Long time reader here and listener of the podcast, first time poster. My theory is that it was less of a dramatic showdown and more a build up of many small events. I started watching back one of the lives recently, I think from January, and it was when L’s WiFi wasn’t working properly. It happened for a couple of times from what I remember and they had to use phones as hotspots after getting off to a shaky start each time with connections not working for the steam. I’d think that is a good example of J putting lots of effort in and L just not taking responsibility and understanding that sorting out the issue should have been a priority and not ‘whoops still not working’. It must have been draining for J knowing that the pair work great and have built and grown their brand together, and when they were actually doing the recording and lives they are a duo but (it seems anyway) when it came to all the prep work - organising, technical, general admin which no one finds fun but recognise it’s necessary- the workload wasn’t balanced fairly. L is now finding it tough having to do all that work now herself and structure the podcast. J was excellent at guiding conversation and knowing when they should move onto next topic. L could connect with other solo podcasters and find out how they manage it, especially if they know discipline isn’t a strong point. Getting a producer in maybe to help shape it, definitely a professional who isn’t not personally involved in the situation and isn’t just a ‘yes man’. Maybe she was meeting DaveMcSavage for advice as he is very successful. Hope the galz both have success, they are each talented in their own right and obviously people are interested in their next moves! It may seem like everyone is picking a side but at the end of the day they got a big following together so I think the hate will pass and is just temporary for love of the drama.