Jack Monroe #135 No measurable outcomes

I’MBUSY! said:

Also, if it is a six-year stack of bills, grow the fuck up and pay them.

Sorry if getting bills for services you have used puts the shits up you, but you can damn well afford them. So pay them.

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I can only imagine the uproar if people didn’t pay her when she billed them!

LennyBriscoe said:

Why has she suddenly stopped being able to spell?? She there’s no “e” at the end of lens... #pedanticlenny

I’ve enjoyed those old blogs so thanks to everyone who’s uncovered those. Very very interesting that she didn’t seem to be claiming the correct benefits (although when she was, she seemed to pin the blame on her LA when they were late/wrong). Pure speculation but I wonder if her parents perhaps looked down their nose at benefit claimants and that’s filtered down. I’ve seen an increase in the amount of people on Facebook lately who are predominantly middle-class saying they don’t see why kids should get FSM when the parents have the latest iPhone etc, so the benefit system clearly doesn’t work blah blah generalised bullshit.

Jack could do so much more good by signposting things like benefits etc as well as foodbanks - sadly people never in this position before are finding they really need this help - but as always, it’s only what benefits her she’s interested in.

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Funny you should say that about FB as I’ve been reading comments in a group this morning. You know the ones - all about the undeserving poor and ‘my mother fed us all in the war on two carrots and a parsnip’. Teach them to make soup. etc. MC retirees completely out of touch with the real world.

Jack plays to their narrative with her £20 slop shops.

I’MBUSY! said:

Nonono, RM! What's the phase I'm looking for? "That ain't it"?

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RM comes across as very canny to me. There's a well known saying 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'. Just a thought!

LennyBriscoe said:

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Our last place had square bloody taps, so we didn't even have the luxury of one these (most grateful for a house with one shower now!) She's full of shit with her three showers, luxury goods, and furniture from skips and puddles.

Catching up again, but your parents not eating a meal with you isn't necessarily a sign of being poor. Some folk just don't eat with their kids. My brother and his wife like to eat super late, so the chicken nugget queen that is my niece eats her tea by herself. Or, like my parents used to sometimes, have a sneaky takeaway once us kids were out the way.

Silver Linings said:

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I regret to inform you I don’t believe he did.

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Source

Unless she is authoring the emails herself, it looks like 'Peter' is reeling her in

#HenryRootLetters

Gentlemensrelish said:

Haha, I'm not saying it's unheard of, I love a comma, just an interesting coincidence

Not gonna lie though, would love it if you were her in disguise. Faking a life as a sheep wrangler to hang out here? 10/10 commitment.

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Lady Whistledown of the Wiltshire Horns

MarmiteExtract said:

Yeah, using a comma before ‘but’ isn’t a strange grammatical quirk or a gotcha moment

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Oh god, it was like 2am, I apologise to all of you and your perfectly normal comma usage. If I would delete it I could. It seemed interesting at the time.

Sideboard Bob said:

I don’t have children or dependants, so your post have given me a new perspective on her attitude towards parenting. I know it shows my ignorance, but I hadn‘t thought of it that way. Although I’ve long thought that she’s anti women too (for reasons its too late to get into now!).
I think her grandiosity is maybe because, as we’ve seen, she actually avoids work as much as possible! So it’s like she’s protesting too much. Either way, like you and @Mel Donte said, her shitty Tory/middle class views are painfully clear

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There’s looooads of articles and think pieces out there on it but this is one of the first google results and tbh I think a really well rounded piece?


There definitely is a snobbishness around SAHMs amongst ~professional women & ive been guilty of it too, I’ve had tons of friends leave amazing roles in media/tech and I thought WHY but it’s only since becoming a mum myself I’ve truly got it? For women the burden of the majority of care giving and domestic work combined with working out the home 5 days a week can far exceed any benefits of work, even if in monetary terms it’s “worth” them going to work? And that’s not adding in discrimination and inflexible work places and all that grief? It’s such a hugely personal decision at the end of it and it’s hard enough trying to do it all without snobby cunts writing shit blog posts tbh!

Sorry mods I know this is naughty off topic, eagerly awaiting a raw egg breakfast off Jack tho??

(Sorry that was actually a ridiculous overreaction and that's the one I'd delete. I'm very tired. But like actually tired, not Dino nap tired. Alone with a 5 month old that's given up on sleeping tired. Sorry for being a dick on our nice thread x)

Gentlemensrelish said:

(Sorry that was actually a ridiculous overreaction and that's the one I'd delete. I'm very tired. But like actually tired, not Dino nap tired. Alone with a 5 month old that's given up on sleeping tired. Sorry for being a dick on our nice thread x)

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Not a dick. x

Besides, I'm here for all the super-sleuthing and conspiracy theories I can get!

Jelly Bean said:

'The BBC's brilliant Daily Kitchen Live'

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I saw this and wondered if the article was taking the mick but having reread, it isn’t. Very confusing.

