Jack Monroe #145 Mamapapa, why is all the food brown?

[Cunderthunt]

The diagnosis for ADHD and ASD is by answering loads and loads of questions. There is no blood test or whatever. Through the NHS you need a GP referral and the process will involve a specialist team of some kind, depending on how it works in your area. An adult patient would mainly tell the professional themselves. Many threads back Jack talked about making her friends and family write down their views about her behaiour or something- I'm sure this would be part of the process.

An educational psychologist employed privately can diagnose both- I didn't know this until I started working outside of the state sector. You could definitely read up on either condition and answer the questions to present as having either condition. A friend (never diagnosed) got ADHD medication from a private clinic in London and did everyting over the phone/ internet. In my job I work with teenager disgnosed by a mixture of psychiatrists and educational psychologists. I am sure most people working in this area are ethical, but in my experience it is very very easy to get a diagnosis if you have money to throw at it.

That's incorrect, educational psychologists are not medical professionals, and are categorically not qualified to diagnose autism or ADHD, or any other condition. What they do is assess a child's learning needs.

The diagnosis procedures for both ADHD and autism are more than just loads of questions. There are set questionnaires (most of which you can't find easily online), but also interviews that are several hours long, plus they look at previous reports and notes, and interview your parent. They would still do this as an adult ideally, as they need to ensure the symptoms where present from childhood. It is helpful to bring in evidence such as school reports or previous psychiatric reports.

They don't ask a patient to take it upon themselves to collect opinions from family and friends, this is something Jack has made up. 99% Classic autism is nonsense. They don't assess autism as a percentage, and classic autism means a person who is non-verbal and learning disabled. They would also not say a hint of ADHD, it would either be diagnosed or not. I think Jack is fabricating the entire thing, and is imagining what the diagnostic procedure is like.

 

[Captainmouse]

mackie a bandwagon has left the station, get out of bed, you may just be able to jump on the back of it.
(piers corbyn and his auschwitz comparison)

 

[TheDragonWithAFlagon]

Unfortunately, it's only when doing #AD for a beauty product or makeup, not for 'Look how young and perky I am/I'm so delicate and fragile, please save me with donations'.

But it's a start.

 

[Chocolate girl]

Is it just me or does she sound so very insincere? I just don’t believe anything she says, not even about her own child.

Maybe I’ve woken up in a bad mood.

She really does.

I cant decide whether shes trying to convince us or trying to convince herself that she enjoys spending every day with SB

 

[colouredlines]

That's incorrect, educational psychologists are not medical professionals, and are categorically not qualified to diagnose autism or ADHD, or any other condition. What they do is assess a child's learning needs.

The diagnosis procedures for both ADHD and autism are more than just loads of questions. There are set questionnaires (most of which you can't find easily online), but also interviews that are several hours long, plus they look at previous reports and notes, and interview your parent. They would still do this as an adult ideally, as they need to ensure the symptoms where present from childhood. It is helpful to bring in evidence such as school reports or previous psychiatric reports.

They don't ask a patient to take it upon themselves to collect opinions from family and friends, this is something Jack has made up. 99% Classic autism is nonsense. They don't assess autism as a percentage, and classic autism means a person who is non-verbal and learning disabled. They would also not say a hint of ADHD, it would either be diagnosed or not. I think Jack is fabricating the entire thing, and is imagining what the diagnostic procedure is like.

Her gender clinic apparently diagnosed her as "the masculine end of androgynous". I think we can safely file that away in the same spot as 99% classic autism and a hint of ADHD.

 

[TheDragonWithAFlagon]

Her gender clinic apparently diagnosed her as "the masculine end of androgynous". I think we can safely file that away in the same spot as 99% classic autism and a hint of ADHD.

Her gender clinic has presumably never met another human being, then. I've met more masculine/androgynous looking wives of Evangelical preachers and members of Opus Dei.

 

[squiffle]

Is it just me or does she sound so very insincere? I just don’t believe anything she says, not even about her own child.

Maybe I’ve woken up in a bad mood.

It’s because she put ‘honestly’ at the front, which makes it sound like she’s not being in the slightest bit honest.

 

[Hollaaa]

Interesting article about the ASA clamping down on misleading filters used by beauty influencers on the BBC website this morning.

Nothing about using a sunbeam filter on black eyes or a brown filter on slop but surely it's only a matter of time.

 

[Cookiecookie]

Is it just me or does she sound so very insincere? I just don’t believe anything she says, not even about her own child.

Maybe I’ve woken up in a bad mood.

It's very sickly sweet, and sounds so fake.

 

[waffle maker]

The adult assessment process consists of two sets of ratings scales, a developmental questionnaire filled in by someone who knew you as a young child, questionnaires filled out by someone who knows you as an adult and interviews with a psychologist. It's a pretty long and intense process.

