I believe there is more than ADHD and the psychologist thought some Ld and I'm convinced of some autism, In my immediate and wider family as well as just me, but I think when going with NHS it's a real lottery how much depth they will go into depending on the levels at which people/ kids are 'functioning' .
I am still feeling grief and sadness for the decades of not knowing why I did things I did and how lonely I was ricocheting from one disaster to another.
I regularly called myself a carcrash but had no idea why I couldn't get on top of everything
I am happy to know and wish I'd known sooner and hope I can help my kids to have happier more informed lives
Longer reply than I planned!

 

[Valiofthedolls]

Didn't Jack also say the other day that her and OH wear similar clothing? So do her, Old Harold, and Old Henry go around as this peculiar matching trio? Picturing them sat round that dining table like the bloody Waltons or something.

Spoiler: Jack, OH, Bro of OH

 

[jenny2603]

I predict today's luke warm take will be on this

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That will be very triggering for Jack because it's the exact chant Portillo did at her after he told her to keep her legs shut.

 

[Valiofthedolls]

Let’s avoid going on a sex Jack tangent

Sex Jack, Sex Jack
Please don’t let her come back

Why you puzzle?
Which one Jack nuzzle?

Which be Jack’s lover?
Who OH, who bruvver?

 

[FlirtyThirty]

Sex Jack, Sex Jack
Please don’t let her come back

Why you puzzle?
Which one Jack nuzzle?
Which be Jack’s lover
Who OH, who bruvver?
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This image is going to give me nightmares

 

[jenny2603]

I wonder if OHs brother feared he was on the receiving end of a Pumble attack during the nuzzling.

 

[Cack Conroe]

Do any mendacious ninnies know if Jack’s fake vegan era coincide with any vegan or vegetarian love interests?
It was about 2016-2017 I think.

 

[colouredlines]

Do any mendacious ninnies know if Jack’s fake vegan era coincide with any vegan or vegetarian love interests?
It was about 2016-2017 I think.

She got together with Louisa (vegetarian) in 2017. Her "vegan" period had started in January 2016, but the Louisa relationship may well have led to it being dragged out longer.

Jack was vegan for less than 6 weeks, but was still pretending to be some form of 90% vegan/vegetarian/pescatarian bodybuilder as late as 2021.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Didn't Jack also say the other day that her and OH wear similar clothing? So do her, Old Harold, and Old Henry go around as this peculiar matching trio? Picturing them sat round that dining table like the bloody Waltons or something.

What a grim thought - the three of them in their matching elasticated combat jeans nuzzling and tickling tummies

 

[Captainmouse]

What Jack will never understand is how bad she is on the telly. And this is where her personality is actively working against her. There are courses, tutorials etc. etc. on how to "do" live appearances/filming. But since she already knows everything she can't avail of these resources. And tbh, she not only jittery and unprofessional, but has very little presence or warmth. Jack could learn a LOT from watching THAT MAN or Nadiya... or just about anyone with a successful online cookery show. And don't even get me started on the revolting slop she calls food. Speaking as an ex-poor, single parent who used to go down the market and ask the stallholders for damaged veg for free.

She has taken a course in TV presenting

 

[Smeghead]

Didn't Jack also say the other day that her and OH wear similar clothing? So do her, Old Harold, and Old Henry go around as this peculiar matching trio? Picturing them sat round that dining table like the bloody Waltons or something.

Try and look happy everyone, it’s only fooking dinner

 

[Emmapism]

She has taken a course in TV presenting

Allegedly

 

[LennyBriscoe]

Never not at it.

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Then and now dear heart. Then and now.

ETA @Captainmouse - word for word