I can’t read that Guardian piece. It’ll give me indigestion.

She coat-tailed RM and MR’s campaign to big-up her own reputation and ultimately her income. Yet she comes out as the heroine of the work by doing fuck all. A triumph of style (via Twitter screeching) over substance.

@Gentlemensrelish Oh no I was only saying it before any pitchforks started up. You weren’t being a dick. Hope you and the baby both get dino naps in today!

I’MBUSY! said:

And such incredible good fortune that a great deal of her other belongings are apparently gifts.

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Especially because you don't pay tax on reselling gifts or items you bought for personal use, but you do if you bought them for or through a business.

Harrybosch said:

Oh Zoe. Minimal research would have produced a different piece.

Jack Monroe on food poverty and fury: 'I just wake up, look at the news, and get angry' | Food poverty | The Guardian

The cook and campaigner barely slept last week as the row raged over inadequate food parcels for kids. She discusses austerity, cronyism and why she’ll never stop fighting<br>

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“She is the living embodiment of the suffering that fiscal tightening causes, and also the most admirable person you will ever meet. She reminds me of Jack-a-Roe, the folksong heroine – swashbuckling, brave, sensitive, intelligent, kind. Life’s tough but she’s tougher. No government can kill the spirit, but it’s chastening to think how hard they try.”

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The article claims she's been trying to make a noise about this since March.

I know mass Tweet deleting sprees make it hard to confirm this, so here's a quick overview of what Jack's been doing since March:

* having a temper tantrum about Jamie Oliver
* grating corned beef on a car crash of a TV show
* remodelling her shed
* doing a series of hideously embarrassing Instagram lives about mayonnaise
* giving herself ill-advised haircuts
* appropriating the BLM movement
* torturing a disabled kitten
* going to Edinburgh to eat at Five Guys the second Scotland opened the border
* relaxing in a hammock
* accusing David Walliams of being a racist cokehead
* suffering from ouchy mouth
* suffering from severe burnout
* facetuning herself into a 12-year-old
* writing about how great the Queen is in the Express
* having the worst covid ever, or not

and - mostly:

* complaining CONSTANTLY about how poor she is, begging for patreons, and pretending she lives on 20£ a week's worth of food for 2 - 3 people, despite her recipes routinely featuring other ingredients that weren't in het shopping

Here's what she did about hungry children:

* started following Marcus Rashford on Twitter AFTER his campaign was a success, having never mentioned it or him before
* interviewed Marcus Rashford for GQ, making it clear she was meeting him for the first time
* lied about working with Marcus Rashford, repeatedly

Well done Guardian.

MarmiteExtract said:

Oh no I was only saying it before any pitchforks started up. You weren’t being a dick. Hope you and the baby both get dino naps in today!

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I know, I'm an absolute melt. Sorry

Oh god NOW I'M EMBARASSED I'VE CAUSED MINOR THREAD DRAMA I WILL WRITE ALL IN CAPITALS TO COVER MY SHAME.

Ahem, anyway, I'll say something on topic, shall I? I'm not reading that Guardian article. Absolutely not. She's like the sad faced local paper pictures but somehow in a national paper. It makes no sense.

Apparently she is sign posting people to where they can get help, must have missed those posts as I only spotted the ranting angry ones!

Secondly she says her family where a 'shove up and help others' type.
Weird then that they didn't help her when she was struggling.

I mentioned on the other thread the utter echo chamber of twitter and how most people don't seem to look even slightly beyond what claims are being made.

But to read that article this morning is horrific. They believe every word. Where is the journalistic integrity, the research, the questioning? It reads like an article on a teenage fan site for a popular artist.

The current narrative of good and bad people with pithy sound bites representing each side eg 'I called him a liar', is really distracting from any depth of conversation or understanding of complexities around issues.

It's interesting what she blogs as examples of hardship in her twenties. I had my children in my mid twenties and live with their father (my now husband). I didn't work until they both started school and he earned 20k pa. So we were not well off at all.
- We rented until our early thirties (when I rejoined the workforce)
- We went to our parent's at Christmas until we bought a home too
- We had secondhand furniture from family, friends, and free cycle
- If we felt flush we'd buy from IKEA.
- I knitted things like blankets and cushions using poundland wool
- My sons shared a bedroom in a two bed ex council house that we rented

Now this did not feel like a massive hardship. It felt fairly normal. It also made it very easy to save a deposit when I started working.

Jack almost describes a life I'd have to give up today in those blogs. I'm in my late thirties and well off.

Also did she describe plugging in a TV aerial as though it was the height of aerospace engineering??? Jesus wept.

sioc said:

Also, that recipe is basically vegan sausages in a korma sauce without the turmeric

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Trouble is people in the bubble this could cooked for might like the sausages but not the slop. And that means WASTE which is inexcusable when people on the food supply chain are putting their lives at risk. So give the slop recipes a rest Jack and you Linda find a better partner