I know someone who went down the private route as an adult to get the ADHD diagnosis and now pays £120 a month for meds. The NHS don't accept the diagnoses from the private clinics (either ADHD or autism) simply because they are not reliable enough. ADHD meds are very tightly controlled on the NHS.

Yes same- the person I know also pays for medications. The process wasn't as long as that though- possibly some online places arent as thorough....

That's incorrect, educational psychologists are not medical professionals, and are categorically not qualified to diagnose autism or ADHD, or any other condition. What they do is assess a child's learning needs.

The diagnosis procedures for both ADHD and autism are more than just loads of questions. There are set questionnaires (most of which you can't find easily online), but also interviews that are several hours long, plus they look at previous reports and notes, and interview your parent. They would still do this as an adult ideally, as they need to ensure the symptoms where present from childhood. It is helpful to bring in evidence such as school reports or previous psychiatric reports.

They don't ask a patient to take it upon themselves to collect opinions from family and friends, this is something Jack has made up. 99% Classic autism is nonsense. They don't assess autism as a percentage, and classic autism means a person who is non-verbal and learning disabled. They would also not say a hint of ADHD, it would either be diagnosed or not. I think Jack is fabricating the entire thing, and is imagining what the diagnostic procedure is like.

Not going to derail the thread but the last time I had a young person diagnosed by an EP with ASD was last week, and the last time ADHD was today, I'm saying that if you are willing to pay that you can definitely get a diagnosis that is accepted by bodies such as JCQ.

 

[Susieq22]

This amused me. The reply came from her mum!

 

[Into_the_tunnel]

This amused me. The reply came from her mum!

It baffles me that she bothers asking.

We all know she bungs words into sentences with the same care as she does ingredients into curries.

 

[Duckypoo]

It's very sickly sweet, and sounds so fake.

Yup, who on earth describes their time with their child as "so precious"?

It makes me want to vom, I speak as someone who loves the school holidays and extra time with my boys. It's not precious, it's basically parenting.

 

[TitsMcGee]

We used to put tinned mandarins on a pre made sponge flan base and then add Quick Jel !

My mum still makes this for me

 

[Misbehaving]

Yup, who on earth describes their time with their child as "so precious"?

It makes me want to vom, I speak as someone who loves the school holidays and extra time with my boys. It's not precious, it's basically parenting.

Ah but when Jackie does it its special
Is that because she doesn't do it very often?
(be a parent that is!)

 

[RobinsNest]

The diagnosis for ADHD and ASD is by answering loads and loads of questions. There is no blood test or whatever. Through the NHS you need a GP referral and the process will involve a specialist team of some kind, depending on how it works in your area. An adult patient would mainly tell the professional themselves. Many threads back Jack talked about making her friends and family write down their views about her behaiour or something- I'm sure this would be part of the process.

An educational psychologist employed privately can diagnose both- I didn't know this until I started working outside of the state sector. You could definitely read up on either condition and answer the questions to present as having either condition. A friend (never diagnosed) got ADHD medication from a private clinic in London and did everyting over the phone/ internet. In my job I work with teenager disgnosed by a mixture of psychiatrists and educational psychologists. I am sure most people working in this area are ethical, but in my experience it is very very easy to get a diagnosis if you have money to throw at it.

My mum is a teacher at a high school, she teaches special classes to help kids with educational and personal issues catch up and stay on track. She's said that every year, the number of children in her class diagnosed with ADHD goes up. She really struggled to get an autism diagnosis for my brother (even strangers will ask if he's autistic, he's textbook and no, and they were never able to get a proper diagnosis), but most of the kids with ADHD are just generically energetic kids or kids who are a bit forgetful, but they're parents have some money or some doctor friends or harass their doctors endlessly for the label to get what is essentially an excuse for regular child behaviour.

 

[DinosaurSenior]

I rarely drive. I have a licence, and a tiny old car but I only drive my "route" which is mostly left turns. I find it hard to negotiate and judge roundabouts

I don't have ADHD. I'm just a really tit driver.

 

[Into_the_tunnel]

I rarely drive. I have a licence, and a tiny old car but I only drive my "route" which is mostly left turns. I find it hard to negotiate and judge roundabouts

I don't have ADHD. I'm just a really tit driver.

Hard relate.

There is a fb group which I am part of which takes photos of tit parking in my area.

After trips (essential, obvs) out I always check to make sure I haven’t been papped.

 

[Captainmouse]

She still snoring?

 

[Vroo]

Hard relate.

There is a fb group which I am part of which takes photos of tit parking in my area.

After trips (essential, obvs) out I always check to make sure I haven’t been papped.

This sounds like me driving too !